Missionary's Pile of Shit

[Smellyoldgit]

Once again we are plagued with a brain dead nonsensical pillock - polluting this place with his drivel.

In the spirit of not banning, he/she/it will not be allowed to start any new threads - and his rambling shite will be contained for amusement in this single thread of excrement.

I'm sure eva, Chris & the Prof will join me in this kindly act of crap control.

[Kate]

http://www.ghchealth.com/images/oxypowder/pooper-scooper.jpg

[Choobus]

:lol:

[Philboid Studge]

In fairness to the shitlord-in-waiting, I think you should let him to continue his fecal flow in threads he's already created. Sort of a grandfathered-in shit clause, as it were.

[Smellyoldgit]

His existing shit will be left un-scooped.

[calpurnpiso]

Yup, his pungent Christ-psychotic fragrance exciting only canines since god is dog. :lol:

[dogpet]

Yup, his pungent Christ-psychotic fragrance exciting only canines since god is dog. :lol:

Guilty :(

[Eva]

:rock:

[Missionary]

I would describe myself as an existentialist. I believe that I am the sole creator of my purpose and meaning; and that feeling gives me infinitely more self-gratitude than any sort of theism in servitude.


You're expositing atheist existentialism which means you reject evolution since you 'believe' you control purpose and meaning while the Theory of Evolution clearly states otherwise. You're nothing more than a gene replicating organism struggling to survive extinction. That alone is your genetically programed purpose and meaning...evolutionarily speaking of course. Your "self-gratitude" is an emotional illusion.

You're also defining knowledge as A posteriori which implies truth does not exist apart from your experience or knowledge. It also builds upon the assumption that truth, and knowledge of truth, can only be acquired or attained through a limited set of tools or physical human senses.

It's beyond plausible that physical laws and universal principles exist that we have yet to discover or we may never uncover. In fact, it's highly likely that there are forces, laws, and principles that are undetectable by human senses or tools we invent. They may exist in the form of unexplainable phenomena or behaviors that hypothesis, math, and models fail to explain consistently.

So, to lock oneself into a position of self-determination and assumption in regards to knowledge of truth is to deny and limit scientific reason and logic in regards to cause.

Our tool set may not be able to determine cause.

[a different tim]

You're expositing atheist existentialism which means you reject evolution since you 'believe' you control purpose and meaning while the Theory of Evolution clearly states otherwise. You're nothing more than a gene replicating organism struggling to survive extinction. That alone is your genetically programed purpose and meaning...evolutionarily speaking of course. Your "self-gratitude" is an emotional illusion.

You're also defining knowledge as A posteriori which implies truth does not exist apart from your experience or knowledge. It also builds upon the assumption that truth, and knowledge of truth, can only be acquired or attained through a limited set of tools or physical human senses.

It's beyond plausible that physical laws and universal principles exist that we have yet to discover or we may never uncover. In fact, it's highly likely that there are forces, laws, and principles that are undetectable by human senses or tools we invent. They may exist in the form of unexplainable phenomena or behaviors that hypothesis, math, and models fail to explain consistently.

So, to lock oneself into a position of self-determination and assumption in regards to knowledge of truth is to deny and limit scientific reason and logic in regards to cause.

Our tool set may not be able to determine cause.

Oh, piss off. This is a proper discussion for grown ups.

[Missionary]

http://www.maclaurin.org/professors.detail.php?id=4

"Another example of a designed universe is the values of the physical constants. Note the tremendous range of these constants. For example, the constant which describes the forces in the atomic nucleus is tiny, 6.69x10^(-39)kg^3/m^3/s, yet it is critical to do the largest of things. If it were only 2% larger the hydrogen atom would not be stable, the stars would not form and the universe would have collapsed long ago. If it were just 5% smaller deuterium would be unstable and the universe would still be an expanding cloud with no stars"

[Irreligious]

So, basically, this guy, Christopher Macosko, was stabbed in the back by his best friend (which must have been a hideous experience) and was, thus, driven to religion for solace. As a result, he now sees God in the patterns of the universe and that's supposed to be proof that the universe was designed?

Try again, Missionary.

[anthonyjfuchs]

I did so enjoy dismantling this flawed argument when I was in third grade.

If things were even minutely different, then life would not be possible?

Obviously. Life is possible because things are the way they are. If things were different, either there would be no life or life would be vastly different. Life is not a required aspect of the universe, and life is not required to be as it is.

Life did not have to happen. A universe without life is not an argument for creation.

[antix]

Mish, I thought you were of the potision that science was nothing more than a bunch of educated guesses with no evidence to support the claims? Now you're postulating "scientific fact" because the scientist invokes god?

As AJF pointed out, the universe and its contents have properties. Life happened to arrive because those various properties allowed for it. If the properties did not allow for it, we simply would not be here discussing it. We are simply a product of the universe. Not the reason for the universe.

