View Full Version : Well, apparently we ARE evil...
postbicameral
05-27-2006, 09:56 PM
http://www.tencommandments.org/heathens.shtml
"atheism is properly defined as a denial of the existence of God in the midst of full knowledge that the true God does indeed exist."
Man, it must be great to be part of a belief system where you can just redefine shit at your leisure.
Go to the homepage and read some more of these people's outstanding cultural and literal viewpoints-- they're sure to please!
http://www.tencommandments.org
Oh, and the retro frames-based, scrolling javascript and flashing .jpegs programming make this site a winner!;)
Josiah
05-27-2006, 10:34 PM
For the love of christ let that be a joke.
And fine fine articles!!
Article #5 Date Posted:
Article written by:
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Coatsy
05-27-2006, 10:40 PM
For the love of christ let that be a joke.
And fine fine articles!!
Article #5 Date Posted:
Article written by:
************************************************** *****************
Yes, it is a fine article. But... where is it?
Josiah
05-27-2006, 10:42 PM
Yes, it is a fine article. But... where is it?
I think it's those stars.
http://www.tencommandments.org/article.html
postbicameral
05-28-2006, 12:18 AM
HOLY SHIT! Did you guys look at the "Justice Watch" link?
CASE: A son or daughter either curses or strikes his father or his mother.
VERDICT: The son or daughter should be put to death. (Leviticus 20:9).
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CASE: Jack or Jill is married, but Jack commits adultery with another man's wife, or Jill commits adultery with another woman's husband.
CASE:
VERDICT: "If there is a man who commits adultery with another man's wife, one who commits adultery with his friend's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:10)
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CASE: My son, daughter, sister, brother, mother, father or husband and etc. has had an homosexual experience, or is gay, but he or she is a doctor, attorney, legislator, scientist, teacher, professor, president or etc.
CASE: Robin Shahar is a lesbian. She lost a job after deciding to marry another woman
VERDICT: "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)
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CASE: A son commits incest with his mother, grandmother, sister or aunt...
CASE: A daughter commits incest with her father, grandfather, brother, or uncle...
CASE: A mother commits incest with her son...
CASE: A father commits incest with his daughter...
VERDICT: If there is a man who lies with his father's wife he has uncovered his father's nakedness; both of them shall surely be put to death,their bloodguiltiness is upon them. If there isa man who lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death; they have committed incest, their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (Leviticus 20:11-12)
Wow! Nifty, huh?
Josiah
05-28-2006, 04:44 AM
Think about it though. Most americans claim they believe in god, under those rules I bet more christians would be killed than atheists. And I'd fuck my mom if more atheists were killed more than christians proportionally.
SuX0rZ
05-28-2006, 05:21 AM
Dude, leveticus is fucked up, as is all the old testiment shit. Many christians follow the new testament and completely disregard the old testament.
Im probably wrong but... oh well, we just get so HARSH towards these idiots..haha... and i felt the need to defend them.
OMG, i actually feel compelled to defend these poor souls. How sad am i?... very
Coatsy
05-28-2006, 05:39 AM
http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/stupid.gif
postbicameral
05-28-2006, 06:25 AM
Dude, leveticus is fucked up, as is all the old testiment shit. Many christians follow the new testament and completely disregard the old testament.
Im probably wrong but... oh well, we just get so HARSH towards these idiots..haha... and i felt the need to defend them.
OMG, i actually feel compelled to defend these poor souls. How sad am i?... very
I don't believe most christians believe this stuff that's this harsh... I just happened to stumble upon this one shining example of a great website and felt I had to share...
Ickybod
05-28-2006, 06:26 AM
How can incest be wrong? I don't understand how the human race spread to billions of people from only 2 without any incest. And it actually happened twice! Don't forget Noah and his family. I'm sure brothers and sisters were pounding each other for generations!
Will a christian please explain this to me?
a different tim
05-28-2006, 06:47 AM
God gives special dispensation like in the case of Onan. As I understand it, God not only gave license to, but commanded Onan to fuck his sister. Onan felt uncomfortable with this and when the moment came jizzed on the ground instead. God punished him for his sin. This is the basis of the Catholic doctrine against contraception. Or something.
