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ThePunish
06-11-2005, 02:48 PM
God is the soul of the universe.God is the Void, the vacuum or nothingness between all physical
manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components.The Zero-Point.The universe is God´s illusion.
I have had in my hands a number of prophecies written in the beggining of the first millenium(1097,Velazay, France).John of Jerusalem´s prophecies.He was a Knight of Malta´s Order .He saw how would be the year 2000,...and how will be the days before to the beginning of this millenium...This prophecies were found in a Varsovia sinagogue in the WW II by the SS nazis:

"I see that it will happen. A hand guide me in what you won´t know and won´t see. I see that it will be. I´m the scribe.

When the millennium that follows the millennium begins...
...The man will have stocked the earth, seas and skys with his creatures. He won´t know any limit. He will claim God´s powers. But he won´t suspect that all the things will rise up...
...It will be built Towers of Babel in all places of the earth, and the fields will be empty. But the barbarians will be in the city. There won´t be more law that look of its own and ownself...
...Entire regions will be war bootys. In the ancient territories of Roman Empire there will be war between believers. The jews and Allah´s sons will combat each day. And Christ´s land will be his battlefield...
...Those who will speak of promises and law won´t be heard.Those who preach Christ´s faith will lose his voice in the desert. But the powerful waters of infidel´s religions will expand. False Messiahs will group the blinds men. And the infidel will speak about justice and right, and his faith will be blood and fire. They will revenge the crusade and they combat until the same end, the death, which will advance as the standard of the new times...
...All will see that happens in all places of the Earth. It will see the child whose bones are marked in the skin, and whose eyes are covered with flys, and the child that will be hunt as the mouses. But in the Towers of Babel of the opulence the man who see this will turn his head. He will give a grains as charity, while he will sleep in a fully sacks. But that he will have given with one hand, he will recovered with the other hand...
...The spirit and the look of the men will be prisoners. They will be drunk, but they won´t know. They will take the images and the reflexes as the truth of the world. Then the carnivorous will arrive. They will group the men in flocks for conducting in a best way to the abyss, and they will rise up ones against the others...
...It will reign the sovereign without faith. They will occult his face, and will hide his name...But they will be who will decide about all the people and all situations. All of the humans will be vassals, but they will believe to be knights and free men...The city´s of heretic beliefs will rise up, but they will be defeated and will be burnt alive...
...The hunger will attack more belly and the cold will terrify more hands, that they will want to see other world. The merchants of illusions will come, and they will offer the poison...And those who have mixed the poison with his blood will be as a savage monsters caught in a trap. And they will steal, and will kidnap, and will kill, and will rape...And the life will be a daily apocalypse...
...The men will be more numerous in the Earth, that it will be seem a swarm where someone will stick his sword. The dark skins will be mixed with white skins, the infidel with Christ´s faith...Big movements will confront ones against the others...
...The man will have entered in a dark labyrinth. He will have fear and he will close his eyes, because he will couldn´t see. The Cassandra´s voice will be stronger. But he won´t hear. His head will have lost in the fantasies and he will only wish have more and more. His teachers will use the mirage for lying him...
...The life will be withered because the man will exhaust earth´s resources. He will be afraid of the future days. But it will be too later. The desert will devour the Earth, the air will burn the skins because it will be a hole veil and won´t protect of Sun´s fire, and the water will rise up and will bit the Earth, and the next day the Earth will be lack of it...
...The mother will have the grey hair of the old-woman. Natural´s ways will be left. And the families will be as separate grains which nothing could unit. It will be another world. They will fail without ties, as runaway horses. Unlucky the knight who ride this mount...
...The men won´t trust in God´s law. They will want to choose his sons in the belly of the mothers. And they will kill those who won´t wish. But, what will happen to this men who believe to be God?...
...All the cities will be Sodoma and Gomorrah. The gold will be in the blood. And the sons of the sons will be the burning cloud. They will rise up the old standards...
...It will must feel fear of Man´s son. The poison and the desperation will ambush him. It only will be wished by ownself, not for him or the world. It will be ambushed in all the places by the pleasure. But, the protected by his owns, will be able to have a dead Spirit. He will live in the game and the mirages. And, who will guide him when he won´t have teachers?
...The children will be sealed. Some people will use them as guys for enjoying his young skin. Others will use them as servile animals. It will be forgotten the sacred weakness of the child and his mystery, it will be as a colt who is trained, as a lamb who it is bled, who is sacrified. And the man will only be barbarity...
...The man will believe to be God, despite the fact that they won´t advance nothing since his birth. He will have the strong of Goliath, but his soul will be very tiny. His head will be fully of knowledge. But he won´t know why he lives or dies...
...The terrain will be shocked in many places, and the cities will sink. All that it has built without wise´s approved will be destroyed. The mud will flood the countries. The man will be stubborn, because the pride is her madness. They won´t hear Earth´s warnings. The fire will destroy the New Romes, and between the soldiers of the last legions, the barbarians and the poor will steal the abandoned riches. And the sea will rise up as furious water. Entire continents will disappear, and the men will run to the heights. Then, it will be announced the end of the times of the barbarians...

