:lol: and all this from the shite-meister who proudly announced a few weeks ago:-
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Egor. You really are a dishonest jerk. I say that I could produce lots of historical evidence to contradict your inerrant bible. You, as a patronising and arrogant ignoramus, reply, "Bring it on." I have already quoted contradictions to you about historical facts about Emperors and Governors being at odds with your fairy tale bible. You ignored those, of course. You now, in your contemptible way, seem to have satisfied yourself that the more contradictory your ignorant bible the more this reveals your non existent God. Only you, of course, have access to these meanings.
Egor, you need help. And I mean help of a psychiatric kind. You are uttering comments that reveal someone who is clinically paranoid. Or, to be blunt, you have been so disturbed at being confronted by facts that you have become unbalanced. You are insane. Comments made by others merely provoke you into entertaining us. There is an analogy between what is happening here and the entertainment spectators enjoyed in past times by viewing the mad inhabitants of Bedlam in the UK. |
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Hi, Egor!
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However, all the christians I've dealt with would probably stone you for death for even suggesting it (this is totally your cue to play the "no true christian" line). It wasn't until you claimed it that I had seen it as a proposal. But, you're not contesting it, so let's move on. Quote:
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Nicely done on the honey-pot trap at the end there, though, playing to my ego. Always a powerful trick when people don't understand it. Quote:
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I didn't review gods on a case-by-case basis then dismiss them. My personal view is to reject the idea of any supernatural will being involved in the creation of existance (for lack of a better way of putting it). That means that any religion that suggests a creator god is flatly rejected by me. I feel no need to read or know anything about the bible, the torah, or any of those in order to reject it flat. So when I said that, I was saying that yes, I consider The Bible to be a fictional book, in the same bane as Lord of The Rings or Harry Potter - I make little distinction. However, The Bible is a really dry, boring read. If I were to take another clearly fictional story, and write it in the same manner as the bible and try to sell it, no-one would read it. It really isn't a well written story. Hence my saying what I said. I didn't hide it. However, you seem to take this to....well, it looks like you're flabbergasted at my saying this. Almost a "See what I mean? He is rejecting holy word for satan's word!". That's not what it's about. Then curiously, you accuse me of doing exactly what I just did - consider the book just a book. However, you appear to be taking something that I have freely admitted (though seemingly passed over your head) and accusing me of it as though it's some big revelation. Some big cover-up. Quote:
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You're right, I don't care about the bible. It means so very, very little to me. And you will find mostly when it comes to arguing about specifics in holy scriptures, I won't weigh in too heavily because I just couldn't give a fuck. I'm more interested in arguments about the logic and ideology in regards to a supernatural will. Sometimes these things overlap, and when they do I get involved. Such was the case here, where you created your desired end goal (a way to explain the differing geneologies - it seems you chose "well this is what god wanted all along!") and then forced your logic and twisted your facts to fit that. This is not a good way to do things, hence my pointing out the flaws of attempting it. It's weird you didn't understand this. I'm thinking you did but don't have a better way of rebutting my complete and utter destuction of your logic time after time, so tried (once again) to twist facts to suit your needs. And once again you failed. Quote:
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You are really bad at this. How is it that we can destroy your logic time and time again and yet you still keep trying the same thing? I mean you haven't scored a single point in this yet, but you keep coming back with the same old deluded, proven-to-be-wrong crap. Every time, we show you how your thinking is insanely flawed, but you keep bringing it back so we can rip you apart again. I thought you'd get sick of losing, but I guess not. I really am thinking it's a domination fetish. I'm guessing when you finally give in to that suppressed homo-eroticism a lot of christians seem to have, you'll be a catcher, rather than a pitcher. Heck, maybe you are already, I don't know you in real life. |
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I'm guessing that as soon as he can find something close enough to the "ban" he seems so desperate to get, he will disappear. He just doesn't want to have to leave with his tail between his legs, knowing he was beaten and humiliated. Too bad he doesn't have enough to sustain himself until then. Complete implosion imminent, I say. |
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Let me put this whole, I’m-not-a-Christian bit to rest. At that time, I didn’t consider myself one. For many years I have gone back and forth between Christianity and my own religion I called Veridicanism. I have come to see that Veridicanism simply leads me back to Christianity. So, at this time in my life, I have decided to make a stand. I won’t be going back. I am a Christian. I was baptized as a Lutheran. I have, however separated myself from all affiliated forms of Christianity. So, technically, I would be a non-denominational, non-evangelical Protestant Christian. Quote:
Face it: You lose. :cry: Quote:
No, other Christians do as well. I am constantly reading books on Christian apologetics and Gospel interpretation. Quote:
Face it: You lost and the only thing you have to say to my reply to you is that I’m insane and stupid. That proves you lost, because what I said makes perfect sense. You’re just pissed that what you were so sure was an error in the Gospels, for at least one person, is a critically needed element and the Gospel would be diminished if it weren’t there. Quote:
Ha ha! You have nothing left. All you have left are insults. I may be insane but I sure got the better of you. Good, better, best, bested. How do you like that for a declension young man? --Who’s Afraid of Virginia Wolfe Quote:
I think you’re actually in a panic here. Let it go, man! We can go onto some new business. I won’t keep throwing this up in your face. ;) Quote:
Can I help you with something here: the term you’re looking for is not “paranoid.” If anything, you might want to say delusional or that I used loose associations. Technically, however, the way I answered you would be in the form of stream-of –thought. And I must admit, I really like the taste of victory. :rock: Quote:
I never respond to Ghoulslime. And I pick and choose whom I respond to for two reasons. 1. I don’t have time to respond to everyone here, in my blog, and in the other atheist forum. So, I pick and choose. 2. I pick and choose based on how insulting the person is, or whether they are making any sense to me. You respectfully dropped a challenge, in a coherent manner, regarding the veracity and inerrancy of the Gospels. So, I went with that one. But, damn, you are a sore loser aren’t you? :poke: |
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Ban me. I freakin dare you. :hand: |
I made the mistake of Gazoogling "Veridicanism."
