noah's ark claim

[Raiden936]

ok after seeing the picture of the so called "boat shaped" imprint in mt. ararratt. I took the opportunity using Google Earth to see it myself. I found the boat-shaped imprint but it wasnt too impressive. in fact, i went on to look at other mountains and found similar shape. dont believe me? use google earth.

[Paradox]

ok after seeing the picture of the so called "boat shaped" imprint in mt. ararratt. I took the opportunity using Google Earth to see it myself. I found the boat-shaped imprint but it wasnt too impressive. in fact, i went on to look at other mountains and found similar shape. dont believe me? use google earth.
Link?

[Choobus]

you no need link

ark is bullshit, that all you need know to understand raider post

noah made up bullshit

bible made up bullshit

choobus go now

[peepnklown]

I’ve seen the so-called ‘boat-shaped’ imprint and it looks like a rock formation. The Noah tale is fiction; it’s time to venture into adulthood.

[Raiden936]

ok after seeing the picture of the so called "boat shaped" imprint in mt. ararratt. I took the opportunity using Google Earth to see it myself. I found the boat-shaped imprint but it wasnt too impressive. in fact, i went on to look at other mountains and found similar shape. dont believe me? use google earth.
Link?
i said Google Earth

[Mog]

Yes, but it would be nice to get coordinates, for instance, a UFO is apparently here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=33409&ll=26.748651,-80.074550&spn=0.005622,0.007875&t=k&hl=en

or maybe its just a camera glitch. :D

[Raiden936]

39°42′ N 44°17′ E

[Choobus]

the claims on Noah's ark are not that different than thoseon the Mayflower. Just about every white mofo with a stick up their backside claims to have descended from some cunt on that boat, so eitherit was a Noah class cruise liner, it was full of horny motherfuckers, or there are a lot of bullshiters out there.

Hmmm, what could it be....

[Baphomet]

Ha, and christians have never tried to explain how noah could have possibly fit EVERY animal in the world on the ark.

[TheSnake]

Sure they have: http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i2/animals.asp

It's funny how creationists claim that only 16,000 animals were needed on the ark and all the present species evolved from those within a few thousand years, but at the same time, there's no evidence of new species evolving from other species.

[vsxd903s]

I read through some of this site. What a bunch of crap. It was frustrating just reading it.

[Baphomet]

Yeah, I can't believe they're trying to justify these myths.

I remember once seeing this thing on TV about how a bunch of scientists explained how it is possible that santa could be real. They went into great detail about analyzing population patterns, his flight route, and how it was possible that he used some "quantum reality morphing" technology stuff. (which explained why some children only see him in the blink of an eye)

What they did actually sounded a lot like what the christians are doing with the ark "First of all, Santa doesn't have to visit every household, only those that believe in him. And we must remember time zones..."

If you were to show that to a kid, that might enforce their beliefs, allthough it is bullshit. That is basically what the christians are doing here. Enforcing their beliefs with utter bullshit.

[SkepticalEd]

Ha, and christians have never tried to explain how noah could have possibly fit EVERY animal in the world on the ark.
Christians: Ever think that when jesus comes back, the last thing he'll ever want to see is a cross?

In addition to no evidence to support a Jesus, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that even if he existed, the Romans did NOT use a cross. Even the New Testament mentions other devices from which the alleged Jesus was attached to.

[SkepticalEd]

ok after seeing the picture of the so called "boat shaped" imprint in mt. ararratt. I took the opportunity using Google Earth to see it myself. I found the boat-shaped imprint but it wasnt too impressive. in fact, i went on to look at other mountains and found similar shape. dont believe me? use google earth.
There couldn't be an ark on Mt Ararat 'cause the jewish bible says "...the mountainS of Ararat." So, the real question should be: "Which mountain?" Additionally, there have been enough documentaries shown on TV that prove the impossibility of what some think is a real boat. Also, there was no world-wide flood! It was a localized event in the Mediterranean and, again, documentaries have shed enough light on this.

[kmisho]

That boat shape has been seen close up. It is sort of a hull shaped outcropping of rock...

[Revmonkeyboy]

Yes the whole flood myth, is just that, a myth. The jews stole the story from the babylonians, made a few changes to make themselves feel smug. There is no boat on a mountain! There are just some rocks sitting there wishing they could get a little privacy. I hope a few stupid christians get frostbite climbing up to visit the rocks that they think are a magic boat. It would be a nice end to the story. Idiots find frozen idiots on mountain next to a jumble of rocks, then get frostbite and freeze too. We would eventually be able to see the pile of frozen believers next to the rock from space. I would laugh my ass off.