When the millenium that follows the millenium will be established fullness...

...The man will know a second birth. The spirit will seize the people, who will live in fraternal love. It will be time of the new validity of the faith. Before the darks days of the millenium that follows the millenium, it will arrive the happy days, the man will find the way of the men. And the Earth will be tidy. The deserts will be irrigated, and the whole world will be a beautiful garden...
...The men will finally open his eyes. They won´t shut in his heads or in his cities anymore. They will see and hear from one part to another part of the world. The men will shape a unique body, and every one of them will constitute a tiny part of him, and all of them will be the heart .And will rise up a new language, which all the humans will speak it. The God´s word will be only one, and the Greater Human will birth...
...The man will conquer the space. He will create stars in the dark sea. And he will sail in this ship, New Ulises, partner of the sun, beyond the limits of the universe. He will be the sovereign of the water. He will built enormous nautical cities and he will feed with the harvest of the seas. Nothing will be forbidden to him.
...The men will know the spirit of all things, the rock or the water, the animal´s body or the look of the other...He will invent with the strong of the water that is budded in the fountains, and he will teach the wise to the men...The children will know better than nobody the Earth and the heaven. His spirit will have embraced all the things...
...The man won´t be the unique sovereign. The woman will grip the sceptre. She will be the great master of the new times, and what she thinks she will impose to the man. She will spread the sweetness of the mother before the Satan´s days; she will be the beauty before the barbarian times. Satan´s days will change in few time. The man will have learned to give...
...The man will believe again in the spirit. But It will come before the wars and the fire...And it will have been necessary the Iron fist for ordering the disorder, and for the man will find the good way.
...The man will know that all the beings will have been made of light, and he will respect them. He will know that he was, and he will know that he will be. They won´t be afraid anymore of his own death, because he know that her light never goes out."

I recommend this site:
www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence03.html

ThePunish
06-11-2005, 03:26 PM
sORRy for the gramatic errors...I´m a Spaniard...
"beginning of the first millennium"
"This prophecies were found in a WARSAW SYNAGOGUE..."

Philboid Studge
06-11-2005, 04:11 PM
I think you might be looking for RavingLunatic.com.

Tenspace
06-11-2005, 05:17 PM
Okay, I think this is the time to bring up Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. ThePunish, please look into this. You're showing all the classic symptoms:

Overtly fundamental beliefs, usually religious in nature.
Heightened Emotions
Cosmic significance in trivial events
Humorless
Full of Self-Importance
Hypergraphia (the tendency to write, and write, and write, usually without breaking for paragraphs, and often with spelling mistakes)
A feeling of Oneness with God and the universe
A feeling of having true insight as to the nature of the universe.
Claims of direct verbal communication with God
Absolute conviction in an enlightened "Truth".
Belief that internalized religious experiences are genuine
Reduced interest in sex, to the point of considering it evil.
Flashbacks in which the hallucination is considered an absolute.

