Our Soul

[dd1989]

Ok maybe we do all rot in the ground, our physical being decomposes to nothing. But what happens to memories, our personality and the thoughts within us.

[Schmidty622]

They die with the brain. The brain holds those things and when it dies they die. Its like pulling the plug on a computer. You cant very well play on the computer when there is not any power and you can not think when your brain is dead.

[dd1989]

yeh but when u pull the plug on a computer the memory still remains, just inactive until you turn it on again

[Schmidty622]

So are you suggesting reincarnation?

Or maybe we wake from the dead and become Zombies

[dd1989]

no im just wondering how you destroy some ones personality and such like

[solidsquid]

The brain dies, all that goes with it.

[Cynical]

Your personality, your memories in essence you are your brain, which is a material thing. When the body dies the brain cells die as do your memories, personality... everything about you no longer exist. It is very simple, there is no soul, just a body.

[Lurker]

interesting... (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/06/28/tech/main298885.shtml)

[Tenspace]

yeh but when u pull the plug on a computer the memory still remains, just inactive until you turn it on again
Bad analogy. Only flash-type memories retain data without power. The megabytes of memory in your PC are useless without electricity, just like the brain.

The brain is an organic system, which uses chemicals and electricty to function. You turn it off (death), the tissure rots, the chemicals cease to release, no more electrical impulses.

If we had the technology to map out every neuron's connection (there are trillions, maybe we could recreate certain memories based on their physical structure. But there is much more to it than that.

Tenspace

[Little Earth Stamper]

Well, your brain requires a constant supply of oxygen to hold onto it's shape; It's not like a computer where you can cut off power for a while with little or no harm to the internal structure.

The sum of your memories and personality goes wherever the hell any other information goes when you destroy it; It's the same a burning a book or smashing a computer with a sledgehammer.

[Tenspace]

interesting... (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/06/28/tech/main298885.shtml)
Very. I'll have to read up on the citations. Have you checked the sources? CalTech is pretty reputable.

Ten

[Hobbit]

yeh but when u pull the plug on a computer the memory still remains, just inactive until you turn it on again
I could be said that our "memories" are inactive in our brains for awile after we die, concidering that memory is just the formations between different neurons, but after awile the brain breaks down and all thats left is entirly meaningless dust. Think of it this way. If you unplug a computer the memory is still there, but if trow the computer into a tank of hydrochloric acid the parts that make it possible to hold memory are destroyed.

[God, my arse]

Memories are electrical impulses and chemical signatures if they break down so dose the memory so as long as they stay then so does the memory.

[BackupDrive]

Hey, ....In the Bible it says, God knew us even before we were in womb. Were we electrical then?? And in the Bible, it says God knows everything we do...So....if this is true, then if our Brain is electrical and our brain is like a computer..why can't God have a backup drive for our electrical impulses while we are operating....(While we are alive) and all the electrical Soul..Us..our memory, is backed up while we are alive on Earth, and is recovered when we pass on???????????????????? Computer Wizzes, atheists.. what ya think out there????? Maybe there is a creator of our great designed bodies, etc and existence, after all??????????

[ChiefOfAss]

The electrical impulses you are referring to are not like a computer's. Our brains are not binary. I'm not an expert about the latest insights and discoveries about way our brains work. But, I can tell you for sure that computers are much less complicated.

Binary code is used because we haven't figured out a better way to transmit information electrically than in a series of off's and on's. I don't want to drive down memory lane again, so... lemme just put it this way: Computers as they are designed today will only have the discreet number of variations in amplitude that we can assign to them. That probably didn't clear things up.

Ok, computers can't feel. Our brains are not only the sum of our memories, but they are what ever we felt about them too. It's not just ones and zero's up there, kid. So, I doubt you would back up your head to a DVD.

[ghoulslime]

interesting... (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/06/28/tech/main298885.shtml)
Very interesting, but probably just wishful thinking.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/keith_augustine/HNDEs.shtml

[ghoulslime]

The majority of near-death researchers clearly interpret NDEs as evidence for survival of bodily death. Because many people would like to know that there is an afterlife rather than simply take the notion on faith, it not surprising that 'near-death studies' tends to attract researchers who already believe that NDEs provide evidence for survival. I think it is rather obvious that most near-death researchers have entered the field in order to (1) bolster their belief in survival after death and (2) find out what exactly is going to happen to them when they die. Thus it is hardly a revelation that most of the researchers investigating the phenomenon are confident that NDEs point toward the reality of survival of bodily death.

