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Sinfidel 05-30-2017 01:52 AM

Politicks
 
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Kinich Ahau 05-30-2017 06:30 AM

love it! not the orangemanbaby, the photo.

Smellyoldgit 06-01-2017 05:55 PM

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Kinich Ahau 06-02-2017 07:00 AM

I can see a whole series of these on the way. Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Sinfidel 06-02-2017 11:13 PM

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Kinich Ahau wrote (Post 687206)
I can see a whole series of these on the way. Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Americans seem to have forgotten why they have the second amendment. At least bring out the pitchforks and the guillotine! :mad:

Smellyoldgit 06-03-2017 12:52 PM

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clambake 06-03-2017 02:00 PM

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Kinich Ahau wrote (Post 687206)
I can see a whole series of these on the way. Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

2nd this, though I definitely laughed and I hope the {garbled} sees them just to piss it off.

Sinfidel 06-12-2017 08:54 AM

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Sinfidel 06-12-2017 09:20 AM

Does this =

http://media.breitbart.com/media/201...80-640x480.jpg

Remind you of this -


AtomJack 06-12-2017 08:34 PM

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Smellyoldgit wrote (Post 687208)

Really need a like button in here! The Paris Accord has no teeth, and is completely voluntary. The Chump is so completely clueless that it defies belief. :mad:

Smellyoldgit 06-13-2017 01:50 PM

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Sinfidel wrote (Post 687207)
Americans seem to have forgotten why they have the second amendment. At least bring out the pitchforks and the guillotine! :mad:

If the great unwashed masses are afraid to use their entitlement of pea-shooters to deal with the Orange Clan, perhaps it's time to re-amend the 2nd!

Sinfidel 06-13-2017 08:35 PM

The Republican treason

Book by Joseph Burrell

"This book is a polemic directed against the Republican Party and the conservative movement, drawing largely on their own published statements. ... Google Books
Originally published: 2008
Author: Joseph Burrell

Opinion: House Republicans Are Colluding With Trump To Conceal Treason. By Rmuse on Wed, Mar 22nd, 2017 at 10:05 am
www.politicususa.com/2017/

AtomJack 06-14-2017 07:23 PM

A lot of the US is stupid from poor upbringing, and from religious indoctrination adding a heaping helping of willful ignorance. The Chump is a symptom, not the cause. Colluding with the Russians is something that I'd think even the stupidest of us would realize is a Bad Thing(TM). While collusion might strike some as too strong a word, when dealing with the Russians (well, CIS), one should know that everything is going to have their security people in on it. Then again, I'm not certain that the Chump is even capable of processing that his business dealings could be construed that way.

I'm waiting for the sex tapes.

Here's a freebie gratuitous joke at the loofa-faced shitgoblin's expense:

What is the difference between a chick pea and a garbanzo bean?
The Chump has never had a garbanzo bean on his face.

Sinfidel 06-15-2017 06:52 AM

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Sinfidel 06-17-2017 11:05 AM

Should Politicians be tested for Alzheimers before testifying?

"In all, Reagan said ``I don`t recall`` or ``I can`t remember`` 88 times in the eight hours of testimony taken Feb. 16-17 in Los Angeles."

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...stimony-recall

"Jeff Sessions Said "I Don't Remember" or "I Don't Recall" 26 Times During Senate Intel Testimony"

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/6/..._dont_remember

Kinich Ahau 06-17-2017 12:20 PM

I did have an opinion on this but as of now I can't recall it.

Davin 06-19-2017 09:48 AM

I'm not entirely sure about the collusion, but from what I do know, I think it's very likely. I think the interfering with an investigation from Trump and Sessions is true.

Trump violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution is clear also. No question about that.

But I doubt anything will be done about anything if/until the GOP loses it's power hold.

Smellyoldgit 06-20-2017 06:48 AM

With violation of the emoluments clause apparently so glaringly obvious, who is responsible for or able to start the "get rid of the cunt" impeachment process?

Davin 06-20-2017 10:11 AM

The GOP has put all their eggs into the Trump basket. Most of them are going to ride this where ever it goes. They'll only jump off near the end. If Trump makes it to two terms, at the end of the second, you'll start hearing Republican representatives shit talking Trump and talking abut how they never supported him and all the times they stood up to him (which will work because apparently Republicans have short memories).

Or if he gets impeached (even if he only gets half impeached in the house like Nixon and Clinton did), then they will start to fear re-election more than they fear Trump. And then they'll start talking big.

Unless the mid-terms next year swap out a lot of Republicans for Democrats, this is not going to go far. For that, the Democrats have to change their strategy. I think they should change it to pointing out how all the Republican representatives have been voting against the interests of the people they are supposed to be representing.

Smellyoldgit 06-21-2017 04:54 PM

I know the Georgia special election was in a T-rumpist stronghold, but fuck me, with the amazing unpopularity of the apricot assclown at an all-time low, surely the Dems could have dragged out the vote to show the nation what needs to be done? But no, more of the rancid, uncaring same. I fear this great post-colonial experiment is fucked, has failed and will go the way of the Romans. Of course, the recent idiotic baseball turkey shoot had nothing to do with it.

Sinfidel 06-21-2017 10:51 PM

America is in the end stage of Capitalism, Fascism. Religion helped bring that about. The White House gang now in charge are evil lying shysters trying to hide behind a laughable mask of Christianity. Their masters are greed personified, who slaughter with pleasure, profiting handsomely from endless war.
The religion Con uses laughable narrative to inculcate guilt, primarily sexual guilt, because a man burdened with a guilty conscience is more docile and obedient. Imagine an invisible guy in the sky keeping tabs on how often you masturbate, so he can punish you!
Thus mentally crippled, the gullibles repeatedly fall for the political Con game - make nice speeches, promise the suckers what you'll do FOR them if elected, and, when voted in, see what you can do TO them, while only representing the rich and greedy.
Their continued success has made them so brazen, even the nice speeches are foregone, gerrymandering, voter restrictions, and vote counting frauds are the norm now. And, once elected, refusing to answer questions.

Sinfidel 06-24-2017 06:09 AM

Hypocrites!
 
https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...bill/22071008/

:vomit:

Sinfidel 06-24-2017 09:08 AM

T r u m p ’ s L i e s



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...imes&smtyp=cur


:(

Davin 06-26-2017 07:15 AM

Watching the whole shitshow drains me.