The epileptic seizures usually only last for a few moments. during that time, patients claim they are speaking directly with God, or that the whole fundamental backbone of reality is shown to them with clear understanding.

One patient, asked after a seizure, "Do you believe in God?"
He answered, "But what else is there?"

Every time I see someone contribute a 500 word diatribe on their belief (whether God, Aliens, or Gaia) with no paragraphs, poor punctuation, and sub-par grammar, I have to wonder if they suffer from TLE.

Tenspace

(References: Boyer, 2001; Ramachandran, 1998, Pinker 2003)

Philboid Studge
06-11-2005, 06:26 PM
Overtly fundamental beliefs, usually religious in nature.
Heightened Emotions
Cosmic significance in trivial events
Humorless
Full of Self-Importance
Hypergraphia (the tendency to write, and write, and write, usually without breaking for paragraphs, and often with spelling mistakes)
A feeling of Oneness with God and the universe
A feeling of having true insight as to the nature of the universe.
Claims of direct verbal communication with God
Absolute conviction in an enlightened "Truth".
Belief that internalized religious experiences are genuine
Reduced interest in sex, to the point of considering it evil.
Flashbacks in which the hallucination is considered an absolute.
Maybe he's just an Objectivist.

Eva
06-12-2005, 01:25 AM
oye, gilipoyas.....y esa letanía, piensas sirve para algo?

vamos, sígalo por ahí.....

Rhinoqulous
06-12-2005, 05:01 AM
¿Cuál es los "gilipoyas"?

Eva
06-12-2005, 11:40 AM
quien mas.....thepun.....

ThePunish
06-12-2005, 07:24 PM
Os joderá saber que soy el sobrino de la mujer ciega que vió en su ECM. Y si, me gusta el sexo y he foll.... más que nadie aquí---
Pero no me gusta la hipocresía.Creo en el amor desinteresado.
Se que para los norteamericanos subidos en una nube, esto no sabran lo que es.Se que muy probablemente EVA no tenga respeto por DIOS ni EL AMOR, que viva en una casa DE DOS PISOS, CON PISCINA, CONDUZCA MERCEDES, mientras MILLONES DE NIÑOS se MUEREN DE HAMBRE... y en vez de hacer algo por ello, seguro que es de las que dirá que DIOS NO EXISTE porque ÉL no hace nada.Es ,en definitiva como todos ustedes soís, unos HIPÓCRITAS.THENSPACE sabes lo que es la HUMILDAD??sabe algún AMERICANO lo que es la HUMILDAD??Supongo que sí, pero serán de los que viven en el BRONX o los HISPANOS, los que ADOPTAN niños DESINTERESADAMENTE, y los que no votan al ASESINO de BUSH.Sabeís que significa ESTAR EQUIVOCADO o RECONOCER UN ERROR???..
THENSPACE me meteré tu CHARLATANERÍA por el CULO, ya que SEGURO que eres un PIJO AMERICANO que VE DEFECTOS A LOS DEMÁS, mientras ÉL ESTÁ LLENO DE MIERDA.
EVA ojala INVADA FIDEL CASTRO PUERTO RICO, para que se os QUITE esa SOBERBIA a muchos AMERICANOS.Que DESHONRAIS a vuestro PAIS.