[Choobus]

no im just wondering how you destroy some ones personality and such like
Marry them

[HMS Beagle]

"...evidence suggests that consciousness may continue after the brain has stopped functioning and a patient is clinically dead..."
The fundamental problem with this interesting research is that none of the 63 subjects actually died. They were deemed clinically dead for a while, but now they are alive and talking to doctors at Southampton General Hospital. I have little problem believing that their neurons danced electrically for a while before fully decaying, and that such activity could produce "thought." But none of the vaguely dreamlike reported thoughts suggest that the consciousness actually left the vicinity of the body. And that is truly my idea of hell. A perpetual state of semiconsciousness trapped near your own putrefying body.
But hey, if it's true, and if we can eventually communicate with the thoughtful dead, I say let's disinter Poe. I'd want to hear how it felt to watch his corpse actually became a cold cut for the Conqueror Worm.

[solidsquid]

If I remember correctly the major data was reports after the fact (possibly months, I don't recall exactly). Plenty of time to mull it over and have confabulation take over.

[BackupDrive]

Of Coarse our brains are not binary. But because you belive you cannot backup any other electrical impluses does not mean that it is not impossible to do so. Our technolgy-mans at this point has been increasing to even to the point of adding smell to email. Because you do not have the equipment in front of you now, today, doesnt mean that it doesnt exist out there. What about technology with silent films in their day and time. I'm sure they thought that adding sound and color was impossible. Sure seems like some of the notations here, that most people appear to be short sighted. We only use a small part of our brain..there is endless possibilities and technologies yet to be discovered by man. How can you say you know for sure as you state that backing up memories, feelings, smells, thought, etc.. is IMPOSSIBLE??? Ever heard someone say a car fell on a man, and another, miraculously picked up the car off the injured man..that was physically impossible.. Maybe our creator sent that extra strenghth (electrically) to the man that lifted the car off the injured man.. HMMM... if electrical impulses can be downloaded..(or any other yet discovered memories..etc...then why could it not be possible to upload your personal data to a backup drive?? The Bible says our Creator will give us new bodies when we pass from this life to another place (heaven). So he may give us new bodies after we pass from this life and download our uploaded soul-brain-memories-feelings-smells..etc????????????????

[Spurius Furius]

Of Coarse our brains are not binary. But because you belive you cannot backup any other electrical impluses does not mean that it is not impossible to do so. Our technolgy-mans at this point has been increasing to even to the point of adding smell to email. Because you do not have the equipment in front of you now, today, doesnt mean that it doesnt exist out there. What about technology with silent films in their day and time. I'm sure they thought that adding sound and color was impossible. Sure seems like some of the notations here, that most people appear to be short sighted. We only use a small part of our brain..there is endless possibilities and technologies yet to be discovered by man. How can you say you know for sure as you state that backing up memories, feelings, smells, thought, etc.. is IMPOSSIBLE??? Ever heard someone say a car fell on a man, and another, miraculously picked up the car off the injured man..that was physically impossible.. Maybe our creator sent that extra strenghth (electrically) to the man that lifted the car off the injured man.. HMMM... if electrical impulses can be downloaded..(or any other yet discovered memories..etc...then why could it not be possible to upload your personal data to a backup drive?? The Bible says our Creator will give us new bodies when we pass from this life to another place (heaven). So he may give us new bodies after we pass from this life and download our uploaded soul-brain-memories-feelings-smells..etc????????????????
You may be right, at some point in the future we may be able to download brain impulses and store and retrieve memories. How does this support your god theory? If god existed and was all powerfull, it would not make a lick of difference if the mechanics of moving your "soul" and "mind" to another body makes sense in a physical way or not. He would just wish it and it would be done.