Notice to theists - this is my understanding of a clearly fictional incident. If you wish to correct my biblical scholarship, feel free to blow me because IT'S FUCKING FICTIONAL. You may as well base your legal judgements on "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" for all the sense it makes.
Josiah
05-28-2006, 06:50 AM
And for many christians, jesus is the old testament fullfilled. So, yes, they ignore the old testament.
UnknownUser
05-28-2006, 09:29 AM
God gives special dispensation like in the case of Onan. As I understand it, God not only gave license to, but commanded Onan to fuck his sister. Onan felt uncomfortable with this and when the moment came jizzed on the ground instead. God punished him for his sin.
He should of just given her the ol' Philly Fake Out :D
anthonyjfuchs
05-28-2006, 10:56 AM
Originally I wasn't going to mention that I'd written an email to the author of Fucktard Religious Website, but I actually got a response. My original email simply outlined the correct definition of atheism -- ie "without religion" -- and thanked Mr. Robert T. Lee in advance for recanting his slanderous accusations. Below is his answer, along with my replies to each of his "points." As usual, his email is marked with ">"'s, while my answers follow below his lines. Thought it might make for some interesting reading:
>The only creatures that are "without religion" are the animals.
Correct. And since human beings are animals (albeit animals with conscious self-awareness), then human beings are, too, without religion. We know that human beings are simply self-glorifying animals because humans are composed of the same genetic material, the same parts, and the same biological functions as animals.
All human beings, like all animals, are born atheists. It is only after they are taught to believe that they "find" religion.
>If you truly are unable to perceive and digest the overwhelming evidence of God for what it is...
What exactly is this "evidence for god"? I have yet to encounter a convincing piece of reliable supporting evidence that suggests that any gods exist. But if you have some, I'd love to hear it.
>...morally you are no higher than the animals.
Appeal to emotion fallacy. The conscious self-awareness of the human mind -- a strange biological quirk that allows us to know that we exist, and to know that we will someday not exist -- allows us to make decisions between options, to consider consequences to ourselves and others, and to make judgment calls based on those options and consequences. This unique, though perfectly natural, ability gives humans the ability to be moral.
As to the morality of animals, it has been demonstrated that a rat will learn to press a lever when pressing the lever will lower another rat to the ground since being suspended in the air is terrifying for a rat (Rice & Gainer, 1962), and that a monkey, being shown that a lever previously associated with the maximum food reward now also gives a shock to another monkey in sight of the subject, will press a second lever that gives them a far less impressive amount of food (Masserman et al, 1964). Clearly, animals do demonstrate the ability to be moral as well as humans. [These examples were complements of Victus (http://ravingatheist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=106583#p106583)]
>But the truth is, you are a rational human...
Correct, as outlined above.
>...and as such you have been given existence as a responsible creature to God.
Non-sequitor, since there is no reliable evidence that any gods exist, it does not follow that being a rational human makes anyone anything but a rational human. Your belief that your god exists, and is the "one true god," does not make that belief true.
>The existence of your soul (which animals do not have) is evidence of that.
Like your claim that god exists, your claim that souls exist is unsubstantiated. There is no evidence that such a thing as a "soul" exists. The conscious self-awareness of the human mind is a unique, albeit natural, result of a biochemical quirk in the human brain.
>Since you choose to deny your responsibilities to the true God,
Appeal to false authority fallacy, since you have yet to demonstrate that your god exists.
>...then count the ultimate cost of doing so and be prepared to suffer the eternal consequences.
Appeal to consequences fallacy, since you have yet to demonstrate that your threat is in any way related to whether or not your claim is true. That is, you must first demonstrate that your god exists before you can begin to make threats based on its existence.
Sternwallow
05-28-2006, 12:25 PM
For the love of christ let that be a joke.
And fine fine articles!!
Article #5 Date Posted:
Article written by:
************************************************** *****************
Yes, it is a fine article. But... where is it?