And to think, theists are often the ones who accuse atheists of being elitists.

[DrunkMonkey]

A Christian study center serving the
University of Minnesota community
Bringing God into the marketplace of ideas by
communicating the Christian worldview
with its transforming potential.Yeah, the MacLaurin Institute sounds completely unbiased.

Things are what they are. You can't calculate a probability (as you insinuate).

Wait, wasn't this fucker banned from starting new threads? (http://ravingatheists.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14642) BAN HIM!

In the spirit of not banning, he/she/it will not be allowed to start any new threads - and his rambling shite will be contained for amusement in this single thread of excrement.

[ILOVEJESUS]

actually there could well be life with a little fluctuation to our current conditions, so this god fellow had options. not many mind. this argument however that this is the only condition for life is flawed because WE CANT PROVE THAT THERE ARENT A GAZZILLION OTHER WAYS FOR LIFE TO DEVELOPE OUTSIDE OF OUR OWN EXPERINCE OF WHAT LIFE IS. the earth could support life a little further out and a little closer to the sun. this is just one example of how things did not have to be exactly as they are for life to develop.

[Missionary]

Once again we are plagued with a brain dead nonsensical pillock - polluting this place with his drivel.

In the spirit of not banning, he/she/it will not be allowed to start any new threads - and his rambling shite will be contained for amusement in this single thread of excrement.

I'm sure eva, Chris & the Prof will join me in this kindly act of crap control.

Well, if there's one thing atheists abhor it's free speech. I suppose that's why whenever they're in control of anything they shout down, ridicule, then suppress any views that don't fit their religious beliefs. Every atheist government eventually becomes a communist totalitarian dictatorship.

Then the banning and extermination begins. They call it a "cultural revolution" ya know. What an Enlightenment indeed.

It's fear really. And denial.

[anthonyjfuchs]

Well, if there's one thing atheists abhor it's free speech.
Your freedom of speech has not been impeded.

You are free to spread whatever baseless nonsense it is that gets you hard, and you have exercised that right.

The baseless nonsense you propagate is merely being pointed out for the inane gibberish that it is.

Your exercise of free speech is in no way hindered by our equal exercise of free speech.

I suppose that's why whenever they're in control of anything they shout down, ridicule, then suppress any views...
Have you been banned?

Has your ability to spread your baseless nonsense been in any way impeded?

Then your freedom of speechi s intact.

...that don't fit their religious beliefs.


[QOTE]Every atheist government eventually becomes a communist totalitarian dictatorship.[/QUOTE]
Specify one of these allegedly "atheist government[s]," or retract your slanderous accusations.

Then the banning and extermination begins.
Have you been banned?

Would we not have been banned by a Christian forum after one or two posts?

Have you not been extended significantly more tolerance than we would be shown in a forum run by your brethren?

It's fear really.
Christians have committed more murders than any other religion in history.

Christians should be feared. They are a violent war-mongering people by-and-large.

And denial.
Denying your absurd claims is the only rational response when you refuse to present evidence to support your assertions.

[Philboid Studge]

Well, if there's one thing atheists abhor it's free speech. I suppose that's why whenever they're in control of anything they shout down, ridicule, then suppress any views that don't fit their religious beliefs. Every atheist government eventually becomes a communist totalitarian dictatorship.

Then the banning and extermination begins. They call it a "cultural revolution" ya know. What an Enlightenment indeed.

It's fear really. And denial.

Shitlord, did you think this was Speakers' Corner in Hyde Park? You have no right to free speech in here, you have the privilege, which is given to you (and staunchly defended by some of us). Naturally you abuse the privilege.

"Extermination." That's funny. Roll on the floor, crap my drawers funny. Does every Christian just pray for the chance to play the persecution card? What, are you envious of the mileage Jews get out of it? At least in their case it's real.

Well maybe staunchly defended is overstating it, but still. A simple 'thank you' would have been nice.

[anthonyjfuchs]

"Extermination." ... Does every Christian just pray for the chance to play the persecution card?

http://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2008/03_w10/8711/oppressedkv6.gif

When was the last "extermination" of christers? The Roman Colosseum?

And don't they get giddy with self-righteousness when the topic of martyrdom comes up? Doesn't it just feed their "no one would die for a lie" delusion?

[Kate]

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[psychodiva]

Well, if there's one thing atheists abhor it's free speech. I suppose that's why whenever they're in control of anything they shout down, ridicule, then suppress any views that don't fit their religious beliefs. Every atheist government eventually becomes a communist totalitarian dictatorship.

Then the banning and extermination begins. They call it a "cultural revolution" ya know. What an Enlightenment indeed.

It's fear really. And denial.

but no suprise? we have to have suprise with fear!

and ruthless efficiency of course

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