Why Do You Pick On Christians?

[ghoulslime]

I just checked my email, and found one from an anonymous writer, who asks:

Ghoullsime why do you always pick on christions? I am not trying to fight with you I just want to understand why Christians. I don’t understand why we have done to make you so angry. Some of the things you say are really mean. I know you don’t want it but will pray for you.

I know this topic has been covered before. But this is a sincere person wishing to understand the motivation behind Ghoulslime’s psychopathic meanderings. I’m not so sure that I am necessarily the most qualified individual to explain this phenomenon to this seemingly gentle person. So I’ll do this dirty laundry in public where we can all enjoy the task. And Ghoulslime can be upbraided if he goes beyond what is morally acceptable.

Firstly, I must concede that I pick on Christians in my postings on The Raving Atheist.

For me, I think the two main reasons for singling out Christians are:

1. They seem to be the only Theists who come to stir the pot on this forum. I cannot say for sure why this is. Maybe most Muslims can’t read and write, or are too busy oppressing women and making bombs to blow up innocent people. Maybe the Jews are too busy counting their money and being self-righteous. I don’t know. I don’t care.

2. I grew up in a Christian-dominated society and at present live in one. Simply put, I have suffered the ill-effects of Christianity. I want to live in a secular and free society – like the United States was meant to be.

What have Christians done that is so bad? Kid, the list is too long for my tired fingers to make. – Lot’s of wars, lots of oppression, so on and so forth. Maybe we could make a list of all the many reasons just for the fun of it, if it would make you feel any better.

There, I tried to answer the question as best I can without being nasty. :rolleyes:

Truthfully, if I were to form a hierarchy of hated religions, Islam would be at the top. I utterly despise these primitive cave people with their asses in the air. At least the Christians have progressed beyond the “brutally murder everybody who disagrees with you” stage in social development. So don’t feel too bad! There are millions of people I hate more than you.

Anyone care to help me make a list of why Christians warrant such ill-repute?

[nvxplorer]

Anyone care to help me make a list of why Christians warrant such ill-repute?
Well, the attitude that "I'm right, and you're wrong," without any rhyme nor reason, is childlike and worthy of pity more than anything. However, unlike children, they are not satisfied with simply proclaiming their superiority; they have to make everyone else miserable as well. That invokes my ire, and any pity I may have felt is usurped by anger.

[WITHTEETH]

"The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad." - Friedrich Nietzsche

[ghoulslime]

Anyone care to help me make a list of why Christians warrant such ill-repute?
Well, the attitude that "I'm right, and you're wrong," without any rhyme nor reason, is childlike and worthy of pity more than anything. However, unlike children, they are not satisfied with simply proclaiming their superiority; they have to make everyone else miserable as well. That invokes my ire, and any pity I may have felt is usurped by anger.
http://ravingatheist.com/forum/img/uploads/crying_baby01.jpg

Waaaa!!! The Christians are always so right! IRE and USURPED sound like the names of scary demons! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

(Sorry, dude, I lost it for a second.) :)

[Tenspace]

My All-Time Favorite Christian Bumper Sticker:

"God Said It, I Believe It, And That Settles It!"

To me, that is what's wrong with Christianity. That, and "Spreading The Word". Oh, and denying reality.

This oughta be fun. :)

Ten

[thomas]

Love, peace, understanding and tolerance. That's why the atheists are going to make the world a better place.

[snap crafter]

Me? I hate christians because, coming from the bible belt, I have been surrounded by christians since birth. From birth to sixth grade I was a christian, I studied and all, but then something in my mind clicked, and I realised this wasn't making sense. So I proclaimed that this wasn't backed by evidence, guess what? I was beaten regularly by these christians, books and things ripable were ripped, women would spit on me and men would do something they liked to call a 'nutshot' which was worse than it sounds. But in highschool, I noticed that these raving lunatics weren't even following their texts, they would beat each other up, go drinking, beat up on women. I ask one why they do this, they say because jesus said they would sin, but as long as they believe. My favorite incident involved me reading a quoran in school, not a fun evening. Anyhoo, hypocricy is my favorite reason. over 30k denominations on one book? I mean come on. By the way, I know I mentioned this on another thread, but your my god GS *bow*

[peepnklown]

Picking on Christians is my anti-drug…:lol:

[Rhinoqulous]

Picking on Christians is my anti-drug…:lol:
The Screaming Blue Ants are my anti-drug, but they keep making me mainline shit.