Have you no eyes? Can you not see that the entirety of the case for God and Jesus was just presented in all of its tiniest detail in those rich lines of prose!
Every single argument, logical or otherwise, can easily fit in four lines of text if the author is God himself (AKA "...written by: "). Like all of God's other pronouncements, this one is also timeless, as the least observant can perceive by the date posted.
This is clearly an homage to the proof of Jesus' resurrection being an empty hole in the ground.
snap crafter
05-28-2006, 12:32 PM
For the love of christ let that be a joke.
And fine fine articles!!
Yes, it is a fine article. But... where is it?
Have you no eyes? Can you not see that the entirety of the case for God and Jesus was just presented in all of its tiniest detail in those rich lines of prose!
Every single argument, logical or otherwise, can easily fit in four lines of text if the author is God himself (AKA "...written by: "). Like all of God's other pronouncements, this one is also timeless, as the least observant can perceive by the date posted.
This is clearly an homage to the proof of Jesus' resurrection being an empty hole in the ground.
:lol::lol::lol:
anthonyjfuchs
05-28-2006, 04:21 PM
Okay, I don't know what to make of this. Mr. Lee responded to my detailed reply with this one line, in quotations:
"Oh WOW! I see that the mark of the beast is permenantly stamped on your
forehead!!!" (RTL)
That's it. I don't get it; am I missing something?
Livingstrong
05-28-2006, 04:48 PM
http://www.tencommandments.org/heathens.shtml
"atheism is properly defined as a denial of the existence of God in the midst of full knowledge that the true God does indeed exist."
Man, it must be great to be part of a belief system where you can just redefine shit at your leisure.
Go to the homepage and read some more of these people's outstanding cultural and literal viewpoints-- they're sure to please!
http://www.tencommandments.org
Oh, and the retro frames-based, scrolling javascript and flashing .jpegs programming make this site a winner!;)
This website (and its 'creator/creators) are more than fucktards, retards, fuckheads, retrogrades, archaic, I mean more than total human waste, more than animal shit, what can I say? There are no possible words to describe this kind of entities that unfortunately breath on earth.
One thing I REALLY despise in this world: MF'S like them. I can't stand them.
Livingstrong
05-28-2006, 04:54 PM
Okay, I don't know what to make of this. Mr. Lee responded to my detailed reply with this one line, in quotations:
"Oh WOW! I see that the mark of the beast is permenantly stamped on your
forehead!!!" (RTL)
That's it. I don't get it; am I missing something?
First of all, I totally congratulate you and admire you for being so well educated, well mannered and being so civil with this arsehole. I don't know how you can control yourself. I couldn't. Only vomit could come out of my mouth if I ever tried to speak to him.
And no, you are definitely not missing anything. People like this idiot are the ones missing everything.
a different tim
05-28-2006, 05:09 PM
Okay, I don't know what to make of this. Mr. Lee responded to my detailed reply with this one line, in quotations:
"Oh WOW! I see that the mark of the beast is permenantly stamped on your
forehead!!!" (RTL)
That's it. I don't get it; am I missing something?
No, that's pretty much the entire theist case as I understand it.
"God exists and you have to do everythng he says!"
"Er...evidence, please?"
"YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!"*
*Note to Steve G, Quaker etc.....I realise some of you lay off this last line.
Facehammer
05-28-2006, 05:14 PM
God gives special dispensation like in the case of Onan. As I understand it, God not only gave license to, but commanded Onan to fuck his sister. Onan felt uncomfortable with this and when the moment came jizzed on the ground instead. God punished him for his sin. This is the basis of the Catholic doctrine against contraception. Or something.
Heh, Onan.
http://thepaincomics.com/Onan%20the%20Barbarian.jpg
darwinfish
05-28-2006, 09:44 PM
Notice to theists - this is my understanding of a clearly fictional incident. If you wish to correct my biblical scholarship, feel free to blow me because IT'S FUCKING FICTIONAL. You may as well base your legal judgements on "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" for all the sense it makes.
