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Francis 12-09-2014 05:31 PM

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dogpet wrote (Post 679927)
Nothing but a philosophical exercise, which surely no-one takes seriously other than shitlord #1 (*demoted)'s unnamed scientists.

Francis repeats an ancient headline, in a failed attempt to engage with bright people.

We are an illusion only as far as a necessary vehicle for genes.

Incorrect. Respected physicists have raised the issue in all seriousness. Refusal to inquire by you does not change what mainstream science is questioning.

Further, there are actual scientists who have proposed experiments which they believe would reveal if this reality is or is not a simulation. I have difficulty seeing how this could be so, but at least one scientist thinks the hypothesis could be tested.

By the way, I believe that the scientist who I first heard raise this question on an hour long youtube lecture, was himself an atheist. So your attempts to evade this issue, framed insincerely as 'no one cares', is just completely wrong and blunderingly so

Smellyoldgit 12-09-2014 06:23 PM

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Francis wrote (Post 680071)
Do they actually allow fourteen year old boys to post on this forum?

Yes, we do allow you to post your crass stupidity on this forum.

Kate 12-10-2014 07:11 AM

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ghoulslime 12-10-2014 09:30 AM

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Francis wrote (Post 680071)
Do they actually allow fourteen year old boys to post on this forum?

Why, were you cruising for a new boy friend?

Sinfidel 12-10-2014 02:09 PM

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Francis wrote (Post 680072)
Incorrect. Respected physicists have raised the issue in all seriousness.

Dissenting scientists aren't automagically credible.

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Refusal to inquire by you does not change what mainstream science is questioning.
Little point in inquiring until there is evidence!

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Further, there are actual scientists who have proposed experiments which they believe would reveal if this reality is or is not a simulation. I have difficulty seeing how this could be so, but at least one scientist thinks the hypothesis could be tested.
Since none of us have the wherewithal (or the inclination?) to perform said experiments, we have little choice to wait in anticipation of the results. Of course, it is not uncommon for exotic experiments to give results that provide more questions, rather than answers. There are well credentialed scientists who dispute the distance measurements of pulsars, casting doubt on the incredibly high energy outputs.

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By the way, I believe that the scientist who I first heard raise this question on an hour long youtube lecture, was himself an atheist. So your attempts to evade this issue, framed insincerely as 'no one cares', is just completely wrong and blunderingly so
THis is so similar to the "who created God" problem. Who created and operates the simulator? What if it is another simulator? Like the Turtle theory, maybe it's simulators all the way down!
Where's my copy of Sim City.....

dogpet 12-10-2014 02:24 PM

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Francis wrote (Post 680072)
Incorrect. Respected physicists have raised the issue in all seriousness. Refusal to inquire by you does not change what mainstream science is questioning.

Further, there are actual scientists who have proposed experiments which they believe would reveal if this reality is or is not a simulation. I have difficulty seeing how this could be so, but at least one scientist thinks the hypothesis could be tested.

By the way, I believe that the scientist who I first heard raise this question on an hour long youtube lecture, was himself an atheist. So your attempts to evade this issue, framed insincerely as 'no one cares', is just completely wrong and blunderingly so

Another underhand try by the Frantard to increase the minuscule odds of a fat controller.

You have no interest in the subject Shitlord, nor understanding, except to serve your mendacious purpose.

Your still unnamed sources are laughing up their collective sleeves at you & your like, I've seen them on you tube.

dogpet 12-10-2014 02:56 PM

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Sinfidel wrote (Post 680115)
Where's my copy of Sim City.....

:PThat's the one.

By coincidence we watched a movie called 'The Thirteenth Floor' last friday, have you seen it? Is there any significance to the number thirteen in the title? It could actually be like a, clock face in a 2D universe, where #13 is beyond the clock.
The clockmaker if you will.

Sinfidel 12-10-2014 04:15 PM

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dogpet wrote (Post 680117)
:PThat's the one.

By coincidence we watched a movie called 'The Thirteenth Floor' last friday, have you seen it? Is there any significance to the number thirteen in the title? It could actually be like a, clock face in a 2D universe, where #13 is beyond the clock.
The clockmaker if you will.

Haven't seen it - sounds like fun! Will search on the Net and Roku.

Kinich Ahau 12-10-2014 09:55 PM

I've heard that a lot of buildings especially hotels don't have a 13th floor. I don't think it happens in Australia though.

Francis 12-10-2014 11:37 PM

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Sinfidel wrote (Post 680115)
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THis is so similar to the "who created God" problem. Who created and operates the simulator? What if it is another simulator? Like the Turtle theory, maybe it's simulators all the way down!
Where's my copy of Sim City.....

Incorrect. I am not trying to establish a creator in the form of a nerdy extraterrestrial programmer. I am merely casting doubt upon science and proof. If it is all rigged, then what you rely on - proof - is also an illusion.

That's my point. Please refrain from falsely attributing statements or motives to me. I will freely state them if asked.

dogpet 12-11-2014 03:30 AM

Heh Francis, did you ever try any of calpurnpiso's reality tests from a while back?

Did you bump your head? :lol:

Kate 12-11-2014 06:51 AM

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Davin 12-11-2014 07:25 AM

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Francis wrote (Post 680140)
Incorrect. I am not trying to establish a creator in the form of a nerdy extraterrestrial programmer. I am merely casting doubt upon science and proof.

Why? Do you go around spraying the ocean with water to make sure it's wet? There is already doubt in scientific discovery... the problem you have to defeat, is that even with doubt, science is getting shit done. Even without 100% certainty, science is way better than other method at determining reality.

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Francis wrote
If it is all rigged, then what you rely on - proof - is also an illusion.

Doesn't matter.

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Francis wrote
That's my point. Please refrain from falsely attributing statements or motives to me. I will freely state them if asked.

He didn't attribute statements or motives to you, he pointed out the glaring problems with your statements that you should be embarrassed about.

Kate 12-11-2014 08:57 AM

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Eternal 12-11-2014 09:23 AM

I still can't comprehend fully how people believe if they disprove one thing then the other must be true. What one dimensional deluded thought processes riddled with dishonesty must pass through their handful of brain cells.

Francis said:
I am merely casting doubt upon science and proof. If it is all rigged, then what you rely on - proof - is also an illusion.

So you're trying to establish that proof is equally as unreliable as belief? Therefore truths people know that are evidence and fact based, rather than conjecture and guesswork, are equally as likely to be wrong, and as such, equally as retarded and pointless as a blind faith viewpoint?

This is of course only relevant if we do all in fact live in a giant fucking simulation, which I haven't seen any evidence for, and seems to be purely an idea plucked from someones ass. I had several similar ones in my youth when my brain was under the influence of chemical substances.


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