Oh, and I don't hate christians/theists, I hate stupidity, ignorance, and bigotry. I have many good friends that are different flavors of theist, and Thomas and Lurker both seem like fine chaps. I enjoy debating/arguing with theists; I'm weird that way.

I do get pissed at the holier than thou crowd, which there seems to be a lot of here in the frozen north. They don't know how to hold even a simple conversation. "But G-Zus LOVES you!! He DOES exist, no matter what you stinky evil atheists say!!"

But theists like Taylor just piss me off. You reading this kid? You're a bigot. BIGOT!!

Rhinoq

[Bighead]

I hate christians who can't just give a simple answer that actually MEANS something when you ask them how they are doing. "I'm blessed today". GOD, I HATE THAT

[Lurker]

God isn't provable so what's wrong with sparing debates and heated conversation? You have your view and I have mine. Many of you act as though I have no logical reason to believe what I believe, when in fact I have very logical reasons. It's just you don't agree.

[snap crafter]

logical reasons? and what are those lurker?

[Lurker]

logical reasons? and what are those lurker?
You're new so I understand why you'd ask. I'm not going to rehash it though.

[snap crafter]

I think you just avoided my question using my young account as a shield, good job.

[Lurker]

I think you just avoided my question using my young account as a shield, good job.
No. I'm making good use of my time and you're being lazy by not searching this forum for answers to your own question. Good job.

[snap crafter]

Hmm, you tell me to go look for myself, but you wouldn't look up the whole mithra thing when GS took too long to respond? Do you know how large these forums are? that's a waste of my time. If there are so many very logical reasons to believe in god, just present one.

[DMofD&D]

That is true, lurker. But the question stands nevertheless. Perhaps you could have at least provided a link to your logcal reasons for being a theist? I don't know them myself. Like snappy, I'm to lazy to actually try to find the answers.

What/Why do I hate big Cs? One word: DISCRIMINATION. They're against homosexuals, african americans, women, people of other religions. That and they really mess up the world. Look at Bush. And they try to convert other people to their beliefs. I consider that the highest level of disrespect.

[Lurker]

Hmm, you tell me to go look for myself, but you wouldn't look up the whole mithra thing when GS took too long to respond? Do you know how large these forums are? that's a waste of my time. If there are so many very logical reasons to believe in god, just present one.
Proving Mithra's claims is for GS to do. Let him look it up.

Go to #46 and #54 (http://ravingatheist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=937&p=4) and #64 (http://ravingatheist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=937&p=5) and #91 & #104 (http://ravingatheist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=937&p=7) and #117 (http://ravingatheist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=937&p=8). That should be a good start.

[snap crafter]

Ok, if I had time, I would go through each one, and tell you why they aren't logical but just subjective. Too bad I have to go to work.

[StillSurviving]

Supporting evidence for the resurrection: The Detailed and Easily Refuted Account Was Not Falsified

Suppose I claimed tomorrow or 50 years from now that my Aunt Betty was wanted by Governor Schwarzenegger for questioning, was put on trial before Clarence Thomas and sentenced to death, was buried in the intended tomb of Tom Cruise and was later resurrected. How easy would it be for any part of this situation to be proven false by dozens/hundreds of people?
Let's say you make this claim 60 years from now.

We would look and find that there was no record of your supposed Aunt or her trial. Then as a Bettian, you would claim absence of evidence instead of evidence of absence.

Then you would plead for us to look for your aunt (whom we aren't sure ever existed) in Tom Cruise's tomb. When she wasn't there you would say that was proof of the resurrection of someone who may never have existed.

Maybe you have some friends who could each convince their immediate friends and family to believe or at least back up your story. You would offer these believers as proof, but it would only be hearsay.

[Lurker]

Let's say you make this claim 60 years from now.