Tenspace
06-12-2005, 10:16 PM
Os joderá saber que soy el sobrino de la mujer ciega que vió en su ECM. Y si, me gusta el sexo y he foll.... más que nadie aquí---
Pero no me gusta la hipocresía.Creo en el amor desinteresado.
Se que para los norteamericanos subidos en una nube, esto no sabran lo que es.Se que muy probablemente EVA no tenga respeto por DIOS ni EL AMOR, que viva en una casa DE DOS PISOS, CON PISCINA, CONDUZCA MERCEDES, mientras MILLONES DE NIÑOS se MUEREN DE HAMBRE... y en vez de hacer algo por ello, seguro que es de las que dirá que DIOS NO EXISTE porque ÉL no hace nada.Es ,en definitiva como todos ustedes soís, unos HIPÓCRITAS.THENSPACE sabes lo que es la HUMILDAD??sabe algún AMERICANO lo que es la HUMILDAD??Supongo que sí, pero serán de los que viven en el BRONX o los HISPANOS, los que ADOPTAN niños DESINTERESADAMENTE, y los que no votan al ASESINO de BUSH.Sabeís que significa ESTAR EQUIVOCADO o RECONOCER UN ERROR???..
THENSPACE me meteré tu CHARLATANERÍA por el CULO, ya que SEGURO que eres un PIJO AMERICANO que VE DEFECTOS A LOS DEMÁS, mientras ÉL ESTÁ LLENO DE MIERDA.
EVA ojala INVADA FIDEL CASTRO PUERTO RICO, para que se os QUITE esa SOBERBIA a muchos AMERICANOS.Que DESHONRAIS a vuestro PAIS.
I'm an American "pijo" who sees defects in others (sorry, my spanish isn't too good)? Okay, I guess I will take the time to read your 1,500 word introduction. I will hold off being a dick. I suggest you take the time to read my other posts on this forum. I have been posting for six months, and you can learn more about me by reading those posts than by spewing such nasty filth from your mouth.

Tenspace

Tenspace
06-12-2005, 10:27 PM
God is the soul of the universe.God is the Void, the vacuum or nothingness between all physical
manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components.The Zero-Point.The universe is God´s illusion.

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...The man will know that all the beings will have been made of light, and he will respect them. He will know that he was, and he will know that he will be. They won´t be afraid anymore of his own death, because he know that her light never goes out."

I recommend this site:
www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence03.html
Okay, I read it. Twice. It still sounds like brainwashed religious psychobabble to me. I suggest you learn to select a subject, make your point, and respond accordingly.

Para el servicio en español, presione por favor dos: :)

Autorización, la leí. Dos veces. Todavía suena como psychobabble religioso lavada el cerebro yo. Sugiero que usted aprenda seleccionar un tema, que haga su punto, y que responda por consiguiente.

Tenspace

Eva
06-12-2005, 11:28 PM
pun, cáguese en su reputísima madre.
nada de lo que escribes guarda relación alguna con la realidad ni con lo que se escribe aquí.
si tienes algún punto que hacer, lo haces. y si te responden (si vale la pena hacerlo), respondes y ya.
aquí somos gente seria, y se te responde en proporción a la calidad de lo que escribas.
si vienes a proselitizar, te vas al soberanísimo carajo, desde ya.
no nos interesan tus letanías, pero si expones tus ideas razonable y lógicamente, se te responderá.

y el viajecito al carajo, será cortesía mía.

atentamente,

tu moderadora.

pd: que feo te queda el racismo.....

