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deadfeelings
06-06-2005, 07:12 PM
i need to know your thoughts. its as simple as that. :/

if good exists in everyone evil also must, bullshit or not ?

i get the feeling if it aint i have too much evil in me or that the good is reccesive or some shit, religeon aint the answer, what is ?

ill hav 2 giv u an I.O.U for ya thoughs though

Evil_Mage_Ra
06-07-2005, 01:12 AM
I believe that all people are good *and* evil, depending on the situation and point-of-view, but I don't see why the presence of good *necessitates* the presence of evil.

Hope this helps a little.

Tenspace
06-07-2005, 02:45 AM
Good: Doublestuf Oreo Cookies
Evil: Wolf Spiders

Maybe there is a God. :)

Tenspace

ghoulslime
06-07-2005, 03:49 AM
“Good” and “Evil” are abstract concepts invented by human society. Is the mouse evil because it tries to eat grain? Is a cat evil because it tries to eat the mouse? Is an alligator evil? A lion? They are only what they have evolved to be. All living things are temporary winners in the survival of the fittest. You evolved as a predator, as did I.

Have I personally ever had thoughts that others would consider “evil”? You’re damn right. It wouldn’t take much to set me off. Truly, sometimes the only thing that stands between Ghoulslime going on a killing rampage is a thin line of social conditioning. Today I got a traffic ticket for doing jack shit. Will I fight it? In Los Angeles? Forget it. I will pay it. And I will think about beating that fucking cop’s face into a bloody pulp.

Honestly, my violent tendencies are just beneath the surface. It really wouldn’t take much more bullshit to set me off. Someday, maybe, just maybe, you might see Ghoulslime on the news rolling a fucking cop’s head down the street like a bowling ball.

Everybody has the potential to be a killer. It is what we are. You aren’t evil. You are human.

Rhinoqulous
06-08-2005, 12:27 PM
Everybody has the potential to be a killer. It is what we are. You aren’t evil. You are human.
I don't know, years of dedication to the Screaming Blue Ants have left me quite the mellow fellow. Maybe Philboid can back me up on this.

Rhinoq

Philboid Studge
06-08-2005, 12:30 PM
'Dedication to'? You mean, we weren't supposed to be eating the damn things? Uh oh ...

ghoulslime
06-08-2005, 12:53 PM
Everybody has the potential to be a killer. It is what we are. You aren’t evil. You are human.
I don't know, years of dedication to the Screaming Blue Ants have left me quite the mellow fellow. Maybe Philboid can back me up on this.

Rhinoq
The bunny god demands human sacrifice!

Kate
06-08-2005, 04:20 PM
Fear the bunny!! :O

ghoulslime
06-09-2005, 12:42 PM
On your Knees, Screaming Blue Ants! A vision came to me from a far-off land. And a voice spake unto me saying, "I am an angel of the Load. Behold the power of your master!"

http://ravingatheist.com/forum/img/uploads/killerbunny.jpg


:o:o:o

Thanks, Angel.

Kate
06-09-2005, 12:51 PM
And the Angel said, "Pass the BBQ sauce!"

Rhinoqulous
06-09-2005, 01:10 PM
http://ravingatheist.com/forum/img/uploads/Dead-rabbit.jpg

See what happens when you worship false Idols? Praise the Screaming Blue Ants!!

Sternwallow
06-09-2005, 01:23 PM
Good and evil are not opposits. They are related but indipendent so a situation can be composed of great good from one source and great evil from another simultaneously. Light and dark are not opposits. Blackness is not negative light, it is absence of light. That is why no one will invest in my flashdark invention that shoots a beam of blackness in an illuminated room. Evil is not the absence of good any more than you can recycle trash more than 100%.
So those who say that evil is necessary as a backdrop or contrast to good are simply wrong. The same goes for pleasure and pain. For instance, last week I had a very uncomfortable gastric upset(TMI) while thoroughly enjoying Star Wars III.

ghoulslime
06-09-2005, 03:30 PM
http://ravingatheist.com/forum/img/uploads/miageru.JPG

Genitalia 103:16 - And God spake unto the wicked from on high, and said in a voice which caused the ground to shake like a dog shitting razor-blades, "Rhinoqulous, you are a spawn of the devil! And surely demons clad in black bras and stringy panties shall smite thy buttocks with leather whips and taste thy private parts with lips that praise not their God but worship the staff which is the root of all evil."


http://ravingatheist.com/forum/img/uploads/avery-ants-rants.jpg

Fellations 19:41 – And it came to pass that screaming blue ants came into the land and deceived the people so that they knew not their own assholes from holes in the ground. And God did curse them and cause that they should walk the land seeking only unprotected anal sex for the remainder of their days.