I love "The Very Hungry Caterpillar"! ah, memories...
Sternwallow
05-28-2006, 10:00 PM
Okay, I don't know what to make of this. Mr. Lee responded to my detailed reply with this one line, in quotations:
"Oh WOW! I see that the mark of the beast is permenantly stamped on your
forehead!!!" (RTL)
That's it. I don't get it; am I missing something?
You missed nothing. His response displays the total depth of his intellect, integrity and sanity.
schemanista
05-28-2006, 10:02 PM
You may as well base your legal judgements on "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" for all the sense it makes.
That would be a pretty good basis for a legal system, now that you mention it.
Where the wild things are is what I'd acutally use, however.
Grendel
05-30-2006, 10:21 AM
http://www.tencommandments.org/homosexual.html
"The great heinousness of homosexuality does not stop with the nasty acts of gay or homosexual people, but also extends itself in many other ways into the societies. Homosexuals often like to have some kind of contact and influence on children. This is why they hang around Boy's clubs, or become school teachers and why many of them in America work at Walt Disney. Many of them are pedophiles and want to recruit or teach children to accept homosexuality. And since homosexuality is at least equal to murder, this is equivalent to teaching children to become murderers."
Oh, sweet Jesus. I can't even get through his entire section dedicated to the evils of homosexuality without wanting to pluck my eyeballs out with a spoon. I think this guy is right up there with Fred Phelps. :mad:
postbicameral
05-30-2006, 10:26 AM
http://www.tencommandments.org/homosexual.html
"The great heinousness of homosexuality does not stop with the nasty acts of gay or homosexual people, but also extends itself in many other ways into the societies. Homosexuals often like to have some kind of contact and influence on children. This is why they hang around Boy's clubs, or become school teachers and why many of them in America work at Walt Disney. Many of them are pedophiles and want to recruit or teach children to accept homosexuality. And since homosexuality is at least equal to murder, this is equivalent to teaching children to become murderers."
Oh, sweet Jesus. I can't even get through his entire section dedicated to the evils of homosexuality without wanting to pluck my eyeballs out with a spoon. I think this guy is right up there with Fred Phelps. :mad:
Homosexual recruiter:
"..and if you sign up for 5 years, Billy, we'll pay not only for college, but relocation fees when you decide exactly where you want to be gay..."
:lol:
myst7426
05-30-2006, 04:05 PM
Okay, I don't know what to make of this. Mr. Lee responded to my detailed reply with this one line, in quotations:
"Oh WOW! I see that the mark of the beast is permenantly stamped on your
forehead!!!" (RTL)
That's it. I don't get it; am I missing something?
You are under the influence of Satan.
Perfect defense mechanism for anything that disagrees with a viewpoint with regards to the delusional believers.
He could not refute you or provide evidence for his claims so he essentially said you are evil and are actively seeking to destroy everything.
calpurnpiso
05-30-2006, 04:31 PM
"Well, apparently we ARE evil..."
Well, to ANY schizophrenia or Temporal lobe epilepsy patient the NEUROLOGIST and other DOCTORS treating him/her are EVIL!!.....
So, it is expected the Christ-psychtics view atheists and gays as evil also!!....:)
Coatsy
05-31-2006, 05:45 AM
You are under the influence of Satan.
Perfect defense mechanism for anything that disagrees with a viewpoint with regards to the delusional believers.
He could not refute you or provide evidence for his claims so he essentially said you are evil and are actively seeking to destroy everything.
A (rather religiose) friend of mine once told me that no matter how essentially good or moral a person was, if they didn't believe in the Christian God they would go to hell, I kid thee not. Well, according to four separate sources, roughly 33-35% of the world regard themselves as Christians. If you ask me, Satan seems to be winning, if he's getting 2 in 3 people. God doesn't seem either very omnipotent or omnibenevolent now, does he?
EDIT: Just realised that I'd written 'very omnipotent'. Disregard entire post at will.
Choobus
05-31-2006, 05:59 AM
how can you be "very omnipotent"? Isn't that a binary concept?