ThePunish
06-13-2005, 09:54 AM
Se que lamentarán que les haya escrito una EXPERIENCIA probada que os haga dudar de vuestros DOGMAS intocables.
GENTE SERIA que me llama gilipollas(es con "ll" no con "y"), dice que tengo aversión al sexo, contacto con directo con Dios, que me acusa de creerme poseedor de la verdad,sin sentido del humor, epiléptico...Mi crimen ha sido exponer unos escritos correspondientes a la SAGRADA Orden de Malta,decir lo que creía que era D-s y contar la experiencia de mi tia, que la CIENCIA no ha podido responder, con el máximo respeto.
Y para colmo, Eva, que se supone que tendría que moderar(si MODERAR, no ponerse de parte de NADIE) y hacer un debate serio, es la primera que insulta...
Retiro todo lo dicho, pero me repateó vuestra soberbia, y eso, añadido, a la imagen de América que se ha extendido por el mundo estos últimos años, ya que el ANTIAMERICANISMO BUSHIANO está expandiendose como la pólvora por toda Europa y el Mundo, a pesar de que allí no os entereís debido a la (des)información de cadenas como FOX NEWS, ha podido ser el desencadenante de mi reacción.
Quisiera cambiar el tema de debate ahora sobre las causas del ANTIAMERICANISMO en España.
Para mí son estas:
1) Necedad de la Presidencia del Gobierno; 2) Culto antiamericano de los mass media; 3) Odio a Aznar; 4) Antiamericanismo de la mayoría de artistas y famosos (Almodóvar, Sardá, etc.); 5) Antiamericanismo de Polanco; 6) Clásico antiamericanismo de las fuerzas del progresismo (sindicatos, partidos de moderada y extrema izquierda, sociedades "culturales"); 7) Resaca de la Guerra de Irak (caso Couso incl.); 8) Agravios históricos: Cuba(El Maine), Filipinas... 9) La derecha antiliberal. 10) Más odio a Aznar.(No he sentido tanto ODIO en mi vida cuando por culpa de la Guerra ILEGAL de Bush contra IRAK,ya que lo de las Armas de Destrucción Masiva era MENTIRA, los TERRORISTAS mataron a 200 ciudadanos en los trenes de Madrid.¡¡Las Bombas de Irak estallan en Madrid!!, ese es el mundo más seguro de Bush)
Me gustaría saber vuestra opinión y si apoyaís a Bush, que se ha destacado en la historia americana por decir frases tan intelectuales como estas:
-«Si no hacemos la guerra, corremos el riesgo de fracasar».
-«No es la contaminación la que amenaza el medio ambiente, sino la impureza del aire y del agua».
-«Pienso que si usted sabe lo que cree, será mucho más fácil responder a su
pregunta. No puedo responder a su pregunta».
-«Debería preguntarle al que me hizo la pregunta. No tuve oportunidad de
preguntarle al que me hizo la pregunta. ¿De qué pregunta se trata?».
-«Creo que estamos en un camino irreversible hacia más libertad y democracia. Pero las cosas pueden cambiar».
-«Estamos empeñados en trabajar con ambas partes para llevar el nivel de
terror a un nivel aceptable para ambas partes».
-«La cosa más grande de América es que cada uno debería votar»
-«Francamente, los enseñantes son la única profesión que enseña a nuestros niños».
-«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz».
-«Hemos perdido mucho tiempo hablando de Africa con justicia. Africa es una nación que sufre una increíble enfermedad».
-«He hablado con Vicente Fox, el nuevo presidente de México, para tener
petróleo que enviar a Estados Unidos. Así no dependeremos del petróleo
extranjero»(A lo mejor planea invadir México)
-«Entiendo que la agitación en Oriente Próximo crea agitación en toda la
región».
-«Mi viaje a Asia comienza en Japón por una razón importante. Comienza aquí porque desde hace siglo y medio América y Japón han formado una de las mayores y más duraderas alianzas de los tiempos modernos. De esta alianza salió una era de paz en el Pacífico». (Se refiere claramente a su visión de PAZ, la Segunda Guerra Mundial, esa es la Paz de Bush)

Un Saludo.

Eva
06-13-2005, 11:18 AM
oiga, aquí pocos quieren a bush. el es mas gilipoLLas que usted.
nadie había mencionado nada sobre el sexo hasta que lo hiciste tu.
como que lees cosas que nadie ha escrito, me parece.

mi labor como moderadora es mantener el orden, ni mas ni menos. no asumas cosas.
bien con que hubieras retirado lo dicho.

te informo que aquí postean personas de varias naciones e ideologías politicas distintas.

we reject superstition and pseudo scientific claims in general. theists have always been welcome to post here and many have done so. we only require proof and good arguments.

welcome.

sincerely,

your moderator.

ThePunish
06-13-2005, 12:01 PM
Por TENSPACE:(by TENSPACE:)
"Reduced interest in sex, to the point of considering it evil."
Traduzco(Translate)
Reducido interes en el sexo, hasta el punto de considerarlo malvado.

Se creerá TENSPACE que soy de la Santa Inquisición, pero está equivocado.
Me maravilla esta capacidad de prejuzgar.

Respecto a:
"we reject superstition and pseudo scientific claims in general."
D-s no se puede probar por la ciencia.Aporto experiencias personales, que como se salen del "método científico" se dejan de lado.Pero el caso es que suceden y están ahí.
I recommend this SCIENTIST page:
http://www.selfempowermentacademy.com.au/worldwatch/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21
Y aunque no tenga nada que ver, recomiendo esta otra página, donde se puede observar que EEUU(USA) ha sido SECUESTRADA(RAPTURE) por ENERGUMENOS que AMENAZAN a TODA la HUMANIDAD( All of the humanity). con sus hazañas belicas(war) .