We would look and find that there was no record of your supposed Aunt or her trial. Then as a Bettian, you would claim absence of evidence instead of evidence of absence.
Moving from the story of aunt betty to jesus.... we do have record of jesus' existence, his trial and his death. It's written down in documents commonly known as 'matthew, mark, luke & john'. These were written less than 60 years after the events.

The argument from silence does nothing to strengthen your case. Suppose 60 years after you die, nobody can find any records of your existence. Does the lack of records prove you never existed? No.

[Rhinoqulous]

Let's say you make this claim 60 years from now.

We would look and find that there was no record of your supposed Aunt or her trial. Then as a Bettian, you would claim absence of evidence instead of evidence of absence.
Moving from the story of aunt betty to jesus.... we do have record of jesus' existence, his trial and his death. It's written down in documents commonly known as 'matthew, mark, luke & john'. These were written less than 60 years after the events.

The argument from silence does nothing to strengthen your case. Suppose 60 years after you die, nobody can find any records of your existence. Does the lack of records prove you never existed? No.
But if in 60 years, if there was absolutely no proof that SS ever existed, would anyone be justified in claiming he existed? I'd say no.

I know I posted this elsewhere for thomas, but I'll post here again for you Lurker in case you didn't check it out. It's an article (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/quirinius.html) about a pretty big contradiction between Mathew and Luke on the date of the nativity (it all stems from when a Roman census took place; the census that caused Joseph and Mary to travel to Bethlehem). It's a pretty interesting read, if a bit long. I'd like to know what you think of it.

Rhinoq

[ghoulslime]

I think you just avoided my question using my young account as a shield, good job.
Don’t take it personally. Lurker has to wait for the voices in his head to tell him what the logical reasons are. You’ll know he has the reasons when he starts shouting and waving his arms.

Anyway, Lurker doesn’t need to use your youth as a shield. He has the shield of dogma to protect him.


http://ravingatheist.com/forum/img/uploads/lurkersshield.jpg

[Rhinoqulous]

Ghoulslime, you are simply amazing.

Rhinoq

[ghoulslime]

We would look and find that there was no record of your supposed Aunt or her trial. Then as a Bettian, you would claim absence of evidence instead of evidence of absence.
It's too late the religon has already been founded. You cant' stop the truth! Aunt Betty died for our sins!

http://ravingatheist.com/forum/img/uploads/swoman.jpg

…And she broke the bran muffin and gave it unto them saying, "Eat this muffin in remembrance of my body, and to maintain regular bowel movements.”

[snap crafter]

Jesus Ghoul, did you make that shield yourself? Very well done

[snap crafter]

Ok, lurker, I read over those, and since they were written in a different context I couldn't decifer this 'very logical reason' maybe you can paraphrase for me. Try to filter out the christian rant and get to the point.

[whoneedscience]

Ok, lurker, I read over those, and since they were written in a different context I couldn't decifer this 'very logical reason' maybe you can paraphrase for me. Try to filter out the christian rant and get to the point.
What? Cut out the rant? This should be good.

[Rhinoqulous]

Ok, lurker, I read over those, and since they were written in a different context I couldn't decifer this 'very logical reason' maybe you can paraphrase for me. Try to filter out the christian rant and get to the point.
What? Cut out the rant? This should be good.
That's what I love about Lurker, his rant. It's huge! Wait, what are we talking about?

[WITHTEETH]

Earlier post from today, my response defending relativism-

Why must you take relativism to extremes? lets take christianity to the extremes, ok 4.1 billion people arent christian out of 6 billion. so you 4.1 bilion all go to hell.
Times the holocost by 683 literally. How do you justify that, the same way the nazi's did? oh thats right you hide behind the invisible guy. atleast you can sleep better now knowing we're all gone.

[snap crafter]

That arguement wouldn't work with a christian withteeth, they would say that those people had a chance to accept jesus, but chose more earthly pleasures.

[ghoulslime]

Jesus Ghoul, did you make that shield yourself? Very well done
Jesus Ghoul...I like the sound of that!