Sinfidel 06-27-2017 05:26 AM

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AtomJack 06-27-2017 10:58 AM

And his con man grand son is still stiffing the people.

Sinfidel 06-27-2017 09:45 PM

Great Men at work.....

https://theindependentamericanblog.f...ereaterman.jpg

https://scontent.fybz1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...b3&oe=59D75264

Sinfidel 06-29-2017 12:43 PM

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Davin wrote (Post 687301)
Watching the whole shitshow drains me.


If you want to know the How and Why of Trump and the Republicans, read it here....

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Po...ule_World.html

dogpet 06-29-2017 01:43 PM

Applying to join the British Commonwealth wouldn't be your worst move.

AtomJack 06-29-2017 07:21 PM

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Sinfidel wrote (Post 687316)
If you want to know the How and Why of Trump and the Republicans, read it here....

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Po...ule_World.html

Must be where "pwned" came from.

Sinfidel 07-04-2017 04:49 AM

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AtomJack 07-04-2017 07:54 PM

:lol: So true. What an ass that guy is.

Smellyoldgit 07-05-2017 05:32 AM

Indeed - but 'the system' is so ineffective and fucked, that the bloated shithead knows he can get away with his assholeness and will almost certainly get re-elected by the pea brained electorate.

Sinfidel 07-05-2017 09:48 PM

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Smellyoldgit wrote (Post 687340)
Indeed - but 'the system' is so ineffective and fucked, that the bloated shithead knows he can get away with his assholeness and will almost certainly get re-elected by the pea brained electorate.


"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” -HL Mencken



Sinfidel 07-06-2017 03:21 AM

Trump Walks To His Limo – What Happens Next Is Raising Serious Questions About His Mental Health

https://www.liberalexaminer.com/2017...ource=lmshares

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Davin 07-06-2017 06:42 AM

It was funny, and scary. My suspicions are that he is being taken advantage of by many different people. I don't care about him because he's always been an asshole and deserves to be treated like shit, but it's that he'll sign anything put in front of him that worries me.

Andrew66 07-11-2017 12:26 PM

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!!!!

Controlled boarders (less crime entering the States)
Blue lives matter
Against religious extremism (aka Islam)
De-regulation and lower taxes helps economy
Man of principal - does not succumb to political correctness.
Good business man

USA needs a boss.

What do the Democrats do that is better.

Davin 07-11-2017 01:45 PM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687360)
TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!!!!

Controlled boarders (less crime entering the States)

Any data on this?

And why didn't he ban travel from countries where all the terrorists came from? Yeah, out all seven of those Muslim majority countries he banned, zero of any of the terrorists that attacked us cam from them. Zero. So if the ban was for security, it was incredibly stupid.

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Andrew66 wrote
Blue lives matter

Of course they do. So why is it that unarmed black people are being killed by the police? Do their lives matter? Any outrage towards unarmed people getting shot by the police? Any outrage for citizens obeying the law and the orders given by the police and still getting shot to death?

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Andrew66 wrote
Against religious extremism (aka Islam)

Who isn't against religious extremism? I mean other than Christains towards Christains.

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Andrew66 wrote
De-regulation and lower taxes helps economy

It most certainly does not. What helps the economy, according to every single economist, is a fluid system. So what happens when half the money in a system gets stuck in the top 1% of the population? No longer fluid is it? So if flowing money is good for economy, guess what's bad for the economy? Yeah, having 1% of the population hoarding half the money is bad for the economy.

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Andrew66 wrote
Man of principal - does not succumb to political correctness.

Man of principle? Yeah, pretty sure by now you're just trolling. I don't give a fuck about political correctness, but Trump lies 98% of the time. Such principles!

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Andrew66 wrote
Good business man

Yeah, he's only declared bankruptcy three times! And ran a casino into the ground... a fucking casino! The house always wins, except when a "good business man" is in charge right?

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Andrew66 wrote
USA needs a boss.

The US needs someone who respects the constitution. The emoluments clause would be a good start.

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Andrew66 wrote
What do the Democrats do that is better.

Ethics. Understanding the economy. Security. Fiscal responsibility. Respecting the constitution. Freedom. Foreign relations. Ending wars. Honesty. Representing the will of the people. Not being bitches to corporations. Net Neutrality. Not suppressing voters.

Kinich Ahau 07-12-2017 12:27 AM

Controlled boarders?

I've seen this mistake so many times by the orange man-child's supporters, why am I not surprised?

Sinfidel 07-12-2017 07:58 AM

Andrew66 wrote:

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What do the Democrats do that is better.
Davin replied:

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Ethics. Understanding the economy. Security. Fiscal responsibility. Respecting the constitution. Freedom. Foreign relations. Ending wars. Honesty. Representing the will of the people. Not being bitches to corporations. Net Neutrality. Not suppressing voters.
You must be joking! Look how the Democrats cheated Sanders. And then there's the Clinton criminals. Where did the millions raised for Haiti earthquake victims go?
Hillary on the attempted coup in Turkey - "We have to support a democratically elected government!" Yeah - tell us about the coup in Honduras, which she supported and is now murder capitol of S. America.
And she helped bring "Democracy" to Libya, now another failed state, and she laughs about the murder of Qaddafi.

Davin 07-12-2017 08:08 AM

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Sinfidel wrote (Post 687366)
Andrew66 wrote:



Davin replied:



You must be joking! Look how the Democrats cheated Sanders. And then there's the Clinton criminals. Where did the millions raised for Haiti earthquake victims go?
Hillary on the attempted coup in Turkey - "We have to support a democratically elected government!" Yeah - tell us about the coup in Honduras, which she supported and is now murder capitol of S. America.
And she helped bring "Democracy" to Libya, now another failed state, and she laughs about the murder of Qaddafi.

He said "better." While the Democrats are not wholly innocent, they are better at all those things. By a lot.

Davin 07-12-2017 09:36 AM

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Kinich Ahau wrote (Post 687365)
Controlled boarders?

I've seen this mistake so many times by the orange man-child's supporters, why am I not surprised?

They act like the borders were open, like whenever a democrat is in office nothing is done.

Andrew66 07-12-2017 10:11 AM

Democrats enable and promote the rise of Islamic extremism in the USA because they refuse to acknowledge the basic truth that Islam (as stated in the Quran and Hadith) in part advocates such extremism.