[BadFish]

Of Coarse our brains are not binary. But because you belive you cannot backup any other electrical impluses does not mean that it is not impossible to do so. Our technolgy-mans at this point has been increasing to even to the point of adding smell to email. Because you do not have the equipment in front of you now, today, doesnt mean that it doesnt exist out there. What about technology with silent films in their day and time. I'm sure they thought that adding sound and color was impossible. Sure seems like some of the notations here, that most people appear to be short sighted. We only use a small part of our brain..there is endless possibilities and technologies yet to be discovered by man. How can you say you know for sure as you state that backing up memories, feelings, smells, thought, etc.. is IMPOSSIBLE??? Ever heard someone say a car fell on a man, and another, miraculously picked up the car off the injured man..that was physically impossible.. Maybe our creator sent that extra strenghth (electrically) to the man that lifted the car off the injured man.. HMMM... if electrical impulses can be downloaded..(or any other yet discovered memories..etc...then why could it not be possible to upload your personal data to a backup drive?? The Bible says our Creator will give us new bodies when we pass from this life to another place (heaven). So he may give us new bodies after we pass from this life and download our uploaded soul-brain-memories-feelings-smells..etc????????????????
This is the dumbest thing i've heard so far.

[Lucretius]

BackupDrive:

Are you some kind of fucking idiot?

Just a question.

[HMS Beagle]

Dear BadFish and FuriousSpurious and Lucretius,
That's the very core of the problem, isn't it? We (RavingAtheists) are trying to communicate with fools, many of them quite sweet in their innocence and neediness. But as much as I would like to accord them respect, their idiocy is, ultimately, risible. Of course we become patronizing in the face of theists' cowardice. They fear nothingness as if nothingness was new to them (before they were born, all was nothingness). I am half-ashamed to say that it amuses me to idulge theists, perhaps because it is so easy to toy with them. After all, they believe in a Sky God-- how childish is that?

[Tenspace]

I'm telling you, God is in the photons. :)

Ten

[HMS Beagle]

I'm telling you, God is in the photons. :)

Ten
Tell me more, or tell me you're joking. Because I don't know what that means, and your posts are usually so lucid. (Maybe the photon God is a reference to a posting of yours I haven't read?)

[Tenspace]

I made an earlier comment that the only entity I know if that fits the god test (omnipresence, omniscience, omni-etc) is electromagnetic radiation. Therefore, if I had to worship a god, it would be the Sun (or maybe a lightbulb at night). :)

Tenspace

[Tenspace]

Following up on what backup drive said (I'm not agreeing, just sharing additional info), I've found some real interesting stuff (posted by peer-reviewed scientists) about consciousness and its interconnection with physics and quantum actions. I haven't read enough to be ready to discuss, but it's way, way cool stuff, with the participation of some pretty respectable names.

Tenspace

[Rhinoqulous]

There's a good article at New Scientist about new developments in "scanning" for consciousness. I'd link to the article, but the site isn't opening right now. You can find it at newscientist.com.

Rhinoq

[Spiritual Atheist]

Ok maybe we do all rot in the ground, our physical being decomposes to nothing. But what happens to memories, our personality and the thoughts within us.
We know that the body begins to decompose as soon as we are dead. Depending on the embalming, where (and if) we're burried and countless other variables, the physical body can be gone in a matter of months or last thousands of years (King Tut or the Iceman) Why is it not possible for our spiritual self (the mind, memories and thought) to go throught the same decomposition process? Now, don't go nuts about having a spiritual side, we all have it. It has nothing to do with god or anything like that. We can preceive 4 dimentions (time height, width and depth) but there are actually up to 11 dimentions in the phsical universe according the the various string theory advocates. This is strictly physics, not religion. These are what I refer to as the spiritual dimentions. Just some food for thought and conversation.

[Somnus]

We can preceive 4 dimentions (time height, width and depth) but there are actually up to 11 dimentions in the phsical universe according the the various string theory advocates. This is strictly physics, not religion. These are what I refer to as the spiritual dimentions. Just some food for thought and conversation.
Some theories require 22 (or more) dimensions to work. String Theory cannot even be tested as of yet -- our microscopes cannot probe down to the lengths the supposed "strings" exist at. I've also read in a book (I read so many.. don't ask for the title) that there were a speculated 10 dimensions at the beginning of the Big Bang. The 4 we have now are merely vibrations from those dimensions. If I can remember correctly, the other 6 dimesions are "curled" up into a "ball", at the Planck length. Meh. And so goes the speculation we like to call theoretical physics. (gotta love it)

[BackupDrive]