Philboid Studge
06-09-2005, 03:55 PM
And surely demons clad in black bras and stringy panties shall smite thy buttocks with leather whips and taste thy private parts ...
That doesn't sound so bad. If that's the price of worshipping SBA then by God I'm sticking with the SBA.

Rhinoqulous
06-09-2005, 04:03 PM
When is this going to happen? I'm busy shooting this weekend, but your God could smite me in a week or two. Make sure to send plenty of demons, they can smite me all weekend if they want. The Screaming Blue ants will protect me, and I shall persevere.

Rhinoq

ps. I do have to admit, your pics are better than mine. Props to you, ghoulslime

Tenspace
06-09-2005, 05:25 PM
On your Knees, Screaming Blue Ants! A vision came to me from a far-off land. And a voice spake unto me saying, "I am an angel of the Load. Behold the power of your master!"
Reminds me of the lyrics to the hidden track on the Tool CD, Undertow:

"Disgustipated"
And the angel of the lord came unto me, snatching me up from my place
of slumber. And took me on high, and higher still until we moved to
the spaces betwixt the air itself. And he brought me into a vast
farmlands of our own midwest. And as we descended, cries of impending
doom rose from the soil. One thousand, nay a million voices full of
fear. And terror possesed me then. And I begged, "Angel of the Lord,
what are these tortured screams?" And the angel said unto me, "These
are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! You see,
Reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the
holocaust." And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the
tears of one million terrified brothers and roared, "Hear me now, I
have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life,
they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our
brothers!" Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah? Thank you
Jesus.

Life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on........
This is necessary.

ocmpoma
06-09-2005, 07:11 PM
"Jesus won't you fucking whistle something but what's past and done..."

HMS Beagle
06-09-2005, 09:38 PM
if good exists in everyone, evil also must, bullshit or not ?

i get the feeling if it aint ,i have too much evil in me or that the good is reccesive or some shit, religeon aint the answer, what is ?
For a start, I'd say that the very fact that you posted this question means you've got plenty of Good in you-- otherwise you wouldn't worry about the Evil. Is that any help?

Rev Richard Tator
06-10-2005, 02:06 AM
I refuse to believe that if there were a “god” holding mysterious un-comprehensible powers, he would have the heart to condemn any person, good or evil, to a place known as hell for all eternity. It just seems to contradict the whole concept. Christians are blood-bath jerks who have something coming to them. But I am always willing to keep an open mind. “I would rather live my life believing in a god, and die to find out there isn’t than live my life not believing, and get there to find out that there is.” Mmm, that one did not really phase me, but food for thought for some of you who are not sure. As for me I am confident that when you die your corpse/ashes rot. One life to live, then you are done.

WITHTEETH
06-13-2005, 07:51 PM
Should people be divided up as good here, and evil there?
What happened to the cat? he was killed. why was the cat killed? curiosity. is that enough of a reason to damn people from then on, over curiosity and fruit? The cat didn't know it was going to kill him!
What kind of programming do you think a person has when he lives in a perfect world, with everything given to him. without right and wrong a person can't learn a view of good and bad. why would a god not program right and wrong into humans head better if he was so serious? why didn't he do it right the first time if hes so omnipotent and all powerful .... maybe he isn't that powerful.
Are we really fundementally flawed?
I do not beleive us to be fundmentally flawed, if we were then why wouldn't a god fix that flaw? I believe we are perfected as the human race lives on.
Man is the greatest enemy of man, we torment eachother.
Then again, I think evil is an illusion, it doesnt exist, it only exist in your minds. You think im evil because i don't believe what you beleive, thats a typical viewpoint of one belief to another. so im going to "hell".
Maybe there is no evil but rather the consequences of the species developing adaptive strategies that tend to be accompanied by pain, suffereing, unhappiness, and conflicts of intrests, all part of evolving and growing up.

BTW I wrote this post debating against christians.