Hence a Democratic government would for example bring in tons of Muslim refugees ( like Germany did), many who agree or sympathise with (if not actually plan to act upon), militant jihad against secular minded citizens of the USA (including atheists).

Trump's travel ban was crafted to be legally acceptable, that is why he could not ban more countries, or simply all Muslims. However, it is clear that while thankfully most Muslims in the US are peaceful (i.e. they reject the militant Jihad teachings based in their scriptures) - it is generally wisest to keep Muslim populations within one's borders to a minimum.

Davin 07-12-2017 10:20 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687369)
Democrats enable and promote the rise of Islamic extremism in the USA because they refuse to acknowledge the basic truth that Islam (as stated in the Quran and Hadith) in part advocates such extremism.

Before casting your stones, maybe you should check your own books first.

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Andrew66 wrote
Hence a Democratic government would for example bring in tons of Muslim refugees ( like Germany did), many who agree or sympathise with (if not actually plan to act upon), militant jihad against secular minded citizens of the USA (including atheists).

Do you have any of that there evidence or is this just another of your illogical and baseless claims?

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Andrew66 wrote
Trump's travel ban was crafted to be legally acceptable, that is why he could not ban more countries, or simply all Muslims. However, it is clear that while thankfully most Muslims in the US are peaceful (i.e. they reject the militant Jihad teachings based in their scriptures) - it is generally wisest to keep Muslim populations within one's borders to a minimum.

Based on what? More bullshit?

You make a bunch of claims, but they're all bullshit, and you should feel bad for making yourself look like a Trump cuck willing to swallow whatever he shoves down your throat without verifying it first.

Andrew66 07-12-2017 11:01 AM

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You make a bunch of claims, but they're all bullshit, and you should feel bad for making yourself look like a Trump cuck willing to swallow whatever he shoves down your throat without verifying it first.
Everything I said is completely rationale and true. It is your replies that are baseless and udder bullshit.

Davin 07-12-2017 11:55 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687371)
Everything I said is completely rationale and true. It is your replies that are baseless and udder bullshit.

All of my replies can be backed up, just let me know which parts you're most ignorant of and I'll try to explain it in a way a Trump cuck like you can understand.

In the meantime, you keep you mouth on Trump's cock, we don't want to ween you off of your favorite pacifier too quickly, snowflakes like you have a hard time dealing with reality.

Andrew66 07-12-2017 02:02 PM

Your hatred for your own President is very apparent.

Dem's tend to pander to, and you may believe they therefore favor minority groups that have a narrative of persecution.

Given your passion Davin, I'm going to take a guess

Are you African American?

Trump favours police safety over criminal civil rights, and most criminals (at least those convicted and incarcerated) in America happen to be black.

Are you a black lives matter advocate by chance??

By the way, if your white but Gay, Trump has not shown a propensity to hurt gay rights. Trump defends America against the promotion of Islam, which by Sharia law and taught in the Hadith aims to murder gays.

Sinfidel 07-13-2017 05:13 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687374)
Your hatred for your own President is very apparent.

Dem's tend to pander to, and you may believe they therefore favor minority groups that have a narrative of persecution.

Given your passion Davin, I'm going to take a guess

Are you African American?

Trump favours police safety over criminal civil rights, and most criminals (at least those convicted and incarcerated) in America happen to be black.

Are you a black lives matter advocate by chance??

Is this how you dress for a Trump rally?

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...es-1009-07.jpg

Davin 07-13-2017 06:37 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687374)
Your hatred for your own President is very apparent.

I tend to not like people who hurt the country. Sorry if that hurts your fee fees.

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Andrew66 wrote
Dem's tend to pander to, and you may believe they therefore favor minority groups that have a narrative of persecution.

lol. At least there are actual examples of persecution. Unlike the idiot Christains who think they are being persecuted.

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Andrew66 wrote
Given your passion Davin, I'm going to take a guess

Not much passion, I'm just being honest.

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Andrew66 wrote
Are you African American?

Why does that matter? Seriously, I know you concede to most of my objections and questions, but this is one that I think you should answer.

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Andrew66 wrote
Trump favours police safety over criminal civil rights, and most criminals (at least those convicted and incarcerated) in America happen to be black.

That's stupid. How are the police in danger from unarmed people following their orders? Do you think that the police have reason to be afraid just because they are black?

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Andrew66 wrote
Are you a black lives matter advocate by chance??

Yeah, I support the movement. Do you think that black lives don't matter?

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Andrew66 wrote
By the way, if your white but Gay, Trump has not shown a propensity to hurt gay rights. Trump defends America against the promotion of Islam, which by Sharia law and taught in the Hadith aims to murder gays.

You're an idiot. Do you even know who the VP is? The party he's in? Some of the executive orders he's signed? Wow, you're so fucking stupid. Trump has done something against everyone except the top 1%. Pay attention... or keep looking like a willfully ignorant idiot.

Maybe you need to take a break from licking Trumps asshole for a few minutes to take a look around. You keep trying to defend Trump, while knowing almost nothing about him.

Andrew66 07-13-2017 11:01 AM

Firstly I am not at all Racist at all, although I still recognize that African Americans, likely because of past history of persecution and poverty, comprise a subgroup of the population within the USA more prone to committing crimes.

Police officers unfortunately will tend to associate therefore a black individual as a higher risk for criminal activity. This is an unfortunate reality

I think a good step in safe guarding innocent African American's during police stops is for all police to mandatorily wear body camera's. This will promote best behaviour on both sides during an altercation. Police should also start friendly , respectful but cautious - and only escalate situations when evidence of threat.

However suspects during a pull over should also be advised to explicitly show there is no threat. Polite demeanor and showing an officer one's hands should be a strong rule of thumb to prevent deadly mistakes.

I doubt that Democrat or Republican would contest the above statements.

Davin 07-13-2017 12:01 PM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687380)
Firstly I am not at all Racist at all[...]

Sure, sure. Tell us about your black friend.

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Andrew66 wrote
[...]although I still recognize that African Americans, likely because of past history of persecution and poverty, comprise a subgroup of the population within the USA more prone to committing crimes.

Factually untrue. Why don't you check the crime figures before looking like an ignorant idiot.

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Andrew66 wrote
Police officers unfortunately will tend to associate therefore a black individual as a higher risk for criminal activity. This is an unfortunate reality

Yes, it's an unfortunate reality that cops are irrationally scared of black people. But that's the cops problem.