Coatsy
05-31-2006, 06:11 AM
how can you be "very omnipotent"? Isn't that a binary concept?
Didn't noticed that. I think I unconsciously put it in because it scanned slightly better. Thanks for the tip off.
Sternwallow
05-31-2006, 07:47 AM
Personally, I am the most un-omnipotent god I know about.
anthonyjfuchs
05-31-2006, 09:31 AM
He could not refute you or provide evidence for his claims so he essentially said you are evil and are actively seeking to destroy everything.
Not EVERYTHING. Just ignorant superstitions, and, at that particular moment, him.
CavKiller37
05-31-2006, 12:37 PM
Personally, I am the most un-omnipotent god I know about.
Does that mean that you're impotent? :D
Cap'n Awesome
05-31-2006, 04:46 PM
However, the deep wisdom contained in the TEN COMMANDMENTS is far beyond human capabilities. The deep wisdom and righteousness contained in them proves their Divine authorship.
I think this is my favorite part. Humans could never think up the wisdom in them, if you exclude just about every culture everywhere of all time, which punish murder, stealing and adultury. No way humans could think up something as deep as "Don't kill people"
brad89
05-31-2006, 05:07 PM
And for many christians, jesus is the old testament fullfilled. So, yes, they ignore the old testament.
Matt 4:4 - But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Leviticus, anyone? I could swear that it had a whole bunch of words from gods mouth.
If you live by the NT, you are a Criminal.
Lindsay
05-31-2006, 05:57 PM
I sent this guy an email as well, but I could not help but call him a bigoted, hypocritical, pigheaded ass...... so much for civility.
Sternwallow
06-01-2006, 08:38 PM
Personally, I am the most un-omnipotent god I know about.
Does that mean that you're impotent? :D
Typo, that's "important" :D
Sternwallow
06-01-2006, 08:49 PM
However, the deep wisdom contained in the TEN COMMANDMENTS is far beyond human capabilities. The deep wisdom and righteousness contained in them proves their Divine authorship.
I think this is my favorite part. Humans could never think up the wisdom in them, if you exclude just about every culture everywhere of all time, which punish murder, stealing and adultery. No way humans could think up something as deep as "Don't kill people"
Meanwhile, what great talent does it take to include "no child abuse", "no slavery" and a few other choice tidbits all of which trump "honor thy father and mother" for raw importance.
(Jesus commanded hatred for mom and dad as well as for all siblings and children. He also addressed his mother publicly by "John 2:
[3] And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
[4] Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come." This is what is meant by honoring much the same as relieving a sore neck with a garrotte.)
Sternwallow
06-01-2006, 11:05 PM
And for many christians, jesus is the old testament fullfilled. So, yes, they ignore the old testament.
Matt 4:4 - But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Leviticus, anyone? I could swear that it had a whole bunch of words from gods mouth.
If you live by the NT, you are a Criminal.
If you discount the Old Testament, you must abandon with it, 6-day creation, stoning homosexuals and obeying the Ten Commandments.
How exactly does Jesus fulfill and hence cancel the Garden of Eden? A whole lot went on there besides a trivial sin (a rule not for our good, but a rule meant to be broken).
thenormalyears
06-01-2006, 11:16 PM
The old testament has some good stuff in it too. Solomon says its ok to get drunk off your ass if you are depressed. There was a father daughter daughter threesome, ruth gave a passed out dude head.
Sternwallow
06-02-2006, 02:42 AM
The old testament has some good stuff in it too. Solomon says its ok to get drunk off your ass if you are depressed. There was a father daughter daughter threesome, ruth gave a passed out dude head.
Yeah, too bad we have to give that all up, including the Red Sea dried up by the feminine pad of God and Vacationing in Egypt, Pillar of Salt-substitute, Days of Damp Animals and beating the crap out of the Idiotites...
thenormalyears
06-02-2006, 11:30 AM
The old testament has some good stuff in it too. Solomon says its ok to get drunk off your ass if you are depressed. There was a father daughter daughter threesome, ruth gave a passed out dude head.