I made the shield. Thank you, thank you very much. :cool:

[ghoulslime]

Ok, lurker, I read over those, and since they were written in a different context I couldn't decifer this 'very logical reason' maybe you can paraphrase for me. Try to filter out the christian rant and get to the point.
His posts are much like cotton candy - you suck on them a bit and soon realize there ain't much there. (I'd guess his sex life is like that too.) :D

[ghoulslime]

Ok, lurker, I read over those, and since they were written in a different context I couldn't decifer this 'very logical reason' maybe you can paraphrase for me. Try to filter out the christian rant and get to the point.
What? Cut out the rant? This should be good.
That's what I love about Lurker, his rant. It's huge! Wait, what are we talking about?
That sounds like a clear case of rant envy to me! You should buy a sports car to compensate.

[Blod]

I just checked my email, and found one from an anonymous writer, who asks:

Ghoullsime why do you always pick on christions? I am not trying to fight with you I just want to understand why Christians. I don’t understand why we have done to make you so angry. Some of the things you say are really mean. I know you don’t want it but will pray for you.
http://www.thebricktestament.com/acts/paul_in_athens/ac17_32b.jpg

source:http://www.thebricktestament.com/acts/paul_in_athens/ac17_32b.jpg

[ghoulslime]

I just checked my email, and found one from an anonymous writer, who asks:

Ghoullsime why do you always pick on christions? I am not trying to fight with you I just want to understand why Christians. I don’t understand why we have done to make you so angry. Some of the things you say are really mean. I know you don’t want it but will pray for you.
http://www.thebricktestament.com/acts/paul_in_athens/ac17_32b.jpg

source:http://www.thebricktestament.com/acts/paul_in_athens/ac17_32b.jpg
Jesus Flash-Back Christ! That looks like the Mormon church I had to attend all of my miserable childhood! NOOOO!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[openly68atheist]

God isn't provable so what's wrong with sparing debates and heated conversation? You have your view and I have mine. Many of you act as though I have no logical reason to believe what I believe, when in fact I have very logical reasons. It's just you don't agree.
Yea, we know you're reason, and there's only 1. You can't accept your own mortality, you can't accpet that even YOU are not forever. So you cowar into religion, thats the only illogical, fear driven reason.

[Bighead]

God isn't provable so what's wrong with sparing debates and heated conversation? You have your view and I have mine. Many of you act as though I have no logical reason to believe what I believe, when in fact I have very logical reasons. It's just you don't agree.
That would be fine...I would love to be able to just ignore the fact that there are morons who believe in fairies etc...the problem comes into play when said morons try to push their beliefs onto the rest of the populace. I won't go into detail because I think everyone in here can figure it out. (abortion, homosexuality, teaching real science in schools...etc etc etc)

[Metman07]

Truthfully, if I were to form a hierarchy of hated religions, Islam would be at the top. I utterly despise these primitive cave people with their asses in the air. At least the Christians have progressed beyond the “brutally murder everybody who disagrees with you” stage in social development. So don’t feel too bad! There are millions of people I hate more than you.
I don't think that Christianity is any better than Islam. The difference is that most societies in which Christianity is prevalent have separated the church and the state, removing the grip that religion previously had on their societies. These socieities have evolved to the point where they can curb much of Christianity's brutality. But to be fair, Islam is a younger religion and about 600 years ago in Europe, there were many similarities to the current state of affairs in Islamic countries.

[Lurker]

That would be fine...I would love to be able to just ignore the fact that there are morons who believe in fairies etc...the problem comes into play when said morons try to push their beliefs onto the rest of the populace. I won't go into detail because I think everyone in here can figure it out. (abortion, homosexuality, teaching real science in schools...etc etc etc)
Yet there are other morons who feel equally justified pushing their beliefs onto the rest of the populace. I won't go into detail because I think everyone in here can figure it out.

[Tenspace]

That would be fine...I would love to be able to just ignore the fact that there are morons who believe in fairies etc...the problem comes into play when said morons try to push their beliefs onto the rest of the populace. I won't go into detail because I think everyone in here can figure it out. (abortion, homosexuality, teaching real science in schools...etc etc etc)
Yet there are other morons who feel equally justified pushing their beliefs onto the rest of the populace. I won't go into detail because I think everyone in here can figure it out.
Gotta agree with ya lurker, that is one thing that drives me nuts about Bush.

