Christianity: Death Cult Armageddon

[Baphomet]

It always fascinates me how when you look at it from an outside view, Christianity seems to be a strange cult centered on DEATH.

Let me explain:

We first see that god doesn't want people to have knowledge of good and evil. When they do become smart, they are given the curse of DEATH.

People in the old testament are required to give SACRIFICE of BLOOD to attone for sins. This makes no sense whatsoever. How can an animal with no soul take on the "sins" of someone else? No, yahweh aparently likes the BLOOD.

The yahweh of the old testament is a crazy, vengeful war monger. He contstanly orders whole tribes to be SLAIN. Men, women, children, elderly and all.

Many "mircales of god" involve striking people DEAD, or turning water into BLOOD!

Later, along comes jesus, who says you must "DIE in this life in order to get into heaven" and "Drink of my BLOOD!"

Christianities main symbol is a BLOOD soaked jesus being TORTURED.

Anything that gives pleasure is generally considered sinful by christians. Most christians think it is best to make their lives as strict and harsh as possible, hoping for better after DEATH, which is the key of their religion. Life to them means nothing, it's all what happens after.

If you look at things from this perspective, christianity looks like a bunch of crazed people waiting for DEATH and in the meantime, acting DEAD to this life, and trying to attone for sins using the BLOOD of their savior who saved them through DEATH!

It's a bunch of scary, crazy stuff if you ask me...

[Philboid Studge]

Baphomet, your posts are always delightfully informative. Keep 'em coming.

It is indeed a bloody tradition -- Flagellants, martyrs, even contemporary adherents to the death cult (Veritas wrote yesterday that God nailed to a cross was proof of His perfect love for us. The very idea that people think that way makes me queasy.)

Transubstantiation: Jesus to disciples: 'Eat me'

[Baphomet]

Philboid Studge wrote:

Baphomet, your posts are always delightfully informative. Keep 'em coming.

It is indeed a bloody tradition -- Flagellants, martyrs, even contemporary adherents to the death cult (Veritas wrote yesterday that God nailed to a cross was proof of His perfect love for us. The very idea that people think that way makes me queasy.)

Transubstantiation: Jesus to disciples: 'Eat me'
Thank you. Heh heh, I love that view on what jesus is really telling his disciples: Eat Me. Heheh.

Anyways, yes, christianity seems very anti life. You can't have sex unless it's to make babies, and you can't have sex before marrige (even though it's fun... christianity also seems to be anti-fun)... not to mention that back in bible times, the average marriage age was about 13... maybe I could have been a virgin until marriage back then... but now, when the average marriage age is much higher... no way!

I mean, just look at the seven deadly sins... pride? What, we can't be happy for our accomplishments?

But seriously, why is christianity so anti life and anti fun? All the focus is on not enjoying this life so you will enjoy the after-death... what?

I've always wondered... is there sex in heaven? Is lust gone? Are you... castrated?

[Philboid Studge]

Speaking of bloody atrocities, what of the Inquisition? Here the official organ of Christendom -- the Holy Church -- implemented torture as a matter of policy for centuries. Let's root out heretics by torturing people until they confess to heresy, then we'll kill them! And of course, the blood-soaked popes took their cue from the OT, Deuteronomy if I'm not mistaken. It's true what you say: they were attempting to appease a vengeful god with their sanguinary sacrifices.

[Baphomet]

Philboid Studge Wrote:

Speaking of bloody atrocities, what of the Inquisition? Here the official organ of Christendom -- the Holy Church -- implemented torture as a matter of policy for centuries. Let's root out heretics by torturing people until they confess to heresy, then we'll kill them! And of course, the blood-soaked popes took their cue from the OT, Deuteronomy if I'm not mistaken. It's true what you say: they were attempting to appease a vengeful god with their sanguinary sacrifices.
Yep, excellent point. How could I forget the inquistion? Of course, many christians will tell you "They were catholics... which aren't real christians..."
C'mon people! For the longest time, Catholics were the ONLY christians around!

But on to my other question...
Christians, is there sex in heaven?

[calpurnpiso]

One must realize the assasination of Iulius Caesar, who was a god, lord, savior, Pontifex Maximus (Latin=great builder of Bridges), a man that FORGAVE his enemies with his clementia, gave origin to the Christian tales. He, himself became ( since he already was Pontifex Maximus, Archiereus Megistus in Greek) became a resurrected god. In ancient times long names were shortened i,e the Spanish city of Caesar Augusta is known today as Saragoza, Mediolanum = Milan etc. The shortened version of Archiereus Megistus is Iesus Christos.

