Cosmological Reasons For Gods Nonexistence:
COSMOLOGICAL REASONS FOR GODS NONEXISTENCE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6w2M50_Xdk ** Before you read the reply: Watch the video, and note where it states that when you know enough science, you can look back at the Universe and say "Dude I am you!" ** --------------------- I will make this argument very simple.. Consciousness can't exist at "Ground State" in the Physical world... And consciousness can not exist in an immaterial world because immaterial is the absents of substance. AKA "NOTHING".. To say something is made of literal nothing is utterly retarded. Theists thus like to argue for the "Nothing GOD". And they wonder why it can't be seen ;).. However, I will take this even a step further and tackle the entire argument with just the use of information theory: Information: The Material Physical Cause of Causation: Just so people know, this follows information Entropy, Pantheism, and the understanding that energy =/= information. Two sides of the same coin to where neither can exist without the other. This also follows the conservation of energy where energy and mass can neither be created or destroyed. So under information theory, this statement is said to be unarguably true: Quote:
* POSITIVE * NEGATIVE * NEUTRAL These are not only the base laws of existence, they are the attributes to everything, and everything we know of is made of energy. thus it's considered under information theory that Energy =/= information as both substance and value (as previously noted above). Thus the 3 fundamental properties, attributes, and laws are the cause of all causation. Information and energy are thus simply stated as "Cause". There can only ever be a positive, negative, or neutral; Action Reaction Process Mathematical equation Answer Choice Decision Intent Purpose Moral Ethic Emotion Feeling Piece of information State Function Ability Response System Feedback Opinion Phenomenon Condition Ability Power Electric Charge Selection Adaptation Mutation Transformation Position Point of view Observation Sensation Perception Or the relativity of anything above ----------------- So Let's look at why this argument is key to addressing the "Christian GOD": We can just take a moment to address the Fount of Knowledge: St John of Damascus, The Fount of Knowledge:Thus it can be said that such an argument self-collapses in every area of the supposed attributes given when anyone of them is taken out of the equation by another conflicting attribute, or thing (such as ourselves). Especially in the case or state of absolute Omniscience. So here is what it boils down to under information theory: Quote:
1) A boundless GOD? Can a boundless GOD be boundless if you are to claim all of us to separate individuals? What boundaries lie between GOD being me, and not being me? 2) If he is uncontained then what separates him from me? 3) If he's without limits, what limits define GOD apart from who I am?.. 4) If he is omnipresent, where do I exist? 5) If he contains and sustains all things, would he not be existence itself? Thus am I, and everyone else here not the conscious representations of god, or GOD himself? 6) If he is Omniscient and knows infinitely everything to which is knowable, would he not know me in every infinitely knowable way to where he himself would literally be I, me, or who I am in every infinitely knowable way? 7) If he is immaterial, would he not be made of nothing? Thus how does nothing exist as a person, place, or thing? How does nothing as a substance be the property value of something? How does nothing contain and sustain informational value? -------------------- "Pantheism": This is where it get's interesting in regards to the posted video and science. Pantheism may sound religious, but it's really just saying that we are obvious made from, and apart of the natural world, or reality.. And it doesn't matter what form, place, or state that might be in. But I take it more in regards to Materialism as a realist point of view. Quote:
* The Brain is both a Neurocomputer and a Quantum Computer * Conscious Mechanical Self-Organization Abstract: End Part 1: |
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B: There can be no consciousness or awareness without information C: One can not have knowledge without information D: One can not do anything without information E: One can not exist without informational value F: One can not think without information G: One can not even know one's self exists without information H: One can not reply, respond, or react without information I: One can not convey, send, or express a message without information J: There can be no morals, ethics, or laws without information K: One can not have or express emotions, or feelings without information L: One can not have experiences, or experience anything at all without information M: One can not have a place to exist in order to be existent without information N: One can not Create, or Design anything without information O: One can not have the ability to process things without information P: Intelligence can not exist without information to apply Q: No system, or process can exist without information R: Cause and effect can not exist without information Existence is seen as a phenomenal reality of physical self-oscillating, self-organizing energy that makes you, me, the stars, matter, anything with mass possible. What this show's is very simple: Quote:
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So let me know what you think :).. Yes it is very long, and I apologize for it's length :(. However, I think it's worth the read!
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Needs pictures - but I corrected your typo. ;)
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But there could be Leprechauns, right? Because I have faith in Them! :|
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Thank you :).. It's like 4am so it doesn't surprise me that I have made so many errors lol. I appreciate your help in correcting them :) |
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I think I might owe you money, dude. I was meaning to pay you. I was just waiting for you to show up. :| |
So Anubis was the one true god all along?
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what's a jackel?
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Prolly another typo?
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I think its something you wear to keep small change and your collection of pens in and rain out.
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