Proving God

[MySiddhi]

I am seeking to simplify my proof of God to a level where anyone with a basic college education should be able to at least understand the concepts used (though with some effort on their part).

The only way I know how to do this is to get as many people to peer review or challenge my proof as possible; Especially those who have an emotional investment to be against it (such as atheists).

I am a Christian and I have been claiming that God could be proved for years... but I was ignorant of how to do it. Through discussions with atheists and reading Spinoza's Ethics and Christopher Langan's CTMU I learned propositional calculus, lots of physics, and finally did end up creating a proof that is more geometrically concise than Spinoza's and founded more on logical tautologies and with more empirical verification than Langan's.

[Eva]

have you posted your theories in other forums, sid? many times?
what reactions have you received?

[Livingstrong]

I am seeking to simplify my proof of God to a level where anyone with a basic college education should be able to at least understand the concepts used (though with some effort on their part).

The only way I know how to do this is to get as many people to peer review or challenge my proof as possible; Especially those who have an emotional investment to be against it (such as atheists).

I am a Christian and I have been claiming that God could be proved for years... but I was ignorant of how to do it. Through discussions with atheists and reading Spinoza's Ethics and Christopher Langan's CTMU I learned propositional calculus, lots of physics, and finally did end up creating a proof that is more geometrically concise than Spinoza's and founded more on logical tautologies and with more empirical verification than Langan's.

Oh wow! DEJA VU!

http://ravingatheists.com/forum/showpost.php?p=510089&postcount=8

Copying and pasting in the same forum?

Baaaaad boy/girl!

[ghoulslime]

I am seeking to simplify my proof of God to a level where anyone with a basic college education should be able to at least understand the concepts used (though with some effort on their part).

The only way I know how to do this is to get as many people to peer review or challenge my proof as possible; Especially those who have an emotional investment to be against it (such as atheists).

I am a Christian and I have been claiming that God could be proved for years... but I was ignorant of how to do it. Through discussions with atheists and reading Spinoza's Ethics and Christopher Langan's CTMU I learned propositional calculus, lots of physics, and finally did end up creating a proof that is more geometrically concise than Spinoza's and founded more on logical tautologies and with more empirical verification than Langan's.

Your "proof" is utterly laughable. Why did you make a seperate thread for it? Did you feel that you would have a better chance at passing your stupidity unnoticed by splitting our attention between multiple threads.

You are a complete dunce.

[Barney]

Hi there.
I would simply get down to the basics with your audience.

Tell them that an eternally present self creating magical force created the universe for his last creation, mankind in six days 6000 years ago. After messing it up he in loving mercy and justness wiped everything on earth for some unknown misdemeanour that it had decided on as pennence for him creating them with free will.All except one family and ten million pairs of animals which he prewarned to build a 300 foot long wooden ship carrying 60 million tons of food and 5 million tons of poo. He floated them around for over a month, they got off and the 600 year old man chased the playpuses and snowy owls around the deserts killing millions of them.
Time passed by and he chose a small tribe to be his very best mates, and to be their personal god.
He sent a angel being with flappy wings that served no purpose to tell one of them to kill their son, then changed his mind at the last second.

He set fire to a bush in the red hot desert and told another geezer to tell the leader of the nation they were slaves in to let them free to worship in the desert for 3 days, but mindcontrolled the leader not to do it, in order to punish the leaders whole nation.
After much repertition culminating in wiping out tens of thousands of babies, the loving merciful force guided half a million people into a desert where they left no trace after 40 years of occupation. He fed them with sky-food and when they fancied a change of diet, he dropped 150 trillion quails literally on top of them till they vomited and died of plauge.
In loving tenderness, he repeatedly slaughtered them for things like picking up sticks on sunday and other wicked crimes, so to keep them in order he made a set of laws that were sane and just. Like stoning kids and killing doves for menstruating.
Eventually, he led the half million into someone elese land and told them to destroy every thing that breathed, despite some military setbacks they managed it.
Setteling down to a torrent of rape and plunder, they chop off their forsekins to please him on his orders.
He sent men to talk to the people , wise level headed men like bigamists, rapists , inscestuous murderers, genocidal despots and people who asked him to kill dozens of kids for laughing at bald heads.

After his rage subsides he decides to save the jews. He impregnates a farmgirl who gives birth to a hybrid man-god who is him and human, He kills a kid and makes some living clay birds, all good fun. At 27 years old he gets serious and changes water into booze and starts ressing people like a level 70 preist in world of warcraft. A angel who went rogue tells him to do some tricks but he cant, then he starts mass preaching telling people to worship him, or he will burn them after they die , forever.
Some jews get sick of him, because he preplanned that he would kill himself to stop him from killing them, and the occupying wetern army had him executed killing him off. Loads of zombies jumped out of the ground and ran about, three days later he comes back as a palpable ghost who everyone and nobody sees and does some more tricks.
He says he's sodding off for seventy years and whooshes into the sky. He dosnt return again except every sunday, when he jumps into crackers and booze for a bit, but jumps out before he can be crapped out.
To tell people about this one hundred years after he died, he got a handful of people to tell conflicting stories about it. If you talk to him in your head he might help you on earth, and mayby he wont. It's up to which side of the bed he rolls out of.