Hey..guess my answer didnt post. Anyways..it went something like this, but better I'm sure. How can you say that emotions,soul, feelings, smells, etc CANT be backed up or transferred to some place else. Emails now can send smells. Our technology is improving all the time and discoveries made. Man uses only a small % of his brain's capacity..so how can we know it all. Matter can change form but never distroyed science says. If our body is a great % H2O, when we pass..water can change to hydrogen and oxegen..go to the air, bone can mix to the ground and become earth, our electrical energy can be transferred elsewhere. When the brain dies..no more electrical energy in the body, but may go somewhere else. All computers are binary, doesn't mean our brains, emotions and other senses are strictly binary and that there is no other possible means in this world of converting or transporting them to another form or place. Man has not mastered all he answers and technology that makes up this world and our existance yet. People when silent movies came out would never conceive that there could also be sound and color. Small minds to say "Can't be done". Ever hear of when someone was under a car pinned, and miraculously, a bystander lifts the car up off the person..sub-human event. Maybe our creator sends Extral electricity to the that person's brain to transfer to muscles and nerves, to help give extra strength to lift up that car. If it can be downloaded to a person, why can't it be uploaded? It is foolish to state that this is not possible and foolish for anyone to say or think that man has all the answers to discredit that this is possible. Man thought the world was flat, never conceived a plane could fly or a boat could float.

[BackupDrive]

Hey..guess my answer didnt post. Anyways..it went something like this. How can you say that emotions,soul, feelings, smells, etc CANT be backed up or transferred to some place else. Emails now can send smells. Our technology is improving all the time and discoveries made. Man uses only a small % of his brain's capacity..so how can we know it all. Matter can change form but never distroyed science says. If our body is a great % H2O, when we pass..water can change to hydrogen and oxegen..go to the air, bone can mix to the ground and become earth, our electrical energy can be transferred elsewhere. When the brain dies..no more electrical energy in the body, but may go somewhere else. All computers are binary, doesn't mean our brains, emotions and other senses are strictly binary and that there is no other possible means in this world of converting or transporting them to another form or place. Man has not mastered all he answers and technology that makes up this world and our existance yet. People when silent movies came out would never conceive that there could also be sound and color. Small minds to say "Can't be done". Ever hear of when someone was under a car pinned, and miraculously, a bystander lifts the car up off the person..sub-human event. Maybe our creator sends Extral electricity to the that person's brain to transfer to muscles and nerves, to help give extra strength to lift up that car. If it can be downloaded to a person, why can't it be uploaded? It is foolish to state that this is not possible and foolish for anyone to say or think that man has all the answers to discredit that this is possible. Man thought the world was flat, never conceived a plane could fly or a boat could float.

[BackupDrive]

Response to the following:

dd1989 wrote:
Ok maybe we do all rot in the ground, our physical being decomposes to nothing. But what happens to memories, our personality and the thoughts within us.

We know that the body begins to decompose as soon as we are dead. Depending on the embalming, where (and if) we're burried and countless other variables, the physical body can be gone in a matter of months or last thousands of years (King Tut or the Iceman) Why is it not possible for our spiritual self (the mind, memories and thought) to go throught the same decomposition process? Now, don't go nuts about having a spiritual side, we all have it. It has nothing to do with god or anything like that. We can preceive 4 dimentions (time height, width and depth) but there are actually up to 11 dimentions in the phsical universe according the the various string theory advocates. This is strictly physics, not religion. These are what I refer to as the spiritual dimentions. Just some food for thought and conversation.

RESPONSE: JUST BECAUSE A COMPUTER CAN BE PROVED THAT IT IS STRICTLY 0'S AND 1'S..WITH SCIENCE ..DOESN'T MEAN THAT MAN DID NOT CREATE THE COMPUTER, USING SCIENCE AS A TOOL OF HIS CREATION. THERE IS A CREATOR OF THE COMPUTER AND THE CREATOR IS MAN. JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN PROVE SOMETHING WITH PHYSICS AND SAY IT IS STRICTLY PHYSICS..A TOOL, DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE OR SOMETHING ELSE CAN NOT USE PHYSICS AS A TOOL.