Yeah, too bad we have to give that all up, including the Red Sea dried up by the feminine pad of God and Vacationing in Egypt, Pillar of Salt-substitute, Days of Damp Animals and beating the crap out of the Idiotites...
All expense paid 40 year vacation in Sahara desert.
Sternwallow
06-03-2006, 12:39 PM
The old testament has some good stuff in it too. Solomon says its ok to get drunk off your ass if you are depressed. There was a father daughter daughter threesome, ruth gave a passed out dude head.
Yeah, too bad we have to give that all up, including the Red Sea dried up by the feminine pad of God and Vacationing in Egypt, Pillar of Salt-substitute, Days of Damp Animals and beating the crap out of the Idiotites...
All expense paid 40 year vacation in Sahara desert.
Yeah, like that.
thenormalyears
06-03-2006, 01:40 PM
For a God that used to be so brazen about his existance, he sure does hide alot now. It seems like only yesterday elijah was able to make fire shoot down from heaven and light up a bunch of soaking wet sticks on fire or a few kids whos names i cannot spell were able to survive in a firey furnace
SPELLING
antix
06-04-2006, 01:02 AM
For a God that used to be so brazen about his existance, he sure does hide alot now. It seems like only yesterday elijah was able to make fire shoot down from heaven and light up a bunch of soaking wet sticks on fire or a few kids whos names i cannot spell were able to survive in a firey furnace
Ah yes, the good ol' days. When the invisible fairy in the sky would talk to you while disguised as a plant set on fire. I'll bet story really went something like:
God: Hey, Moses, come here a second. I need you for something.
Moses: Where art thou Lord? All I see is the vastness of the desert-- and that burning bush over there.
God: You stupid fucktwit, it's me... In the bush... er... I am the bush... or something.
Moses: Oh... um... .OK, what is it you want?
God: Duh... I'm on fire, dickface. A little help here.
Moses: That's a pretty large blaze there, god. What can I do to help? After all, we're in a desert?
God: Well no shit? Really? Fucking assclown. You could... oh... I don't know... TRY SMOTHERING THE FLAMES!
Moses: But Lord, all I have is my robes. I can't walk around in the desert naked.
God: Oh booh fucking hoo. Pooooor little Moses is embarassed to be naked in the sand. Can't you fucking think about anyone but yourself? AFter all, I'M THE ONE WHO'S ON FIRE
Moses: THAT'S IT! Fuck you then. You're God. Make some water or something like you did with Noah.
God: Oh... About that... I... er... uh... can't actually do that. It was Poseiden.
Sternwallow
06-04-2006, 01:34 PM
For a God that used to be so brazen about his existance, he sure does hide alot now. It seems like only yesterday elijah was able to make fire shoot down from heaven and light up a bunch of soaking wet sticks on fire or a few kids whos names i cannot spell were able to survive in a firey furnace
Ah yes, the good ol' days. When the invisible fairy in the sky would talk to you while disguised as a plant set on fire. I'll bet story really went something like:
God: Hey, Moses, come here a second. I need you for something.
Moses: Where art thou Lord? All I see is the vastness of the desert-- and that burning bush over there.
God: You stupid fucktwit, it's me... In the bush... er... I am the bush... or something.
Moses: Oh... um... .OK, what is it you want?
God: Duh... I'm on fire, dickface. A little help here.
Moses: That's a pretty large blaze there, god. What can I do to help? After all, we're in a desert?
God: Well no shit? Really? Fucking assclown. You could... oh... I don't know... TRY SMOTHERING THE FLAMES!
Moses: But Lord, all I have is my robes. I can't walk around in the desert naked.
God: Oh booh fucking hoo. Pooooor little Moses is embarassed to be naked in the sand. Can't you fucking think about anyone but yourself? AFter all, I'M THE ONE WHO'S ON FIRE
Moses: THAT'S IT! Fuck you then. You're God. Make some water or something like you did with Noah.
God: Oh... About that... I... er... uh... can't actually do that. It was Poseiden.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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