Ten

[WITHTEETH]

I like to pick on them because they are gullible. Mu HAHAHA

[HeWhoAsks]

Suppose 60 years after you die, nobody can find any records of your existence. Does the lack of records prove you never existed? No.
This is such bad logic. You are assuming that which you are trying to establish. We can only conclude that for which we have evidence *even if it is true and we have no evidence.*

[Lurker]

Suppose 60 years after you die, nobody can find any records of your existence. Does the lack of records prove you never existed? No.
This is such bad logic. You are assuming that which you are trying to establish. We can only conclude that for which we have evidence *even if it is true and we have no evidence.*
It's a well known logical mistake to claim proof of something by citing lack of evidence/information. Whoever started this, is saying that lack of evidence proves jesus never existed/died/resurrected. If we had no evidence at all they would be correct, but we have a lot of other evidence - just not the missing evidence they want.

We may be in agreement here - I don't know.

[Lurker]

Gotta agree with ya lurker, that is one thing that drives me nuts about Bush.
Not Bush, the other morons. The answer is right under your nose so keep looking. :)

[HeWhoAsks]

Suppose 60 years after you die, nobody can find any records of your existence. Does the lack of records prove you never existed? No.
This is such bad logic. You are assuming that which you are trying to establish. We can only conclude that for which we have evidence *even if it is true and we have no evidence.*
It's a well known logical mistake to claim proof of something by citing lack of evidence/information. Whoever started this, is saying that lack of evidence proves jesus never existed/died/resurrected. If we had no evidence at all they would be correct, but we have a lot of other evidence - just not the missing evidence they want.

We may be in agreement here - I don't know.
I would say it like this: lack of evidence may not prove J never existed, but we are not justified in reaching the conclusion that J existed without sufficient evidence. So I guess the issue comes down to whether the evidence is sufficient. I guess we are agreeing.

[Rhinoqulous]

Gotta agree with ya lurker, that is one thing that drives me nuts about Bush.
Not Bush, the other morons. The answer is right under your nose so keep looking. :)
Scientologists?

[Con Man]

No, it's under your nose, so it's your mouth!

[snap crafter]

Oh snap, lurker just pulled an insult! This evidence you speak of, if it was convincing and not so subjective I believe people would believe in jesus, bow down in the middle of everything at the sudden burst of proof. sadly, an old book written by people with an agenda does not hard evidence make.

[Lurker]

No, it's under your nose, so it's your mouth!
Lighten up. I was having a little fun with my buddy Ten.

[Blod]

Why Do You Pick On Christians?

On this side of the globe we pick on Muslims too, but they get angry quicker. They're funnier tho, maybe the funniest. Where else would you hear that "God" aka All-llah has stamped every human heart with his trademark :lol:

http://ravingatheist.com/forum/img/uploads/heart.jpg

- or that the Quran does already tell about aliens :D

[Jennifer]

I pick on Christians because I can.

[Blindwatchmaker]

I'm not Christo specific. Its all creationists for me! Charge!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[calpurnpiso]

Besides being the great cop out, faith is always inversely proportional to knowledge and information. The more faith ( a psychosis induced delusional feeling where the possibility of hope in the irrational is accepted as a reality) a person has the more ignorant this person is. Acquiring knowledge/information will eliminate faith-triggers in healthy brains.......and about the insane, well, abundance of faith induces their insecure acceptance of idiotic religious beliefs as a reality!...:)

[calpurnpiso]

What would we atheists do without the Christ-psychotics? They are the humor of humanity and are clowns par excellence. After all, those laughter inducing folks do not 'think" with their brains but rather use their pumps (hearts) to do this.....they keep this going in the finest of Egyptian traditions where the Abrahamic-psychosis ( a parent neurosis) stole its delusional mythologies from about 3,315 years ago. AHHH...didn't Allah, the Islamic version of Abrahamic-psychosis stamped this organ with Arabic characters taken from the Qu'ran?.....and there are more signs of this invisible friend that "prooves" its existence no?....:lol: :lol:

[ghoulslime]