[Rhinoqulous]

Ok, Backup, think of it this way. On your computer you have various programs and files, which are nothing more than electrical signals. In your brain, you have memories, beliefs, etc., which are nothing more than electrical signals. I take a hammer to a computer, effectively destroying it. Where are the programs, files, etc. that were contained in the computers "memory"? They are lost, plain and simple. The same is with the brain. I take a hammer to a brain and mash it up, the electrical signals stop, and thus the memories, personal identity, etc., of the particular brain ceases to exist.

Rhinoq

[BackupDrive]

Rhinoqulous...Answer: I hear you what you are saying, but IF..IF..IF..my thoughts are that if all our memories, emotions, feelings, soul..electrical energy can be sent out WHILE we are alive to another place(heaven), then it may exist somewhere else while we are alive and after our body dies. Did you read my earlier right ups on the possibilities and technologies man has yet to fully understand yet? That's my concept and thoughts on the matter.

[PanAtheist]

"People when silent movies came out would never conceive that there could also be sound and color."

Woah!
Back up, Drive!

[PanAtheist]

All the light switches in my house are conscious.

[Rhinoqulous]

Well, if Heaven has electricity, it is a physical place. If it is a physical place, it operates under entropy. If there's entropy, Heaven can't be eternal. So even IF you could send the electrical impulses that are "you" to some magical place called heaven, it doesn't guarantee eternal life, cause those electrical impulses will eventually fade just as they do here in the "real" world.

Rhinoq

[PanAtheist]

"Electricity is magic."
"Anything can happen."

[skeptology]

I'm sure some of you are aware of the scientific theory of memetics. now as i know that it is nowhere near proven it does pose an answer to the question of intelligence. could it pose an answer to the soul. is the soul just our intelligence? could we have a so called soul without intelligence.

[z3n]

is the soul just our intelligence? could we have a so called soul without intelligence.
I don’t know, do you think mentally retarded people have less of a ‘soul’ then normal people? I don’t think that you mean intelligence; I think you mean, “mind”. Mind is a better term when talking about this kind of thing because it doesn’t rely on a person’s consciousness or education.

Now is a ‘soul’ just our ‘mind’, well that’s a good question.

Meme: an information pattern, held in an individual's memory, which is capable of being copied to another individual's memory.

Well I’m sure that this is why Christians of the world are having a fit when it comes to human cloning, because if a human can copy and create a new human then that leaves little room for god. If the mind can be replicated then that essentially takes away the concept of being or of being linked to, the soul, because Christians I'm sure would argue that humans cannot, or at least should not copy ‘souls’.

[z3n]

but when you die you need the spirit to exist in to live and thats the body of our Lord Jesus Christ. If you don't receive the baptism you will not have the energy to live out of matter or procreate , meaning to generate eternal intentions.
Good little Christian robot. Way to babble out meaningless doctrine without backing anything up with real evidence.

Combining form of atomtries for consumptions, fragrances and external surroundings and tranquillity.
I can’t even respond to this since it makes no sense. Maybe it would help if you defined “atomtries” since it’s not in the dictionary and therefore apparently a word that you just made up. You really need to stop trying so hard to use big words and just write out what you’re trying to say.

As we create thoughts by intentions in the vacuum of space in our minds now.
Intentions are “created by” thoughts not the other way around. And you may have space in your mind, but I happen to have nerve cells in mine.

When we die and become in the spirit and body of Christ we create eternal intention in space procreations.
Oh, hum, more illogical babble. Show some evidence that we have a spirit and that Christ is a god and then maybe we can actually have an intelligent discussion.

[Tenspace]

ombining form of atomtries for consumptions, fragrances and external surroundings and tranquillity.
Mushrooms - definitely mushrooms.

[z3n]

Will you quit making shit up. You do realize that normal people in the real world don’t talk like that. Maybe you’re trying to come off as intelligent or something but you’re really just coming off as a goof ball.

With that said, you’re like a frigging train wreck, I just can’t help but look:

First comes reasoning which is the vibration of the intention before the thought is created inturn thoughts are created by reason of intentions.
Nothing comes before thought alright. This is not a point you can argue because to state otherwise is plain wrong. Thought is to form or have in the mind so if you don’t have thought you aren’t having anything else. No reasoning, intention, opinions, or sex fantasies.