Ed, you have serious problems. Please seek help. |
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EGOr, You might have seen this list on another forum, which you also happened to ignore. Can you please tell us why we have these contradictions and explain why the gospels are the inerrant word of god.
Good works to be seen of men Matt 5:16 Good works not to be seen of men Matt 6:1 Christ taught non-resistance Matt 5:39/ Matt 26:52 Christ taught and practiced physical resistance Luke 22:36/ John 2:15 Christ warned his followers not to fear being killed Luke 12:4 Christ himself avoided the Jews for fear of being killed John 7:1 Importunity in prayer commended Luke 18:5,7 Importunity in prayer condemned Matt 6:7,8 John the Baptist was Elias Matt 11:14 John the Baptist was not Elias John 1:21 The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob Matt 1:16 The father of Mary's husband was Heli Luke 3:23 There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David Matt 1:17 There were but thirteen generations from Abraham to David Matt 1:2-6 There were fourteen generations from the Babylonian captivity to Christ. Matt 1:17 There were but thirteen generations from the Babylonian captivity to Christ Matt 1:12-16 The infant Christ was taken into Egypt Matt 2:14,15,19,21,23 The infant Christ was not taken into Egypt Luke 2:22, 39 Christ was tempted in the wilderness Mark 1:12,13 Christ was not tempted in the wilderness John 2:1,2 Christ preached his first sermon on the mount Matt 5:1,2 Christ preached his first sermon on the plain Luke 6:17,20 John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee Mark 1:14 John was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee John 1:43/ John 3:22-24 Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with a staff and sandals Mark 6:8,9 Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with neither staffs nor sandals. Matt 10:9,10 A woman of Canaan besought Jesus Matt 15:22 It was a Greek woman who besought Him Mark 7:26 Two blind men besought Jesus Matt 20:30 Only one blind man besought Him Luke 18:35,38 Christ was crucified at the third hour Mark 15:25 Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour John 19:14,15 The two thieves reviled Christ. Matt 27:44/ Mark 15:32 Only one of the thieves reviled Christ Luke 23:39,40 Satan entered into Judas while at supper John 13:27 Satan entered into him before the supper Luke 22:3,4,7 There was but one woman who came to the sepulchre John 20:1 There were two women who came to the sepulchre Matt 28:1 There were three women who came to the sepulchre Mark 16:1 There were more than three women who came to the sepulchre Luke 24:10 It was at sunrise when they came to the sepulchre Mark 16:2 It was some time before sunrise when they came. John 20:1 There were two angels seen by the women at the sepulchre, and they were standing up. Luke 24:4 There was but one angel seen, and he was sitting down. Matt 28:2,5 There were two angels seen within the sepulchre. John 20:11,12 There was but one angel seen within the sepulchre Mark 16:5 Christ was to be three days and three nights in the grave Matt 12:40 Christ was but two days and two nights in the grave Mark 15:25,42,44,45,46; 16:9> The disciples were commanded immediately after the resurrection to go into Galilee Matt 28:10 The disciples were commanded immediately after the resurrection to go tarry at Jerusalem Luke 24:49 Jesus first appeared to the eleven disciples in a room at Jerusalem Luke 24:33,36,37/ John 20:19 Jesus first appeared to the eleven on a mountain in Galilee Matt 28:16,17 Christ is equal with God John 10:30/ Phil 2:5 Christ is not equal with God John 14:28/ Matt 24:36 Jesus was all-powerful Matt 28:18/ John 3:35 Jesus was not all-powerful Mark 6:5 The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation Luke 16:16/ Eph 2:15/ Rom 7:6 The law was not superseded by the Christian dispensation Matt 5:17-19 Christ's mission was peace Luke 2:13,14 Christ's mission was not peace Matt 10:34 Christ received not testimony from man John 5:33,34 Christ did receive testimony from man John 15:27 |
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