Caesar was burned in a sacred pyre while the Flamen Divus Iulius ( Caesar was viewed as a god while alive, his family ancestry originating from the goddess Venus Genetrix). As all gods, he also had a priest. His priest was Marcus Antonius. During the funeral oration Marcus Antonius was accompanied by an actor who was the voice of the god Caesar. Marcus narrated the MIRACLES the "god" had performed thus winning all of the battles. A wax/wood figure of Caesar was displayed on a cross shaped Tropaeum ( a tradition in all funeral of gods and heroes) covered by a red tunic of kings wearing his corona graminea ( grass crown of conquering hero/gods). This simulacrum, like a crucifix, was in a platform that rotated so all of the people of Rome could see it.

The word for burning/ palisade is cremo which eventually loosing its meaning became the cross and crucifixion!. Divus Iulius was assasinated by those he forgave after the battle of Pharsalus ( Brutus, Casius, and many senators) the 15th of March of 44 bce. A Comet appeared in the sky becoming the 'soul" of Caesar and consequently he was depicted afterwards in coins, monuments with a 5 bar in a shape of a fan above his head. This is amazingly similar to the Chi-Ro ( X and P) of Christ. It is also amazing that the Jews celebrate Passover the 15th of their month of Nisan ( March).

The gospels are actually narrating the life of Iulius Caesar as a play, where Jesus represents Caesar. The Head priest of god Ceasar, Mark Anthony, becomes Simon Peter. Pompei defeated by Caesar who also wanted to be Pontifex Maximus becomes John the Baptist. Pompei, like John the Baptist, was decapitated when he arrived in Egypt and the head presented in a silver plater to Ceasar. The beloved John the apostle ( the divine son taking the place of jesus) is actually Octavius Augustus ( Divi Filius).......

The original Christian Church is the Roman Catholic Church. It is of no wonder the Pontifex maximus (Pope) and the clergy follows the lithurgy including the clothing of the pagan cult of Divus Iulius! It is of no wonder the Christian church built ALL of his churches a top of Roman PAGAN temples, including the Vatican.

Christian have been worshiping a dead Roman emperor all along!...ROTFLMAO..:)

[Eva]

this is fascinating!
where do you get this stuff??????

[calpurnpiso]

this is fascinating!
where do you get this stuff??????
There is this scholar and professor of linguistics in Germany, that has been doing an investigative research on Christianity for 10 years. He has connected all of the dots and wrote a book early this year called Jesus was Caesar.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9059113969/002-6121588-9902424?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance

The book was translated into English this summer. I just got it a week ago and it is the most fascinating book ever. Tons of EVIDENCE with an immense bibliography. I have been doing research myself and traveled all over the world connecting the dots, between religious beliefs, psychoactive substances, biology, mental illness and the origin of Christianity! I knew Catholicism emulated and copied from Roman paganism and the Egyptian religion had created the Abrahamic religions. I knew the Roman emperors begun to be accepted as gods since Iulius Caesar. I knew about his temple and his cult....but I was blind to something so OBVIOUS! Herr Carotta connected ALL of the dots. The man is brilliant!...and to top it all HBO has a historical series called ROME. Which is about Iulius Caesar!


I've had read about half this book and study it carefully. Though I speak Latin, I do not know Greek which is essential to get to the nitty gritty of the Christian tales. Herr Carotta explains everything in minute detail doing excellent comparisons. The EVIDENCE is overwhelming and it was there all along in the museums of Europe in front of my face and I had not notice it!!

Now, everything makes sense. I'm 100% certain the Roman civil war between the Optimates ( republican upper classes) and Popularis ( liberal democrats, poor people) and Iulius Caesar assasination originated the Jesus tales and Christianity! The most horrendous thing that ever happen ( equivalent to the Kennedy assasination viewed as a god and then some ) in that time was the killing of Caesar. All of the Roman historians of that time TALK about this event in their writings. We still have them!...but then, we have this Jewish Carpenter that resurrected, performed miracles, raised the dead, etc and NOBODY mentions him!..and Christians are extactic when there are few sentences that mention him!! Alas, there is NOTHING about this man that did such amazing feats. Historians do not mention him. Roman emperors do not mention him, specially if he had resurrected! There is NO EVIDENCE, of Jesus anywere, even in the time capsule cities of pompeii, Herculaneum, Oplontis and Stabiae buried by Vesuvius the 24th of August of 79 ce...Nothing, zero,.