As you said" atomtrie's is not in the dictionary"but maybe the word should be, but never the less I mean different types.
Well it’s not; so why don’t you write Webster and ask for it to be put in.

But until then, different types of what? You can’t just make up words and expect people to know what the hell you’re talking about.

[Rhinoqulous]

I think sparky is trying to say "Atom Trees", uhm, you know, atoms that look like trees. As for types, you have orange atom trees, apple atom trees...
:)

Rhinoq

[Messenger]

Your soul does not need electricity to run. Your body is a cast for your soul

[Choobus]

Your soul does not need electricity to run. Your body is a cast for your soul
got any proof of that, retard?

[Messenger]

Choobus wrote: got any proof of that, retard?
Thats why it's called faith... retard

[Choobus]

Choobus wrote: got any proof of that, retard?
Thats why it's called faith... retard
So in other words, no no proof at all, which means it could be and most likely is made up bullshit designed to comfort the intellectually challenged.

I bet that if they sold the pope's excrement in bags christians would pay top dollar for it. That's how fucking retarded they are. Holy shit, only ten bucks a bag. Eat it for miracle cures and enhanced christianity. I believe thisplan is in factr being implemented, hence the perpetual smirk of Joey Ratz, (aka palpatine, aka bender 16).

Grilled cheese that looks like jesus? RETARDS

A piss stain that looks like the "virgin" Mary? RETARDS

Buggery by Priest? Sick and disgusting RETARDS

[Messenger]

Choobus wrote: Grilled cheese that looks like jesus? RETARDS
that doesnt make any sense. Ok so there was a piece of grilled cheese that looked like Jesus, that doens't mean all Christians believe it was a sign from God, it may or may have not been a sign you Don't know.

[Choobus]

Choobus wrote: Grilled cheese that looks like jesus? RETARDS
that doesnt make any sense. Ok so there was a piece of grilled cheese that looked like Jesus, that doens't mean all Christians believe it was a sign from God, it may or may have not been a sign you Don't know.
It's indicative of the incredible stupidity associated with faith.

I hate to generalize but EVERY SINGLE christian WITHOUT EXCEPTION is fucking retarded.

Woulds you buy a bag of pope shit? What about a turd from the asshole of Jesus himself? Would you try to insert it into your own back door to get closer to god. How much faith would you need before you would stick a fossilized jesus turd deep in your ass?

[Messenger]

Choobus, you make no sense at all. Nothing you say is relevant to what anyone with a brain would say, it has nothing to do with what is in discussion. pope poop WTF man you are seriously messed up that doesn't make any sense putting poop in my ass to make me closer to God, you obviously have some issues. Want me to help you find a shrink?

[Choobus]

No time to lose messenger, there's some hobo vomit that looks a bit like John the baptist. It's time to worship

pray for me, you pussy

[Messenger]

I will pray for you

[Choobus]

wait, I don't mean pray for something unfortunate to happen. Pray for me to win the lottery or something like that.

[Messenger]

no, I will pray for your soul

[Choobus]

Do me a favor and pray for my cock as well will you. I think I jerked off too much today and it's a bit swollen. The healing touch of the lord is just what I need, so to speak

[Messenger]

what you need is a shrink

[Choobus]

what you need is a shrink
So you keep saying. Isn't the power of JEsus strong enough to help someone as sick as me? Now, get on your fucking knees and pray. Pray like the wind dammit

[Eva]

cut it out kids.....

[ghoulslime]

Choobus wrote: it may or may have not been a sign you Don't know.
The omnipotent god chooses to send a message to the world via a cheese sandwich?! What kind of wacked out shit is that? It seems to me the cocksucker could afford to send a great big fucking glowing angel to fly around Times Square singing glory glory pay your fucking tithing.

[solidsquid]

Your soul does not need electricity to run. Your body is a cast for your soul
No electricity (sodium and potassium ion exchange), no action potentials. No action potentials, no brain function. No brain function, what makes you you is gone.

[Another brick in the wall]

Messenger:

Where is the soul located? What is its chemical composition? How much does it weigh? How does it communicate with the brain? If all our thoughts and emotions can be explained in terms of brain activity, why is it even necessary to posit a soul?