I would just about buy them the gps gear and a map as a donation to the cause. lol

Revmonkey

[ProveIt]

Christians: Ever think that when jesus comes back, the last thing he'll ever want to see is a cross?
Fkkin funniest thing this guy ever said... HAhahahaha :lol::lol::lol:

[ProveIt]

I'm having issues with getting that google earth junk to work... (work and all). But I did browse through this site a bit. Seems like just someones well compiled opinion. Is it considered creationistic? (I'm still new to the 'creationist' thing) http://members.fortunecity.com/brianshouse/briansannex/index.html

[Baphomet]

ProveIt wrote:
SkepticalEd wrote:

Christians: Ever think that when jesus comes back, the last thing he'll ever want to see is a cross?
Fkkin funniest thing this guy ever said... HAhahahaha :lol::lol::lol:
Uh... actually, he was talking about my sig.

[ProveIt]

ProveIt wrote:
SkepticalEd wrote:

Christians: Ever think that when jesus comes back, the last thing he'll ever want to see is a cross?
Fkkin funniest thing this guy ever said... HAhahahaha :lol::lol::lol:
Uh... actually, he was talking about my sig.
Damn it... I knew I was giving him too much credit...

I like your quote...lol It amazes me that the babble can say 'thou shalt not worship an idol' and yet there are crosses for miles... Really I don't get the whole let's look at a dead guy on a cross thing anyway... Just a bit morbid for me...

[RenaissanceMan]

I am continually stunned by these people that call themselves scientists, then set out to find (Or fabricate) evidence to support a conclusion that they have already made.

The story of Noah's Ark is so preposterous to begin with... and then you have to consider how those poor animals were able to get to their proper place on the globe.

So... which of Noah's sons did the Native American Indians descend from? How did the Kiwis (Who cannot swim or fly) get to New Zealand? I built a bookcase in shop class, it took me months! How the hell did Noah and 3 kids build a 450 foot Ark??? That would require hundreds of thousands of man-hours.

[JesusChrist]

I am continually stunned by these people that call themselves scientists, then set out to find (Or fabricate) evidence to support a conclusion that they have already made.

The story of Noah's Ark is so preposterous to begin with... and then you have to consider how those poor animals were able to get to their proper place on the globe.

So... which of Noah's sons did the Native American Indians descend from? How did the Kiwis (Who cannot swim or fly) get to New Zealand? I built a bookcase in shop class, it took me months! How the hell did Noah and 3 kids build a 450 foot Ark??? That would require hundreds of thousands of man-hours.
Through the power of the Lord, my son.



:rolleyes:

[Vipsta]

I’ve seen the so-called ‘boat-shaped’ imprint and it looks like a rock formation. The Noah tale is fiction; it’s time to venture into adulthood.
...Because I always ask a single, balding, unemployed prick about geological formations.

[GodlessHeathen]

I’ve seen the so-called ‘boat-shaped’ imprint and it looks like a rock formation. The Noah tale is fiction; it’s time to venture into adulthood.
...Because I always ask a single, balding, unemployed prick about geological formations.
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[baconeatingatheistjew]

My latest blog entry:

Wednesday, October 12, 2005

ARK RANT
How can anyone and I mean anyone believe in the Great Flood and Noah's Ark?
There are approximately 4500 species of mammals on this earth right now, 3,500 amphibian species, 5,550 hundred reptiles, 10,000 species of birds(oh wait, birds could have flown around until they needed to rest and perch on the Ark, well, except ostriches and penguins and other flightless fowl), and over 1 million species of insects.
Oh yeah, let's multiply all these guys by two (they needed to reproduce to keep their lines going). Of course if Noah was smart he would have only taken pregnant females. I don't what is worse to take care: a pregnant crocodile or a couple of sex hungry crocs(wait, there are more than one species of crocs. I know this because I watch the Crocodile Hunter).
Noah must have been one heck of a biologist and animal trainer to be able to find all these animal species and then lure them on the Ark. Did he tranq hippos, lions, and elephants? How did he handle the skunk? It is pretty tought to catch a few of the animals that exist today. How do you catch a croc, or a hippo, or a giraffe for that matter? I'm cracking up writing this.
The Ark had to be massive to handle all this, and what about the poop and urine from just the mammals alone? Don't they have to go at least once a day? Yech.
And I know they had 8 people to maintain all these animals. Let's say they fed them twice a day. For the mammals alone, that would be 18,000 meals each day. It is humanly impossible to do work that hard. That is over 2,000 meals given out by each human on the Ark every day for mammals alone. Where did they keep the food?
And lets not forget about strict diets. Again, Noah had to have vast knowledge of every animals diets. Lots of these animals require certain types of foods to live, like the Koala for example. And we have to assume that no animals died, or they wouldn't be around today. So they must have had impeccable care and they had to have eaten their food and be disease free.
Now for the good part. Let's say the Ark was built in Asia, Africa, or Europe. Where are the kangaroo bones from kangaroos who lived prior to the flood assuming Noah let them off in Australia after the storm?
And people believe this crap.