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Andrew66 wrote
I think a good step in safe guarding innocent African American's during police stops is for all police to mandatorily wear body camera's. This will promote best behaviour on both sides during an altercation. Police should also start friendly , respectful but cautious - and only escalate situations when evidence of threat.

However suspects during a pull over should also be advised to explicitly show there is no threat. Polite demeanor and showing an officer one's hands should be a strong rule of thumb to prevent deadly mistakes.

All of that, and they still get shot. Maybe the ones doing the shooting should be held responsible and not the ones being shot. Your victim blaming is silly and irrational.

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Andrew66 wrote
I doubt that Democrat or Republican would contest the above statements.

What does that have to do with anything, Trump chump?

I know you've conceded to most of my other points and questions, but I still want to know why it matters to you if I'm black or not.

Andrew66 07-13-2017 12:57 PM

It only takes a 3 second google search to find that the incarceration rate of blacks (African Americans) is more than three times higher than their representation in the general population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a..._United_States

Look - Poverty - poor socio economic status breeds crime.

That's why African Americans commit proportionally more crime.

And why US should re-inforce their physical shield from Mexico (which on average is poor compared to America).

Police officers are justified to feel afraid when patrolling poor vs. affluent neighbourhoods. They are justified in fearing an individual in such poor neighbourhood - especially when they are dressed poorly, look scary - and are behaving suspiciously. Can the police help it that those individuals in those neighbourhoods are so often black?

I'm not saying its necessarily the fault of the African American. But until the socio-economic situation in American balances out amidst the races (and this will slowly happen over time) - a dark skinned male will have a higher statistical likelihood of being dangerous than a lighter skinned male, all else equal. I hate that this is true, but it simply is. Police want to get home to their families, can you blame them for being therefore more cautious with African Americans.?

Trump and the Republicans aims to solve this problem by stimulating the economy and creating jobs, good paying jobs. By limiting poverty it lifts all races (especially those who are proportionally poorer) from temptation to commit crime.

The Dems try to solve the racial crime problem through progressive action inititives and by restricting police behaviour. This may help Blacks but it doesn't help solve crime. It also divides the country.

Davin 07-13-2017 01:51 PM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687382)
It only takes a 3 second google search to find that the incarceration rate of blacks (African Americans) is more than three times higher than their representation in the general population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a..._United_States

I hate to make you look even more stupid, but you didn't say "incarceration rate" You said "[...]African Americans [...] within the USA more prone to committing crimes."

Let me know once you've found that. Spoiler: African Americans receive longer and harsher sentences than whites, which means that whites spend less time being incarcerated. If whites received the same harshness and prison terms as blacks, that number for whites would go up a lot.

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Andrew66 wrote
Look - Poverty - poor socio economic status breeds crime.

That's why African Americans commit proportionally more crime.

I'm not so sure about that. There are a lot of crimes committed by wealthy people too. Just because they don't get incarcerated, doesn't mean they didn't commit the crime. Just look and how Hobby Lobby supported terrorism by buying artifacts from them and trying to hide it, and only got a little slap on the wrist.

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Andrew66 wrote
And why US should re-inforce their physical shield from Mexico (which on average is poor compared to America).

Care to back this up? Or is it another of your bullshit unsupported claims? Maybe some kind of study that shows that Mexican immigrants are more prone to crime? Something other than the baseless speculation of morons.

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Andrew66 wrote
Police officers are justified to feel afraid when patrolling poor vs. affluent neighbourhoods. They are justified in fearing an individual in such poor neighbourhood - especially when they are dressed poorly, look scary - and are behaving suspiciously. Can the police help it that those individuals in those neighbourhoods are so often black?

No, the police are not justified to feel afraid when patrolling the people they are supposed to be serving and protecting. It doesn't matter how a person dresses or if the police are chicken shits.

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Andrew66 wrote
I'm not saying its necessarily the fault of the African American. But until the socio-economic situation in American balances out amidst the races (and this will slowly happen over time)

Except... well, why don't you go ahead and support this idea that the socioeconomic situation is balancing out. Spoiler: you can't because it's not happening any more.

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Andrew66 wrote
a dark skinned male will have a higher statistical likelihood of being dangerous than a lighter skinned male, all else equal. I hate that this is true, but it simply is. Police want to get home to their families, can you blame them for being therefore more cautious with African Americans.?

Not true. Notice that the article you cited is a percentage of that race classification. As usuall, you're embarrassingly wrong. Like seriously, you really need to think about what you're saying before you say something so stupid.

Let's say the US population is 320 million. That makes about 205 million white people, and 42 million black people. At those incarceration rates, that makes 80 million white criminals, and 17 million black criminals.

Now given your post history, I'm sure that you have trouble with numbers, but even you have to know that 80 million is a far bigger number than 17 million, right? I mean right? Surely you're not that stupid.

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Andrew66 wrote
Trump and the Republicans aims to solve this problem by stimulating the economy and creating jobs, good paying jobs. By limiting poverty it lifts all races (especially those who are proportionally poorer) from temptation to commit crime.

No, they pretend to aim to solve the problem but in fact just keep giving the wealthy more and more handouts. Giving the 1% more power and the 99% less power. It also limits upward mobility. If you support these fuckers for the reason you just cited, you're a blind idiot that needs to remove their head from Trump's ass and stop being their cuck. I mean, yeah, your blind devotion is hurting me, but it's also hurting you.

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Andrew66 wrote
The Dems try to solve the racial crime problem through progressive action inititives and by restricting police behaviour. This may help Blacks but it doesn't help solve crime. It also divides the country.

The only thing the that they want to restrict, is killing people that police shouldn't be killing.

And while you've gone and conceded to even more of my points and questions, I still want to know why it matters to you if I'm black or not.

dogpet 07-13-2017 01:52 PM

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Davin wrote (Post 687381)
Sure, sure. Tell us about your black friend.

Where's the like button?

Andrew66 07-13-2017 02:45 PM

Davin your views are so off and your objections are for the most part baseless and misleading. I don't think you can be reasoned with.

I wonder if your black because that would at least explain your illogical rants and weak defences, because you've become so emotionally involved in the racial divide situation in the US (likely in view of years of oppression), and especially in light of a tough talking blonde haired blue eyed Prez, that you just can't think logically and clearly on this matter.