What would we atheists do without the Christ-psychotics? They are the humor of humanity and are clowns par excellence. After all, those laughter inducing folks do not 'think" with their brains but rather use their pumps (hearts) to do this.....they keep this going in the finest of Egyptian traditions where the Abrahamic-psychosis ( a parent neurosis) stole its delusional mythologies from about 3,315 years ago. AHHH...didn't Allah, the Islamic version of Abrahamic-psychosis stamped this organ with Arabic characters taken from the Qu'ran?.....and there are more signs of this invisible friend that "prooves" its existence no?....:lol: :lol:
So true! In fact, the crack of my ass very much resembles a crescent moon. It must be a sign from Allah! :D

[Amazonis]

So true! In fact, the crack of my ass very much resembles a crescent moon. It must be a sign from Allah! :D
All kneel before the mighty arse of Ghoulslime! :lol:

[Blindwatchmaker]

Besides being the great cop out, faith is always inversely proportional to knowledge and information. The more faith ( a psychosis induced delusional feeling where the possibility of hope in the irrational is accepted as a reality) a person has the more ignorant this person is. Acquiring knowledge/information will eliminate faith-triggers in healthy brains.......and about the insane, well, abundance of faith induces their insecure acceptance of idiotic religious beliefs as a reality!...:)
Oh, agreed. The entire concept of faith can be reduced down to the supposition that because there are things about ourselves, life and the universe we don't fully understand, it MUST therefore be the work of a deity.

The meme of faith is sunk.

As Freddie says 'God is dead!'

[Blindwatchmaker]

What would we atheists do without the Christ-psychotics? They are the humor of humanity and are clowns par excellence. After all, those laughter inducing folks do not 'think" with their brains but rather use their pumps (hearts) to do this.....they keep this going in the finest of Egyptian traditions where the Abrahamic-psychosis ( a parent neurosis) stole its delusional mythologies from about 3,315 years ago. AHHH...didn't Allah, the Islamic version of Abrahamic-psychosis stamped this organ with Arabic characters taken from the Qu'ran?.....and there are more signs of this invisible friend that "prooves" its existence no?....:lol: :lol:
The greatest comedy is the rearguard action they are fighting in relation to their faith - Intelligent Deisgn!

It could be a Monty Python Sketch!

[ghoulslime]

What would we atheists do without the Christ-psychotics? They are the humor of humanity and are clowns par excellence. After all, those laughter inducing folks do not 'think" with their brains but rather use their pumps (hearts) to do this.....they keep this going in the finest of Egyptian traditions where the Abrahamic-psychosis ( a parent neurosis) stole its delusional mythologies from about 3,315 years ago. AHHH...didn't Allah, the Islamic version of Abrahamic-psychosis stamped this organ with Arabic characters taken from the Qu'ran?.....and there are more signs of this invisible friend that "prooves" its existence no?....:lol: :lol:
The greatest comedy is the rearguard action they are fighting in relation to their faith - Intelligent Deisgn!

It could be a Monty Python Sketch!
I wish to complain about this dinosaur!

Oh yes, the Tyrannosaurus Rex, made by God in 1842... What's, ah... W-what's wrong with it?

I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. It's dead, that's what's wrong with it.

No, no, 'e's ah... he's resting.

[Blindwatchmaker]

I wish to complain about this dinosaur!

Oh yes, the Tyrannosaurus Rex, made by God in 1842... What's, ah... W-what's wrong with it?

I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. It's dead, that's what's wrong with it.

No, no, 'e's ah... he's resting.

:lol::lol::lol:

"It's not resting sir, god is just fucking with you. Its gone into early hibernation!"

"That god, he's such a prankster!"


(RIP Bill Hicks!):D

[ghoulslime]

I wish to complain about this dinosaur!

Oh yes, the Tyrannosaurus Rex, made by God in 1842... What's, ah... W-what's wrong with it?

I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. It's dead, that's what's wrong with it.

No, no, 'e's ah... he's resting.

:lol::lol::lol:

"It's not resting sir, god is just fucking with you. Its gone into early hibernation!"

"That god, he's such a prankster!"


(RIP Bill Hicks!):D
:D