http://baconeatingatheistjew.blogspot.com/

[RenaissanceMan]

Well, some of the animals died.... Noah was to bring 7 of each clean animal, and 2 of each unclean one.

Clean Animal: Woo! More of us than of you!
Unclean animal: That's because we're not food, you idiot!
Clean animal: Oh crap.

The BEST part is that ALL the freaking animals live right by where the ark is being built. Uhhhh...
Next! We got what? 4 adult males? Building a 450 foot wooden boat! You ever try to build a boat? Good luck building a 450 foot boat without thousands of people and a shipyard.

So! Why do people believe it? Follow the reasoning:

1) I get to live forever if I believe the Bible!
2) The bible contains clearly impossible myths.
3) I get to live forever if I believe in the Bible!
4) God made the impossible myths happen!

[bUCKET__]

If a god could make the whole fucking earth flood of course he could make all the animals fit on an ark and keep them nourished and happy. Then afterwards (to play a joke on the stupid atheists) he should be able to hide all evidence of it ever happening! What a brilliant God!

[baconeatingatheistjew]

Here is what I got from a Christian friend who read my blog. Are these people for real? This is would be a hilarious satire page if 50% of Americans didn't believe it was the truth:

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html

[Jennifer]

And now the Watch Tower (http://quotes.watchtower.ca/pictures.htm) is online....'case you've never gotten a copy.

[Philboid Studge]

Thanks, Jennifer. I love that page! Classic, apocalyptic religious "art." If ever a group organized itself around the concept of fear, it's them crazy Holy Jumpers. Every time I go to Brooklyn and see the Watchtower sign, I wonder what new terror tactics are being hatched to increase the herd ...


http://ravingatheist.com/forum/img/uploads/1982_live_forever_9_large.jpg

[StillSurviving]

Here is what I got from a Christian friend who read my blog. Are these people for real? This is would be a hilarious satire page if 50% of Americans didn't believe it was the truth:

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html
They explain away huge problems with "God did it" and then say science allows for the possibility that the ark myth is true. Godidiots for sure!

[Baphomet]

If the flood myth is true...

That means the babylonians are correct!
It was ENKI, who saved us, not god!
After all, why would the god (yahweh) who was trying to destroy humanity, save it? No no, my friends, the Old gods were trying to kill us, but our father Enki (enemy of the gods trying to kill us) saved us...

Interesting to note that Enki's symbol was the serpent... and Enki was against the flood bringers. Would that mean... Satan saved us?

[Baphomet]

... oh yes, and after the flood, god made a rainbow...

which is essentially a frown. god's frown?

[There Is]

http://quotes.watchtower.ca/scans/1984_wt_sep_15_6_large.jpg

Look, more religious terrorism. Looks alot like an Al Queda ad :rolleyes:

So the next terrorist attack will come from the Christ myth, eh? tisk tisk... :P

http://quotes.watchtower.ca/pictures.htm

Replace the sceptor with a lightning bolt, and we're living back in Roman times.

The above image has been made possible thanks to propaganda ministries ;)

[ProveIt]

... oh yes, and after the flood, god made a rainbow...

which is essentially a frown. god's frown?
Aren't rainbows circular? You just can't see the whole thing? Some sort of optical illusion?