Either that or maybe your a Mexican who is just plain insulted that someone dares to call out illegal immigrants as fundamentally criminals. It is against the law to sneak into a country and just stay there you know.

dogpet 07-13-2017 03:06 PM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687385)
It is against the law to sneak into a country and just stay there you know.

You mean like Americans did? Andrew, you're an idiot.

Andrew66 07-13-2017 04:44 PM

The original settlers of America did not "sneak" in. Words matter Yo.
And really that's your best reply,?? WEAK.

dogpet 07-13-2017 09:55 PM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687387)
The original settlers of America did not "sneak" in. Words matter Yo.

Who were the original settlers, Andrew? I've heard they were Mexicans from the frozen north. ;)

Davin 07-14-2017 07:48 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687385)
Davin your views are so off and your objections are for the most part baseless and misleading. I don't think you can be reasoned with.

Haha, that's great coming from someone who doesn't know that 80 million is a bigger number than 17 million. If you don't think you look stupid, you need a better mirror.

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Andrew66 wrote
I wonder if your black because that would at least explain your illogical rants and weak defences

So black people are irrational? Tell me more about how you're not racist.

I mean, go ahead and try to say that I'm being illogical and am using weak defenses. But it doesn't mean much coming from you. Especially since you've conceded to me every single time. As I'm sure you're going to concede to me yet again on this point.

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Andrew66 wrote
because you've become so emotionally involved[...]

Having emotions doesn't mean a person can't be logical. In fact, it's a fallacy to posit that because a person is emotional,that their arguments are illogical. When you commit so many logical fallacies, it doesn't mean anything when you call some one else illogical, especially as baselessly as you do.

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Andrew66 wrote
in the racial divide situation in the US (likely in view of years of oppression), and especially in light of a tough talking blonde haired blue eyed Prez, that you just can't think logically and clearly on this matter.

And yet, I've committed no fallacies and you've committed several. I've understood the data, and you can't manage to tell when one number is bigger than another. I know this personal attack is what all Trump cucks resort to when their deeply flawed logic and ignorance of reality is pointed out to them, but maybe you could try better next time. Try to stand out from the rest of the idiots.

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Andrew66 wrote
Either that or maybe your a Mexican who is just plain insulted that someone dares to call out illegal immigrants as fundamentally criminals. It is against the law to sneak into a country and just stay there you know.

Oh, the high horse of someone who has never broken any laws? Never went 5 over the speed limit? Never changed lanes without signalling? Bullshit. Everyone is fundamentally a "criminal" if the bar is set to "anyone has broken a law." There are so many laws on the books that it's impossible to know them all and therefore impossible to know how many of them you've broken.

And I can't be a middle class white man and have a problem with people treating minorities like second class citizens? I have to be black to care that innocent black people are getting shot by the police? I have to be Mexicans trying to better their situation? I have to be gay in order to want everyone to have equal rights? I think your assumptions say more about you than they do about me.

I look forward to your continued conceding to my points and objections. Keep demonstrating that you know fuck all about what you're talking about and keep on committing those fallacies.

Davin 07-14-2017 07:59 AM

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dogpet wrote (Post 687390)
Who were the original settlers, Andrew? I've heard they were Mexicans from the frozen north. ;)

I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree with Andrew66 on this point. Europeans may have snuck in at first, but then they raped, robbed, enslaved, and murdered millions of the natives. Apparently, Andrew66 wants the Mexicans follow the shining example of the American way. Be wary of blankets that Mexicans give us though.

Fuck, Andrew66, you're so ignorant and stupid. It's almost sad that you get owned so badly every time you say something.

Kinich Ahau 07-15-2017 01:07 AM

The U.S like my own country has big problems around racism, unfortunately many people like our Andrew don't even understand what racism is. I've seen many examples of The right wingnuts saying that people that call out racism are being racist. The fact that he assumes you are black because you call out racism shows that he lacks true empathy and understanding for the plight of others. You have to actually feel empathy, not just think about it because some churches tell you it's part of Christ's message.

Andrew66 07-15-2017 08:32 AM

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Kinich Ahau wrote (Post 687396)
The U.S like my own country has big problems around racism, unfortunately many people like our Andrew don't even understand what racism is. I've seen many examples of The right wingnuts saying that people that call out racism are being racist. The fact that he assumes you are black because you call out racism shows that he lacks true empathy and understanding for the plight of others. You have to actually feel empathy, not just think about it because some churches tell you it's part of Christ's message.

Fuck you

AtomJack 07-15-2017 12:31 PM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687397)
Fuck you

Looks like he got you there! Checkmate atheist! :lol:

Andrew66 07-15-2017 02:19 PM

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AtomJack wrote (Post 687400)
Looks like he got you there! Checkmate atheist! :lol:

Yaaah check mate!!!
Sometimes the F bomb is the only answer to utter useless, incorrect and stupid drivel.
Lets work together to truly make AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!

dogpet 07-15-2017 03:06 PM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687403)
Yaaah check mate!!!
Sometimes the F bomb is the only answer to utter useless, incorrect and stupid drivel.
Lets work together to truly make AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!

We'll call when we need you.

Sinfidel 07-16-2017 02:15 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687397)
Fuck you

Could you give us the Bible reference where you found that greeting?

Sinfidel 07-16-2017 05:00 AM

Republican IQ revealed
 
https://scontent.fybz1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...66&oe=5A09BCD7

Andrew66 07-16-2017 11:57 AM

The US would benefit from a safety , security stand point from re-inforced, preferably impenetrable boarders. If it were economically feasible, the US should be completely encircled by a shield - include even the skies and water ways.
Can anyone argue that it is better security to live in a house with four walls and a lock on the door, or even better a gated community.
The only debate should be how to best secure the boarders given limited fiscal resources/
A Republican would listen to for example an argument that instead of spending X amount of dollars on a boarder wall, security would be better served with the same spending on adding border patrol guards. This is a valid argument which deserves debate.
I heard that Trump wants to put solar panels on the wall (so it would be revenue generating and produce clean energy - wow) and that the wall will actually be "see through" so the boarder guards can see the bad guys coming. !

Sinfidel 07-16-2017 01:38 PM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687412)

The US would benefit from a safety , security stand point from re-inforced, preferably impenetrable boarders.


Having lived in a few boarding houses, I can't say if there are "impenetrable boarders."