[Aristarchus]

Where is the soul located? What is its chemical composition? How much does it weigh? How does it communicate with the brain? If all our thoughts and emotions can be explained in terms of brain activity, why is it even necessary to posit a soul?
The soul is a wave that is perpendicular to light and magnetism in its own dimension. Some of the gluons in the atoms in the brain present these oscillations. They exist in the prefrontal cortex and are quantumly entagled with each other. These can oscillate into the dimension that God resides in. The right-hand rule can be applied to the fields this creates only in the Northern hemisphere, but down South things tend to flush the other way. All of this has been measured and proven.
...Wait, no it hasn't. :lol::lol::lol:

[Tenspace]

Where is the soul located? What is its chemical composition? How much does it weigh? How does it communicate with the brain? If all our thoughts and emotions can be explained in terms of brain activity, why is it even necessary to posit a soul?
The soul is a wave that is perpendicular to light and magnetism in its own dimension. Some of the gluons in the atoms in the brain present these oscillations. They exist in the prefrontal cortex and are quantumly entagled with each other. These can oscillate into the dimension that God resides in. The right-hand rule can be applied to the fields this creates only in the Northern hemisphere, but down South things tend to flush the other way. All of this has been measured and proven.
...Wait, no it hasn't. :lol::lol::lol:
From Aristarchus' upcoming new book, "The Chirality of God"

:D

[Another brick in the wall]

With jargon like that, you could start your own "alternative" healing practice. You'll make millions.

[God, my arse]

Our memories and thoughts are proteins they break down and are used by other organisms. Sad isn't it, that that is all we are.

[Another brick in the wall]

I don't think it's sad that our existence is temporary. In fact, it makes it more worthwhile. I've always taken solace in the fact that I'm a fairly insignificant part of the universe. It was here billions of years before I was born and it will be here billions of years after I'm dead. No need to get too excited about anything.

[John316]

Ok maybe we do all rot in the ground, our physical being decomposes to nothing. But what happens to memories, our personality and the thoughts within us.
When one dies, one's body returns to where is originally came from, soil. However your memories, personality, behavior, character etc. stay within you, as it is part of your soul/spirit not your physical flesh. Therefore they carry on to either Heaven with Christ or Hell with Satan - which in fact hell was originally created for satan and his angels and not for you. So, choose wisely. If you want to make sure you're not affected by the second death (hell) then you must consider to accept willingly Christ as your personal savior. By choice not by force. God created us to choose; by will. He didn’t create us to love him by force, but by will which is genuine love. Just as you cannot force anyone to love you, but you can make yourself loveable. Christ said those who accept me in their hearts and confess with their mouth they will be saved. Simple, yet a lot of people like to make it very complicated. Afterwards make sure you keep connection with God and you by prayer and he will direct you path. Jesus said if you have faith small as a mustard see you can move mountains (quality over quantity) - how far can you take the much faith you have with you through trials and tribulations. However God is faithful and he will always provide a way for you to stand up under it. If you become interested please visit Christian churches that can provide you with more in depth info.

[Another brick in the wall]

God created us to choose; by will. He didn’t create us to love him by force
Why does god care if we worship him or not? He's all-knowing and all-powerful but he gets lonely? That doesn't make any sense. Also, how is threatening someone with hell-fire not using force? Love me or burn? Thanks, but I can do without that kind of love.

[lee]

Christ said those who accept me in their hearts and confess with their mouth they will be saved. Simple, yet a lot of people like to make it very complicated.
So a mass murdering serial rapists who repents before he dies gets to go to heaven, while a basically good moral, just and loving person who has never stolen anything or hurt anybody goes to hell just because he doesn't believe in god???

[Tenspace]

Christ said those who accept me in their hearts and confess with their mouth they will be saved. Simple, yet a lot of people like to make it very complicated.
So a mass murdering serial rapists who repents before he dies gets to go to heaven, while a basically good moral, just and loving person who has never stolen anything or hurt anybody goes to hell just because he doesn't believe in god???
We've had this discussion before, and yes, the repentant rapist is more holy in the eyes of God than the man who lived a good life, worked hard, took care of his family, loved his wife, etc. Them's the rules.

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[Lundie]

So a mass murdering serial rapists who repents before he dies gets to go to heaven, while a basically good moral, just and loving person who has never stolen anything or hurt anybody goes to hell just because he doesn't believe in god???
The whole of Xian doctrine in one apt sentence.