[GaryM]

From Wikipedia:

"A rainbow does not actually exist at a location in the sky, but is an optical phenomenon whose apparent position depends on the observer's location. All raindrops refract and reflect the sunlight in the same way, but only the light from some raindrops reaches the observer's eye. These raindrops are perceived to constitute the rainbow by that observer. Its position is always in the opposite direction of the sun with respect to the observer, and the interior is actually a magnified image of the sun, which can be seen to be slightly brighter than the exterior. The bow is centred on the shadow of the observer's head, or more exactly at the antisolar point (which is below the horizon during the daytime), appearing at an angle of approximately 40°–42° to the line between the observer's head and its shadow (this means that if the sun is higher than 42° the rainbow is below the horizon and cannot be seen unless the observer is at the top of a mountain or a similar vantage point). Similarly it is difficult to photograph the complete arc of a rainbow, which would require an angle of view of 84°. For a 35 mm camera, a lens with a focal length of 19 mm or less would be required, whilst most photographers are only likely to have a 28 mm wide-angle lens. From an aeroplane one has the opportunity to see the whole circle of the rainbow, with the plane's shadow in the centre."

[calpurnpiso]

http://quotes.watchtower.ca/scans/1984_wt_sep_15_6_large.jpg

Look, more religious terrorism. Looks alot like an Al Queda ad :rolleyes:

So the next terrorist attack will come from the Christ myth, eh? tisk tisk... :P

http://quotes.watchtower.ca/pictures.htm

Replace the sceptor with a lightning bolt, and we're living back in Roman times.

The above image has been made possible thanks to propaganda ministries ;)
Well, WE ARE living in Roman times, except the political party of the Optimates is called Republican. The party of the plebes ( populous) is called the Democratic party. The act of presenting testimony in court swearing to tell the TRUTH by placing one's hand on the SACK that holds one's SEED DNA, ( Testis), has been replaced by the placing of one's hand in the largest compilation of DELUSIONAL LIES ever told, called the babble. The cult of Divus Iulius has been replaced by the cult of Jesus. The Flamines ( priests) have been replaced by the various mentally ill masters of delusions aka, priests, ministers, shamans, rabbi, imans, and rest of believers in irrational delusions to be fact. The 300+ senators have been reduced to 100. The Roman Forum has been replaced by the Capitol buildings, its temples honoring Divus Iulius ( assasinated god and savior) and other gods have been replaced by the Lincoln memorial, Jefferson memorial etc. The temple of Priapus with it Egyptian obelisk, has been replaced by the Washingtom monument. The ETERNAL flame of VEsta attended by the 6 vestal virgins has been replaced by the monument to the unknown soldier and its eternal flame. The palatine hill, residence of the Emperors have been replaced by the White House grounds, the head of the senate has been replaced by the POTUS. The Praetorian guard has been replaced by the Secret Service. The Roman emperor Lictors (immediate body guards carrying the fasces-Ax and bundle of rods) has been replaced by the military men accompanying the POTUS.
The 12 tablets of the Law, have been replaced by the Constitution. The STARS a top of Caesar's and generals heads, symbol of protection by the goddess VENUS GENETRIX are used today as symbol of rank. The Eagles and standarts representing Rome have been replaced by the FLAGG (the stars symbolizing divine protection), the Seal of the POTUS and others offices. The legions with their contubernium, centuries etc, have been replaced by divisions, platoons etc.....and I can go on and on and on...

The more things change, the more they remain the same....If it weren't for Christ-psychosis. Rome would have NOT desintegrated, the library of Alexandria still would be with us ( rebuilt after earthquakes of course), the holocaust, rape of Americas and rest of genocide brought about by the mental illness of Christianity, would have never happened, mankind would have landed on the moon over 1000 years ago and the year today would be ( as it is for all Romans) 2,758 auc. ( Ab urbe condita= after the foundation of the city of Rome).......AHHH, how nice it would be, not having boring stadiums with grown men playing puerile games with balls, or stupid bullfight rings...instead we would have stadiums were Death Row immates ( rapists, psychopathic killers found guilty by DNA) from prisons around the country would fight each other to death to entertain us. Their crimes and mutilated victims would be displayed on big screens above the ring, thus no compassion would be felt by the viewer spoling the punishment constest.....

AHHH..one could watch the Sunday Punishment Constest Games from one of our colonies in MArs by simply closing one's eyes, letting the BioChipVision implants do their work, making us feel we are there in person!....:)

[RenaissanceMan]

So, I have a question.

Noah and his boys sure went through a lot of effort... Building the 450 foot boat out of wood, letting the animals in... watching over them as they hibernated during the voyage, etc.

Why did he do all this? Didn't he KNOW he was going to rot in hell anyway because he didn't accept Jesus as his saviour? It's like, "Dude! Think! You KNOW god exists... you built the boat he told you to build! What's stopping you from accepting Jesus as your lord? Do you WANT to go to hell?"