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If it were economically feasible, the US should be completely encircled by a shield - include even the skies and water ways.
Since the USA is the world's leading terrorist state, that is a good idea!

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Can anyone argue that it is better security to live in a house with four walls and a lock on the door, or even better a gated community.
Gated communities are occupied by wealthy individuals who want to lock the poor out.

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The only debate should be how to best secure the boarders given limited fiscal resources/
Put them in private prisons where they can be forced to work for pennies a day for industries owned by the rich. Oh wait, aren't we already doing that?

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A Republican would listen to for example an argument that instead of spending X amount of dollars on a boarder wall, security would be better served with the same spending on adding border patrol guards. This is a valid argument which deserves debate.
And then the same Republican would sign a secret deal so his rich pals could keep their underpaid exploited "illegal" agricultural workers.

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I heard that Trump wants to put solar panels on the wall (so it would be revenue generating and produce clean energy - wow) and that the wall will actually be "see through" so the boarder guards can see the bad guys coming. !
Since Mexico is South of the USA, the Solar panels would have to be on the Mexican side of the wall. Mexico could, of course, simply put THEIR Solar panels obstructing the American ones. You are indeed a genius - Trump should have made you Secretary of Energy!

:lol::lol::lol:

Andrew66 07-16-2017 02:50 PM

I spoke with a New Mexico ER Doc, who told me Illegals commonly cross the boarder and then present to hospital for free medical work. The hospital treats them and bills them, but the illegal is usually so poor that they don't pay so the US tax payer picks up the tab.

And all the drugs (heroin, fentanyl, cocaine, meth) that floods across the border.

Build a wall!

Smellyoldgit 07-16-2017 04:40 PM

Yeah, let's build us a wall.

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"In the early days of this task force - and we've been around for 26 years - we saw much higher movement using non-commercial aircraft to fly the drugs northwards.
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"[Now] well over 95% of the drugs are moving on the water via container ships, non-commercial vessels, pleasure boats, sail boats, fishing boats. They also have fast boats which try to outrun our law enforcement assets.
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Last month we interdicted a tunnel in San Diego and seized more than 10 tonnes of marijuana.
Don't see many of these damn boarders getting much through!
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/me...rders-surf.jpg
So with planes, boats & tunnels struttin' their stuff - I reckon an orange clad wall will be a fabulous investment.:rolleyes:

Kinich Ahau 07-16-2017 05:11 PM

I'm becoming board with this discussion now.

Andrew66 07-16-2017 10:58 PM

Need to up the coast guard, police the skies as well as build physical land based walls.

Sinfidel 07-17-2017 06:48 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687414)
I spoke with a New Mexico ER Doc, who told me Illegals commonly cross the boarder and then present to hospital for free medical work. The hospital treats them and bills them, but the illegal is usually so poor that they don't pay so the US tax payer picks up the tab.

And all the drugs (heroin, fentanyl, cocaine, meth) that floods across the border.

Build a wall!

AMAZING, isn't it, that illegal Mexicans can get FREE medical care, while U.S. citizens have to buy insurance! Here's an idea - why don't you go to Mexico, take out Mexican Citizenship, and return to the U.S. illegally so you too can have FREE medical care! Surprising that more of you Americans haven't thought of that, thus avoiding all the controversy about Trumpcare.

:bird:

Sinfidel 07-17-2017 11:54 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687414)
I spoke with a New Mexico ER Doc, who told me Illegals commonly cross the boarder and then present to hospital for free medical work. The hospital treats them and bills them, but the illegal is usually so poor that they don't pay so the US tax payer picks up the tab.

And all the drugs (heroin, fentanyl, cocaine, meth) that floods across the border.

Build a wall!

Absolutely!....the DEA, CIA, and ATF don't like competition! :lol:

Davin 07-18-2017 08:18 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687414)
I spoke with a New Mexico ER Doc, who told me Illegals commonly cross the boarder and then present to hospital for free medical work. The hospital treats them and bills them, but the illegal is usually so poor that they don't pay so the US tax payer picks up the tab.

And all the drugs (heroin, fentanyl, cocaine, meth) that floods across the border.

Build a wall!

That's funny, I spoke with a New Mexico ER Doc who told me that illegals don't cross the boarder, or even "border" for free hospital work.

I've even spoken with a Texas Er doc. An Arizona Er Doc. A California ER Doc. And all of them said the same thing. Since I have more anecdotal evidence, I guess that makes me the winner.

I spoke with a professor and she told me that Andrew66 was the stupidest, most illogical person that she'd ever met. Now you have to believe that's true.

I also heard from a real Mexican, that they have ladders, ropes, as well as shovels.

Davin 07-18-2017 01:32 PM

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Kinich Ahau wrote (Post 687396)
The U.S like my own country has big problems around racism, unfortunately many people like our Andrew don't even understand what racism is. I've seen many examples of The right wingnuts saying that people that call out racism are being racist. The fact that he assumes you are black because you call out racism shows that he lacks true empathy and understanding for the plight of others. You have to actually feel empathy, not just think about it because some churches tell you it's part of Christ's message.

It's funny that they can't even see the obvious. Those who are racist like Andrew66 are blind to reality so harshly, that even basic concepts (like that 80 million > 17 million), elude them when it doesn't match what they want reality to be.

Sinfidel 07-19-2017 03:16 AM

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Davin wrote (Post 687420)

I also heard from a real Mexican, that they have ladders, ropes, as well as shovels.

The Trump administration is way ahead of you - they've ordered truckloads of these signs:

http://www.shockmansion.com/wp-conte...17/02/Hop2.jpg

:thumbsup:

Davin 07-19-2017 07:04 AM

That's probably way more effective than the wall would be.

Andrew66 07-20-2017 05:55 PM

Davin , with respect I must call you out for out right lying - there is no way you have any such counter anecdote.
Don't confuse anecdotal evidence with simple, clear, verifiable testimony from a very credible witness regarding a common truth.

Andrew66 07-20-2017 05:58 PM

Davin,
I'm not trying to be racist, but please explain why it is a fact that per capita, african americans have 3X the incarceration rate of non-african american's.
Is it all corruption and racism within the court's?
I can offer a non-racist suggestion, african americans through no fault of their own come from poverty, and poverty breeds crime?
But I'd like to hear your explanation.

Sinfidel 07-21-2017 01:18 AM

John McCain diagnosed with brain cancer
 
John McCain diagnosed with brain cancer:

McCain's notable accomplishments -

Born into well connected family.