The interesting thing is that Lucius Calpurnius Piso Cesoninus, father in law of Caesar was an EPICUREAN, like Caesar and the intellectuals of the time. This mean they were atheists!, This philosophy of doing good to others obtaining pleasure for the mind and body in MODERATION used the gods as the Jews of today do! The vast majority of Jews are atheists, but they use the religious beliefs as a tradition not as a divine truth. I follow this philosophy and though I'm an atheist, I have a lararium where the household gods are.! It entertains the mind by occasionally visiting these fantasies.

Now, everthing makes sense. If I had only known Greek!!..I would have arrived at the same conclusion.
When the news media gets hold of this, Christians are going to be laughed out of town...

If you know your babble and Roman history...you'll love this investigative report!....:)

[PanAtheist]

Welcome back Cal!
Have you had your nose stuck in a book or something?

I suggest you do a thread dedicated to the Julius=Jesus ideas.
As I would like to question you on them, without overloading this thread.

[calpurnpiso]

Welcome back Cal!
Have you had your nose stuck in a book or something?

I suggest you do a thread dedicated to the Julius=Jesus ideas.
As I would like to question you on them, without overloading this thread.
Thanks!!....well, I was traveling, then doing my jewelry, then I got Carotta's book Jesus was Caesar..........I feel, I'm getting infected with my own version of religious psychosis, since I've not got too much sleep...of course while drinking Grolsch on the hot tub I found myself talking to my pitch black lab-weiler Teufel ( devil)...AHHH...such meaningful philosophical conversations and he just nods looking at me with such loving eyes......:)

[Tenspace]

Welcome back Cal!
Have you had your nose stuck in a book or something?

I suggest you do a thread dedicated to the Julius=Jesus ideas.
As I would like to question you on them, without overloading this thread.
Thanks!!....well, I was traveling, then doing my jewelry, then I got Carotta's book Jesus was Caesar..........I feel, I'm getting infected with my own version of religious psychosis, since I've not got too much sleep...of course while drinking Grolsch on the hot tub I found myself talking to my pitch black lab-weiler Teufel ( devil)...AHHH...such meaningful philosophical conversations and he just nods looking at me with such loving eyes......:)
You're lucky. My dog won't shut up about Kierkegaardian Existentialism. Try to relax by the pool, and it's all Yap Yap Despair Yap Yap Alienation. I have to put on Animal Planet to shut him up. Unless Animal Cops is on... that gets him going on his socialism rant.

[ghoulslime]

Welcome back Cal!
Have you had your nose stuck in a book or something?

I suggest you do a thread dedicated to the Julius=Jesus ideas.
As I would like to question you on them, without overloading this thread.
Thanks!!....well, I was traveling, then doing my jewelry, then I got Carotta's book Jesus was Caesar..........I feel, I'm getting infected with my own version of religious psychosis, since I've not got too much sleep...of course while drinking Grolsch on the hot tub I found myself talking to my pitch black lab-weiler Teufel ( devil)...AHHH...such meaningful philosophical conversations and he just nods looking at me with such loving eyes......:)
You're lucky. My dog won't shut up about Kierkegaardian Existentialism. Try to relax by the pool, and it's all Yap Yap Despair Yap Yap Alienation. I have to put on Animal Planet to shut him up. Unless Animal Cops is on... that gets him going on his socialism rant.
I feel your pain. My rabbit goes on and on about buddhism.

"Being mindful of suffering
caused by careless or malicious speech,
we are determined to use words
to heal the wounds of misunderstanding,
anger, hate, and fear."

Yeah. Yeah. Shut the fuck up and eat your goddamn carrots!

[Philboid Studge]

of course while drinking Grolsch on the hot tub I found myself talking to my pitch black lab-weiler Teufel ( devil)...AHHH...such meaningful philosophical conversations and he just nods looking at me with such loving eyes......
Part of me wants to be a fly on that wall, but only if I can poke all my eyes out first. I have no doubt that Teufel knows more about Xian and proto-Xian history than all our sorry theists put together.

[Baphomet]

I still want to know what christians think: Is there sex in heaven?

[GodlessHeathen]

I still want to know what christians think: Is there sex in heaven?
I'm sure they don't think there is. Remember - sex is filthy, ugly, and sinful, and should only be shared with someone that you love enough to marry.

[Baphomet]

I suppose the desire for sex is gone... as it was only there "to make babies" as christians think.

But still... what about all the other stuff? I mean, do you weep over loved ones that went to hell, or does jesus erase your memory (I had a pastor who actually thought that)???

Any ideas? Anyone?