Some people... you wave the truth in front of their face... and they still choose hell. I'll try to pray for Noah tonight.

[Choobus]

My theory is that he didn't get any message from god, he just wanted a floating bestiality sex barge.

[RenaissanceMan]

I don't think so, Choobus... While that theory is admirable, you forget that the animals were led to the ark... Noah didn't have to go catch them. This demonstrates divine intervention. Not to mention the ark itself... a 450 foot wooden boat built by 4 amateurs would NEED the will of god to keep it afloat.

[Choobus]

He could have used a bucket of KFC to lure the animals onto the boat

[RenaissanceMan]

You know as well as I that Koala bears only eat eucalytus leaves. Fortunately, a eucalyptus tree was in Noah's back yard, right by the salmon stream the grizzly bears hunted in. Wow, what were the odds of that? Noah should have bought lottery tickets.

[Tenspace]

He could have used a bucket of KFC to lure the animals onto the boat
And then they could use it to bail out the boat - in case God missed any holes.

[Baphomet]

And wouldn't there have to be a lot of incest if only noah and his family survived?

[There Is]

http://quotes.watchtower.ca/scans/1984_wt_sep_15_6_large.jpg

Look, more religious terrorism. Looks alot like an Al Queda ad :rolleyes:

So the next terrorist attack will come from the Christ myth, eh? tisk tisk... :P

http://quotes.watchtower.ca/pictures.htm

Replace the sceptor with a lightning bolt, and we're living back in Roman times.

The above image has been made possible thanks to propaganda ministries ;)
Well, WE ARE living in Roman times, except the political party of the Optimates is called Republican. The party of the plebes ( populous) is called the Democratic party. The act of presenting testimony in court swearing to tell the TRUTH by placing one's hand on the SACK that holds one's SEED DNA, ( Testis), has been replaced by the placing of one's hand in the largest compilation of DELUSIONAL LIES ever told, called the babble. The cult of Divus Iulius has been replaced by the cult of Jesus. The Flamines ( priests) have been replaced by the various mentally ill masters of delusions aka, priests, ministers, shamans, rabbi, imans, and rest of believers in irrational delusions to be fact. The 300+ senators have been reduced to 100. The Roman Forum has been replaced by the Capitol buildings, its temples honoring Divus Iulius ( assasinated god and savior) and other gods have been replaced by the Lincoln memorial, Jefferson memorial etc. The temple of Priapus with it Egyptian obelisk, has been replaced by the Washingtom monument. The ETERNAL flame of VEsta attended by the 6 vestal virgins has been replaced by the monument to the unknown soldier and its eternal flame. The palatine hill, residence of the Emperors have been replaced by the White House grounds, the head of the senate has been replaced by the POTUS. The Praetorian guard has been replaced by the Secret Service. The Roman emperor Lictors (immediate body guards carrying the fasces-Ax and bundle of rods) has been replaced by the military men accompanying the POTUS.
The 12 tablets of the Law, have been replaced by the Constitution. The STARS a top of Caesar's and generals heads, symbol of protection by the goddess VENUS GENETRIX are used today as symbol of rank. The Eagles and standarts representing Rome have been replaced by the FLAGG (the stars symbolizing divine protection), the Seal of the POTUS and others offices. The legions with their contubernium, centuries etc, have been replaced by divisions, platoons etc.....and I can go on and on and on...

The more things change, the more they remain the same....If it weren't for Christ-psychosis. Rome would have NOT desintegrated, the library of Alexandria still would be with us ( rebuilt after earthquakes of course), the holocaust, rape of Americas and rest of genocide brought about by the mental illness of Christianity, would have never happened, mankind would have landed on the moon over 1000 years ago and the year today would be ( as it is for all Romans) 2,758 auc. ( Ab urbe condita= after the foundation of the city of Rome).......AHHH, how nice it would be, not having boring stadiums with grown men playing puerile games with balls, or stupid bullfight rings...instead we would have stadiums were Death Row immates ( rapists, psychopathic killers found guilty by DNA) from prisons around the country would fight each other to death to entertain us. Their crimes and mutilated victims would be displayed on big screens above the ring, thus no compassion would be felt by the viewer spoling the punishment constest.....