"9 JUNE 2005...GOING AFTER IRAN.THE US PREPARES FOR THE THIRD GULF WAR..."
http://indiareacts.com/archivedebates/nat2.asp?recno=1159&ctg=World

Un saludo, especialmente a Eva, y prometo respetar si no me se falta al respeto.

Tenspace
06-13-2005, 01:05 PM
Se creerá TENSPACE que soy de la Santa Inquisición, pero está equivocado.
Me maravilla esta capacidad de prejuzgar.
Era síntomas justos del listado de un desorden común del cerebro. Cuando alguien fija un manojo de absurdo, como usted hizo con su poste original, lo tomé para ser otro ejemplo de la epilepsia temporal del lóbulo. Note que la lista entera está referida a los textos donde usted puede leer más sobre el desorden

Respecto a:
"we reject superstition and pseudo scientific claims in general."
D-s no se puede probar por la ciencia.Aporto experiencias personales, que como se salen del "método científico" se dejan de lado.Pero el caso es que suceden y están ahí.
No es la obligación de la ciencia probar a dios. Cualquier experiencia personal puede ser explicada sin prestar atención a ser supernatural. Si usted ha tenido verdad una experiencia personal que puede ser repetida, le sugiero la visita www.randi.org.

I recommend this SCIENTIST page:
http://www.selfempowermentacademy.com.au/worldwatch/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21
Y aunque no tenga nada que ver, recomiendo esta otra página, donde se puede observar que EEUU(USA) ha sido SECUESTRADA(RAPTURE) por ENERGUMENOS que AMENAZAN a TODA la HUMANIDAD( All of the humanity). con sus hazañas belicas(war) .
Eso no es una página de la ciencia. Es chatarra nueva de la edad. Si usted desea ver una página de la ciencia, visite por favor: www.sciencedaily.com (http://www.sciencedaily.com) o www.sciam.com (http://www.sciam.com) o www.sciencefriday.com (http://www.sciencefriday.com). Nos educan también para creer en el serpiente-aceite que se vende en la academia cósmica del Internet.

Un saludo, especialmente a Eva, y prometo respetar si no me se falta al respeto.
I respect that you are now holding a conversation, instead of just posting lots of text. Also, we might want to converse in English, so other readers can follow along.

Tenspace

Rhinoqulous
06-13-2005, 01:43 PM
Also, we might want to converse in English, so other readers can follow along.

Tenspace
No sé español, pero mi ordenador . ¡Las maravillas de la tecnología
moderna! :P

Rhinoq

Eva
06-13-2005, 01:46 PM
i second the motion>
english, so more people can participate.

ThePunish
06-13-2005, 02:14 PM
i recommend other site_
http://www.psychicworld.net/Mroll.htm
And I suggest not going to the war with Iran...

Evil_Mage_Ra
06-13-2005, 02:22 PM
Um, hola......I-o would like-o taco and burrito, por favor....o?

Tenspace
06-13-2005, 02:26 PM
i recommend other site_
http://www.psychicworld.net/Mroll.htm
And I suggest not going to the war with Iran...
Looks interesting, I'll give it a read.

Ten

Eva
06-13-2005, 03:16 PM
ten, i think that your good nature, generosity and curiosity will not go unpunished (pardon the pun)
pun! haha!!

Tenspace
06-13-2005, 06:47 PM
ten, i think that your good nature, generosity and curiosity will not go unpunished (pardon the pun)
pun! haha!!
:D:D:D

Hey, we were all theists once. ::ducking::

Bighead
06-17-2005, 01:18 PM
я не понял нигего в этом которое было написано на испанском языке. но, я предлагаю, что если меня понимаешь давай на русском.

Bighead
06-17-2005, 01:18 PM
See? It's just not fair :D