All you have to do is tell people this story, and the sheer viability of it will prove it to them in the face of no evidence whatsoever.

[antix]

Barney, that was a bloody beautiful read. Worthy of a place in the estemed halls of the quotes thread.

[Barney]

I typed it pissed. :P

[Eva]

seconded.

[ghoulslime]

seconded.

Thirded!

Now put your hands in the air, and let's party! :rock:

[Pablobee]

Hi there.
I would simply get down to the basics with your audience.

Tell them that an eternally present self creating magical force created the universe for his last creation, mankind in six days 6000 years ago. After messing it up he in loving mercy and justness wiped everything on earth for some unknown misdemeanour that it had decided on as pennence for him creating them with free will.All except one family and ten million pairs of animals which he prewarned to build a 300 foot long wooden ship carrying 60 million tons of food and 5 million tons of poo. He floated them around for over a month, they got off and the 600 year old man chased the playpuses and snowy owls around the deserts killing millions of them.
Time passed by and he chose a small tribe to be his very best mates, and to be their personal god.
He sent a angel being with flappy wings that served no purpose to tell one of them to kill their son, then changed his mind at the last second.

He set fire to a bush in the red hot desert and told another geezer to tell the leader of the nation they were slaves in to let them free to worship in the desert for 3 days, but mindcontrolled the leader not to do it, in order to punish the leaders whole nation.
After much repertition culminating in wiping out tens of thousands of babies, the loving merciful force guided half a million people into a desert where they left no trace after 40 years of occupation. He fed them with sky-food and when they fancied a change of diet, he dropped 150 trillion quails literally on top of them till they vomited and died of plauge.
In loving tenderness, he repeatedly slaughtered them for things like picking up sticks on sunday and other wicked crimes, so to keep them in order he made a set of laws that were sane and just. Like stoning kids and killing doves for menstruating.
Eventually, he led the half million into someone elese land and told them to destroy every thing that breathed, despite some military setbacks they managed it.
Setteling down to a torrent of rape and plunder, they chop off their forsekins to please him on his orders.
He sent men to talk to the people , wise level headed men like bigamists, rapists , inscestuous murderers, genocidal despots and people who asked him to kill dozens of kids for laughing at bald heads.

After his rage subsides he decides to save the jews. He impregnates a farmgirl who gives birth to a hybrid man-god who is him and human, He kills a kid and makes some living clay birds, all good fun. At 27 years old he gets serious and changes water into booze and starts ressing people like a level 70 preist in world of warcraft. A angel who went rogue tells him to do some tricks but he cant, then he starts mass preaching telling people to worship him, or he will burn them after they die , forever.
Some jews get sick of him, because he preplanned that he would kill himself to stop him from killing them, and the occupying wetern army had him executed killing him off. Loads of zombies jumped out of the ground and ran about, three days later he comes back as a palpable ghost who everyone and nobody sees and does some more tricks.
He says he's sodding off for seventy years and whooshes into the sky. He dosnt return again except every sunday, when he jumps into crackers and booze for a bit, but jumps out before he can be crapped out.
To tell people about this one hundred years after he died, he got a handful of people to tell conflicting stories about it. If you talk to him in your head he might help you on earth, and mayby he wont. It's up to which side of the bed he rolls out of.

All you have to do is tell people this story, and the sheer viability of it will prove it to them in the face of no evidence whatsoever.

Complete ignorance of biblical principles. Also, a total lack of spiritual knowledge. An arrogant, irrational, illogical statement. And comical, I must admit.:rolleyes:

[psychodiva]

Complete ignorance of biblical principles. Also, a total lack of spiritual knowledge. An arrogant, irrational, illogical statement. And comical, I must admit.:rolleyes:

actually it sums up the 'story' quite nicely- and WTF? is a 'biblical principle'? is that like saying its true cos god told me?

[Choobus]

A biblical principle is something that only makes sense if you have your head up your arse. (Some will insist that it only makes sense in the context of religious faith, but that is essentially the same thing). Thus, a loving god turning you into a pillar of salt is, apart from just plain weird, perfectly normal from the head-in-arse- perspective. A man who enjoys wanking but won't repent will go to hell, but a child molester and murderer who is really sorry can go to heaven. Makes sense right? Only from the biblical point of view.

Other things that only make sense to godidiots:

Zombie crackers
virgin birth
Satan
Benny Hinn
God hates fags
Abstinence plans
Intelligent design
Talking snakes

[psychodiva]

thank you :)

that makes sense :vomit:

[Philboid Studge]

Also, a total lack of spiritual knowledge.

Lacking spiritual knowledge is a bit like not having any Monopoly money.

[Irreligious]

Not to mention that Pablobee, himself, doesn't know the first thing about alleged spirits, since no one has established that such a thing exists. Parroting other people's unfounded beliefs and, perhaps, embellishing on them, does not constitute actual acknowledge of the, as yet, unconfirmed.