AHHH..one could watch the Sunday Punishment Constest Games from one of our colonies in MArs by simply closing one's eyes, letting the BioChipVision implants do their work, making us feel we are there in person!....:)
Except for the bloodied stadium fights, where I'd just prefer RobotJox, but only because I don't think all such criminals deserve the pseudo-hero status prize given to many current altheletes, it all sounds quite interesting

You bring up many good historical points. Your ideas on Rome are pretty cool. I hear there's a computer game in the works that deals with the notion of what would have happened had the Epicurean form of naturalist thought triumphed. Appropriately enough, I think it's titled Rome.

Rational thinkers must work double time, not only to maintain truth, but to quell the absurd destructive passions of illogical people ;)

[RenaissanceMan]

And wouldn't there have to be a lot of incest if only noah and his family survived?
Sure, but they were going to hell anyway, so what did that matter?

[Tenspace]

And wouldn't there have to be a lot of incest if only noah and his family survived?
Four mating pairs... well three, really. Noah just sat around naked and got drunk.

Yeah, I'd say they were kissing cousins. Luckily, lethal mutations from cousins are rare. Otherwise we'd all look like that kid in Deliverance.

[Choobus]

have you seen the european royals? fucking freaks the lot of them

[a different tim]

have you seen the european royals? fucking freaks the lot of them
This is totally true, speaking as a Brit. Cromwell and the Jacobins were right on this issue.

Now, the ark.

1) As I understand it, the creationist explanation for stratification of the fossil record is that the most primitive animals drowned first in the flood. Which explains why the lower strata are all fish and amphibians........doh!

2) The ark on Ararat has many similarities to the face on Mars. Consider: they both look designed from one angle, they both look like piles of rocks from other angles, they are both (of course) subject to huge cover ups from the entire scientific community. All of which suggests tha god put the face on Mars. Maybe he tried to...er...save all the martian animals...in a giant, er, face. Or something. Suggestions from theists as to why God put the face on mars please.......

[Tenspace]

Hey tim, welcome. :) I've enjoyed your posts in the comments section.

For your reading enjoyment, and the possible answer to your question, visit this thread (http://ravingatheist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=667).

Tenspace

[Baphomet]

Noahs ark is essentially what happens when an old flood myth is stolen, revamped, and then later the christians take it for truth... even though it's a myth.

pagan: You stole many of our myths, but essentially, they're not true, just metaphors and myths
christian: No, they're real
pagan: but you stole them from us. We made them.
christian: Well, uh, you didn't know that they were real
pagan: they weren't, we just made them up!
christian: Well, they're ours now, we decide that they are real!

[ProveIt]

Aren't rainbows circular? You just can't see the whole thing? Some sort of optical illusion?
From Wikipedia:

"A rainbow does not actually exist at a location in the sky, but is an optical phenomenon whose apparent position depends on the observer's location. All raindrops refract and reflect the sunlight in the same way, but only the light from some raindrops reaches the observer's eye. These raindrops are perceived to constitute the rainbow by that observer. Its position is always in the opposite direction of the sun with respect to the observer, and the interior is actually a magnified image of the sun, which can be seen to be slightly brighter than the exterior. The bow is centred on the shadow of the observer's head, or more exactly at the antisolar point (which is below the horizon during the daytime), appearing at an angle of approximately 40°–42° to the line between the observer's head and its shadow (this means that if the sun is higher than 42° the rainbow is below the horizon and cannot be seen unless the observer is at the top of a mountain or a similar vantage point). Similarly it is difficult to photograph the complete arc of a rainbow, which would require an angle of view of 84°. For a 35 mm camera, a lens with a focal length of 19 mm or less would be required, whilst most photographers are only likely to have a 28 mm wide-angle lens. From an aeroplane one has the opportunity to see the whole circle of the rainbow, with the plane's shadow in the centre."
So... That was a yes, right... lol :P

[a different tim]

For your reading enjoyment, and the possible answer to your question, visit this thread (http://ravingatheist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=667).

Tenspace
Well, it certainly explains Prince Charles. But not the face, unless it's a snare of Satan, but in that case, why not the ark as well? And what kind of snare is it to put a bunch of rocks on Mars that, from one angle, look a bit like a face? I mean, who's our lord Beelzebub trying to snare here? And how? There are clearly many questions here.....

Also, I was disappointed that the chick tracts site was by a guy called Jack Chick, and not, as I hoped, tracts involving chicks.....maybe that would have answered Choobus's ongoing quest for Christian anal.

