Challange to Theists

[UnknownUser]

Here is my Challange to theists:
Bring forth conclusive proof of you deity/entity/god without:
1)Using any sort of religious propaganda (aka: the bible, quean, ect...)
2)Using any psudo-science or anything that can not be backed up by evidence
3)Using any arguments confirming a negative( such as "Evolution isnt perfect therefore god must exist")
4)Using any name calling or profanity.

I leave this thread open to all who want to jump in, so long as it is clean and no spamming.....

[Chiot Vulgaire]

I don't think they can do it. They're just too damn worked up in trying to appease pimp daddy jesus.

whoops, I broke one of the rules. Does it not count against me since I'm not a xtian or a theist anyway?

[RenaissanceMan]

You can't 'prove' god exists, period. As such, the only proof rotates around the circular "God must exist, therefore he does" argument.

[Baphomet]

RenaissanceMan wrote

You can't 'prove' god exists, period. As such, the only proof rotates around the circular "God must exist, therefore he does" argument.
Well, you are correct in that you can't prove a universal negative... however, I would like to add something to your wonderful comment on logic (which many theist lack)...

You can prove something Does Not exists if the facts contradict themselves. For example, if I tell you the president is a lawn gnome living in my attic, and you later discover I do not have an attic, then you can conclude that the president is not a lawn gnome in my attic: as I don't have an attic.

Likewise, if a christian tells you that a god with three "omni" qualities exists, then tells you evil exists, you can conclude they are lying. An omni god cannot exists if there is evil in the world anymore than a ten sided triangle can exist.

So yes, christians may tell you "you can't prove god doesn't exist," but actually, yes you can: the the proported facts contradict.

[RenaissanceMan]

RenaissanceMan wrote

You can't 'prove' god exists, period. As such, the only proof rotates around the circular "God must exist, therefore he does" argument.
Well, you are correct in that you can't prove a universal negative... however, I would like to add something to your wonderful comment on logic (which many theist lack)...

You can prove something Does Not exists if the facts contradict themselves. For example, if I tell you the president is a lawn gnome living in my attic, and you later discover I do not have an attic, then you can conclude that the president is not a lawn gnome in my attic: as I don't have an attic.

Likewise, if a christian tells you that a god with three "omni" qualities exists, then tells you evil exists, you can conclude they are lying. An omni god cannot exists if there is evil in the world anymore than a ten sided triangle can exist.

So yes, christians may tell you "you can't prove god doesn't exist," but actually, yes you can: the the proported facts contradict.
Actually, all you would have proven is that the indicated christian is stupid or confused (Or a combo platter of both). Let's face it. What facts do christians actually use? unsubstantiated concepts twisted from an ancient tome are generally not regarded as fact by thinking people.

[UnknownUser]

Exactly the point of my challange, they can not challange science with made up psudo-logic...Also i just finished reading a paper on how the universe could create itslef so im waiting for that whole "How did we get here" and "What came before the big-bang" argument.....

[calpurnpiso]

RenaissanceMan wrote

You can't 'prove' god exists, period. As such, the only proof rotates around the circular "God must exist, therefore he does" argument.
Well, you are correct in that you can't prove a universal negative... however, I would like to add something to your wonderful comment on logic (which many theist lack)...

You can prove something Does Not exists if the facts contradict themselves. For example, if I tell you the president is a lawn gnome living in my attic, and you later discover I do not have an attic, then you can conclude that the president is not a lawn gnome in my attic: as I don't have an attic.

Likewise, if a christian tells you that a god with three "omni" qualities exists, then tells you evil exists, you can conclude they are lying. An omni god cannot exists if there is evil in the world anymore than a ten sided triangle can exist.

So yes, christians may tell you "you can't prove god doesn't exist," but actually, yes you can: the the proported facts contradict.
Actually, all you would have proven is that the indicated christian is stupid or confused (Or a combo platter of both). Let's face it. What facts do christians actually use? unsubstantiated concepts twisted from an ancient tome are generally not regarded as fact by thinking people.
This only proves these folks who accept the Christian delusions as reality are mentally ill, specially when they are educated with PH.Ds ( Condi Rice, Frist, Graham, Behe, Robertson...et al)
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