Married into wealth.

Dropped bombs on Vietnamese peasants

Earned nickname "Songbird" while POW

Elected Senator by American voters, known for their intelligence

Picks Sarah Palen running mate in Presidential bid (LOL!)

Licks war criminal Kissinger's ass while defending murder of unarmed civilians during protest.
Calls protestors against East Timor slaughter (given thumbs up by Kissinger)

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"I have never seen anything as disgraceful and outrageous and despicable as the last demonstration that just took place."

“You know, you’re going to have to shut up or I’m going to have you arrested,”

“Get out of here, you lowlife scum.”
Trump should Cancel McCain's gold plated tax payer paid medical insurance.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-...sm=12&fit=max&

Davin 07-21-2017 06:26 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687434)
Davin , with respect I must call you out for out right lying - there is no way you have any such counter anecdote.
Don't confuse anecdotal evidence with simple, clear, verifiable testimony from a very credible witness regarding a common truth.

Too bad for you. I have talked to a few doctors in those four states. I've talked to them in several other states as well. Just because you haven't actually talked to doctors, doesn't mean that I'm also lying.

Davin 07-21-2017 06:41 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687435)
Davin,
I'm not trying to be racist, but please explain why it is a fact that per capita, african americans have 3X the incarceration rate of non-african american's.

Per capita? You have that wrong. Per capita, there are more than four times the amount of white people incarcerated. Do you know what "per capita" means? Do you know that 80 million > 17 million? Because those are the per capita numbers. Just read the wiki page you cited.

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Andrew66 wrote
Is it all corruption and racism within the court's?

Depends on what you mean by corruption.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/17/o...nd-whites.html

Blacks receive longer and harsher sentences than whites for the same crimes. This isn't something new, it's been known for a long time. Only someone who is willfully ignoring reality would have missed it.

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Andrew66 wrote
I can offer a non-racist suggestion, african americans through no fault of their own come from poverty, and poverty breeds crime?
But I'd like to hear your explanation.

You already have, are you really that stupid? Yes, there is a connection between poverty and prosecuted crime, and that's why more whites are in prison than blacks. But there is also a racist component where blacks consistently receive harsher sentences. It's all public record, you can look it up for yourself.

So what is it that preventing you from accepting reality? Is it that reality doesn't follow your racist ideals?

So here's some new things you don't understand:

Per capita - you should have looked up that definition before using it.
80 million > 17 million - Seriously, do you really not understand that?
The difference between "boarder" and "border."

You really are a pretty big cuck for Trump. And it's making you look stupid. If anything, you shouldn't want to look stupid, right?

Davin 07-21-2017 06:49 AM

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Sinfidel wrote (Post 687437)
John McCain diagnosed with brain cancer:
[...]Trump should Cancel McCain's gold plated tax payer paid medical insurance.

McCain has never been one of my favorite politicians, but he was fine until he started running for president. And then when the Republicans needed someone to stand up for their core principles, he stood up for them for a short time and then caved in. I hope that was the result of the brain tumor.

Even so, I don't want even shitty people to die, but then I can't really muster up much empathy either. I wish his health insurance were cancelled out from under him. I wish McCain's insurance company would treat McCain like my father's treated him.

"Oh sure, yeah go ahead with the surgery."
The day of the surgery, "Wait, we won't cover that."
After hours of having to deal with them he finally got approved the surgery, but it had to be rescheduled for a week later.
Then they disputed thousands of dollars of charges that my dad had to pay.

If they had to deal with the shitty side of insurance companies like the rest of us do, they'd sure as fuck fix it.

Sinfidel 07-21-2017 07:30 AM

Every criminal's dream
 
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Yes, President Trump Can Pardon Himself and It’s Not Clear Anyone Can Stop Him




http://lawnewz.com/opinion/looks-lik...-can-stop-him/

Davin 07-21-2017 09:34 AM

Just that he's looking into pardoning his buddies, family, and even himself should be setting off all kinds of red flags.

For politicians in the US, there is more than just innocent until proven guilty, it takes a lot to convict one. And even when convicted, hardly any are punished much if at all. That he's worried that he will need to use pardon powers to get out of this Russia stuff shows that he's worried. I mean, I'm trying to hold onto my subjectivity until I'm presented with all the evidence... but what evidence there is already pointing to some serious shit.

Andrew66 07-21-2017 07:00 PM

Ok Davin (smart ass).

Here is the straight up information about black's in jail - complete with references.

Approximately 12–13% of the American population is African-American, but they make up 35% of jail inmates, and 37% of prison inmates of the 2.2 million male inmates as of 2014 (U.S. Department of Justice, 2014).[2][3]
According to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), African Americans constitute nearly 1 million of the total 2.3 million incarcerated population, and have nearly six times the incarceration rate of whites.[4] A 2013 study confirmed that black men were much more likely to be arrested and incarcerated than white men, but also found that this disparity disappeared after accounting for self-reported violence and IQ.[5] An August 2013, Sentencing Project report on Racial Disparities in the United States Criminal Justice System, submitted to the United Nations, found that "one of every three black American males born today can expect to go to prison in his lifetime".[6][7]

The references are available by the following link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statis...American_males

I'm sorry I guess this is an embarrassment for your race - its not my fault.

Keep hiding between your week lies, spin and false rhetoric.

Your credibility is shit.

Sinfidel 07-22-2017 04:33 AM

As an obvious expert on American Jurisprudence, do tell us about the Emmett Till case, you know, the 14 year old Black kid brutally murdered for the heinous crime of whistling at a white woman.
No wonder the good all white Bible Belt Christian jury quickly found the self confessed killers (relatives of the woman "victim") not guilty.

Certainly proves there is no bias in the U.S. Justice system, doesn't it!

:bird:

Andrew66 07-22-2017 08:25 AM

Sinfidel, as Davin would no doubt point out (if he were bipartisan and honest) - you cite a mere single anecdote - which is weak evidence for a broader more generalized black injustice. Why did the defendants lawyer allow such biased jury members??
Just wondering if you know, what happened to those those 4 shit black kids that kidnapped and terrorized the retarded white kid? Did they get in big trouble??

Andrew66 07-22-2017 09:10 AM

For health care, I'm very sorry Davin your father had to go through what he did.