And on the baptising muslims (http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/Muslim.jpg) link (unless they're drowning them or something), why is there what appears to be a giant squid tentacle in front of the "Jesus Christ Coming Soon" sign? Did Jesus die nailed to a squid? It would make The Passion Of The Christ more entertaining, that's for sure. I remember looking at the trailer and thinking "what that movie needs is a giant squid attack".

There's a whole can of worms on that thread. But I will get to the bottom of it. Oh yes.

[Rat Bastard]

Aren't rainbows circular? You just can't see the whole thing? Some sort of optical illusion?
From Wikipedia:

"A rainbow does not actually exist at a location in the sky, but is an optical phenomenon whose apparent position depends on the observer's location. All raindrops refract and reflect the sunlight in the same way, but only the light from some raindrops reaches the observer's eye. These raindrops are perceived to constitute the rainbow by that observer. Its position is always in the opposite direction of the sun with respect to the observer, and the interior is actually a magnified image of the sun, which can be seen to be slightly brighter than the exterior. The bow is centred on the shadow of the observer's head, or more exactly at the antisolar point (which is below the horizon during the daytime), appearing at an angle of approximately 40°–42° to the line between the observer's head and its shadow (this means that if the sun is higher than 42° the rainbow is below the horizon and cannot be seen unless the observer is at the top of a mountain or a similar vantage point). Similarly it is difficult to photograph the complete arc of a rainbow, which would require an angle of view of 84°. For a 35 mm camera, a lens with a focal length of 19 mm or less would be required, whilst most photographers are only likely to have a 28 mm wide-angle lens. From an aeroplane one has the opportunity to see the whole circle of the rainbow, with the plane's shadow in the centre."
So... That was a yes, right... lol :P
Gad, physics is so bitchin'... I remember this rainbow stuff from my college days. I have yet to see a rainbow from the sky. But then I don't like flying, knowing how imperfect I am, and have you ever seen the mechanics working on an airplane? I watched one fix my plane with a large pair of Channel-locks right before I had to fly 2200 miles in it. At least we hit the ground at the other end gently.

[Tenspace]

Aren't rainbows circular? You just can't see the whole thing? Some sort of optical illusion?
From Wikipedia:

"A rainbow does not actually exist at a location in the sky, but is an optical phenomenon whose apparent position depends on the observer's location. All raindrops refract and reflect the sunlight in the same way, but only the light from some raindrops reaches the observer's eye. These raindrops are perceived to constitute the rainbow by that observer. Its position is always in the opposite direction of the sun with respect to the observer, and the interior is actually a magnified image of the sun, which can be seen to be slightly brighter than the exterior. The bow is centred on the shadow of the observer's head, or more exactly at the antisolar point (which is below the horizon during the daytime), appearing at an angle of approximately 40°–42° to the line between the observer's head and its shadow (this means that if the sun is higher than 42° the rainbow is below the horizon and cannot be seen unless the observer is at the top of a mountain or a similar vantage point). Similarly it is difficult to photograph the complete arc of a rainbow, which would require an angle of view of 84°. For a 35 mm camera, a lens with a focal length of 19 mm or less would be required, whilst most photographers are only likely to have a 28 mm wide-angle lens. From an aeroplane one has the opportunity to see the whole circle of the rainbow, with the plane's shadow in the centre."
So... That was a yes, right... lol :P
Gad, physics is so bitchin'... I remember this rainbow stuff from my college days. I have yet to see a rainbow from the sky. But then I don't like flying, knowing how imperfect I am, and have you ever seen the mechanics working on an airplane? I watched one fix my plane with a large pair of Channel-locks right before I had to fly 2200 miles in it. At least we hit the ground at the other end gently.
You've never seen a rainbow? Dude, you live in Florida! I see them about ten times a year. What part of the state are you in?

(All you need is rain in the distance and the sun at your back)

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ten...he was simply saying that he had not seen a rainbow whilst being in the air, he has seen them from gound level, just not while in an airplane or hot air balloon or any other flying device of the matter, although i wouldnt really trust being in a hot air balloon or hang glider in the middle of the rain.

[Tenspace]

ten...he was simply saying that he had not seen a rainbow whilst being in the air, he has seen them from gound level, just not while in an airplane or hot air balloon or any other flying device of the matter, although i wouldnt really trust being in a hot air balloon or hang glider in the middle of the rain.
Oh. Okay. I thought he meant ever. Now that re-read, I see. :)