You are correct - the insurance companies can be very problematic. One has to read the policies and communicate with them like a lawyer - something a well educated attention detailed and highly articulate individual could do, but an elderly or regular folk individual - not so easy.

But what do you propose to be the solution.??

Bernie says that if we tax the rich more that the health care problem goes away - but it isn't that simple. Did you ever see the health care debate between Bernie and Ted Cruz - with respect I felt Ted won that debate. Ted explained that even if the US privatized all the major companies (and used their profits to pay for health care) and took all the money from the top 1% rich - it would only pay for healthcare for a very short time and then what?

Other countries tax the hell out of all their citizens (e.g. Denmark) and their health care is pretty good. The US can adopt this strategy - but unfortunately Hillary and Bernie did not win..

The Republicans tackle the problem a different way - deregulate and increase competition between the insurance companies to drive down cost. A Lasik eye surgery used to cost $6000 but now - because of competition, only costs 450$ - that is the power of free market.

I personally believe every American deserves a base level of free healthcare. As Trump said, he doesn't want citizens "dying in the street". Beyond basic emergency (life and limb) care - under the present system however, citizens must plan, save and pay.

Sinfidel 07-24-2017 06:03 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687458)
Sinfidel, as Davin would no doubt point out (if he were bipartisan and honest) - you cite a mere single anecdote - which is weak evidence for a broader more generalized black injustice. Why did the defendants lawyer allow such biased jury members??
Just wondering if you know, what happened to those those 4 shit black kids that kidnapped and terrorized the retarded white kid? Did they get in big trouble??


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Five teenage boys – commonly known as the Central Park Five – spent the better part of a decade in jail after New York police arrested them for the rape of a white woman while she jogged through the expansive Manhattan park.
Do tell us how your fellow racist, Donald Trump, who you so admire, took out a NY Times ad to promote the execution of the five NON-WHITE boys framed and imprisoned for years for the rape, AFTER they were completely exonerated by a confession and DNA evidence.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-da...tral-park-five

You and your ilk fantasize about killing (n-word) especially when accused of a crime they didn't commit.

Sinfidel 07-24-2017 06:07 AM

Andrew66 wrote http://ravingatheists.com/forum/imag...s/viewpost.gif
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Sinfidel, as Davin would no doubt point out (if he were bipartisan and honest) - you cite a mere single anecdote - which is weak evidence for a broader more generalized black injustice. Why did the defendants lawyer allow such biased jury members??
Do tell us who his court appointed lawyer was - a member of the local KKK? Did the Judge object? :lol:

Sinfidel 07-24-2017 06:18 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687459)

The Republicans tackle the problem a different way - deregulate and increase competition between the insurance companies to drive down cost. A Lasik eye surgery used to cost $6000 but now - because of competition, only costs 450$ - that is the power of free market.

A computer used to cost hundreds of thousands, now can be bought for a few hundred. Do you give Republicans credit for that too? Hey, keep up the trolling, shows how incredibly stupid you Republicans are! Were your parents siblings?

:lol:

Sinfidel 07-24-2017 06:24 AM


Davin 07-24-2017 06:57 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687445)
Approximately 12–13% of the American population is African-American, but they make up 35% of jail inmates, and 37% of prison inmates of the 2.2 million male inmates as of 2014 (U.S. Department of Justice, 2014).[2][3]

What you're pointing to is the current population, not the total amount of people who are incarcerated. If you dug deeper in the citations on that wiki page, you'd see beyond just looking at the current prison populations and you'd look at actual incarceration rates. Which is what I thought you were talking about since you said "incarceration rates." So surprise to me that you don't know that you're talking about.

Whites move through prison faster than blacks because they receive lighter sentences. So four white guys move through the system in the time it takes one black guy.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fsd0512.pdf
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What we find is that black males receive harsher sentences than white males after accounting for the facts surrounding the case, and we also find that the sentencing disparity has grown over the 8 years since Booker.
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Andrew66 wrote
I'm sorry I guess this is an embarrassment for your race - its not my fault.

Yes, you are an embarrassment to the human race.

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Andrew66 wrote
Keep hiding between your week lies, spin and false rhetoric.

Your credibility is shit.

:lol: You've been shown to be wrong in almost everything you've said here. The best sources you've cited are wikipedia pages. This is a bit of the pot calling the moon black.

Davin 07-24-2017 07:04 AM

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Andrew66 wrote (Post 687459)
For health care, I'm very sorry Davin your father had to go through what he did.

I don't give a shit.

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Andrew66 wrote
You are correct - the insurance companies can be very problematic. One has to read the policies and communicate with them like a lawyer - something a well educated attention detailed and highly articulate individual could do, but an elderly or regular folk individual - not so easy.

Actually, it's more than that, insurance companies will often go against their contracts. Also, if you actually read the story, you would have noticed the insurance companies agreed to the surgery then revoked.

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Andrew66 wrote
[...] Did you ever see the health care debate between Bernie and Ted Cruz - with respect I felt Ted won that debate.[..]

No surprise you'd fall for bullshit arguments. You really need to take the GOP's dick out of your ass for a few minutes to think. Stop being their cuck.

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Andrew66 wrote
[...]
I personally believe every American deserves a base level of free healthcare. As Trump said, he doesn't want citizens "dying in the street". Beyond basic emergency (life and limb) care - under the present system however, citizens must plan, save and pay.

And Trump's plan would have reduced the amount of people on health insurance. What to they call people that do the opposite of what they say?

Andrew66 07-24-2017 09:00 AM

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Davin wrote (Post 687474)
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And Trump's plan would have reduced the amount of people on health insurance. What to they call people that do the opposite of what they say?

My understanding is that the only reason the number of insured would be reduced is because a great many people forced to join by Obama, by their own choice, would opt out.

Andrew66 07-24-2017 09:13 AM

Jeez Davin
I don't know it is so crystal clear - there are proportionally (not absolute numbers) more black criminals than white I the USA - there is so many stats to support this.
That you try to contest this basic truth only weakens your credibility.
Ever think that whites statistically get lighter sentences, uhhh, maybe because their crimes or the circumstances weren't as severe?

Andrew66 07-24-2017 09:21 AM

Trump likely is racist, if being a racist is calling out crime and thuggery by the races which tend to perpetuate it the most.
However, if a black man like his cherished friend Ben Carson - is shown to be of law abiding high moral character - then Trump no doubt treats such individual with complete respect and as an equal.


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