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inkadu 10-16-2006 06:35 PM

Dawkins mentions two parasites that affect the behavior of it's host. One makes ants crawl up to the tops of grass blades; the other infects rats and makes them act stupid so they can be swallowed by a cat, wherein the parasite can reproduce.

With apologies to Choobus,parasites are way cooler than quantum physics. Back in college, I missed the intro to parasites course, but can anyone recommend a decent introductory text on the critters?

ocmpoma 10-16-2006 06:49 PM

Dunno 'bout parasites, but I've always wanted to read The Ants.

Evil_Mage_Ra 10-16-2006 07:38 PM

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inkadu wrote
Dawkins mentions two parasites that affect the behavior of it's host. One makes ants crawl up to the tops of grass blades; the other infects rats and makes them act stupid so they can be swallowed by a cat, wherein the parasite can reproduce.

With apologies to Choobus,parasites are way cooler than quantum physics. Back in college, I missed the intro to parasites course, but can anyone recommend a decent introductory text on the critters?

You missed the most interesting one of all: A type of parasitic barnacle that attaches to crabs and resembles the crab's egg sac. The crab will take care of the parasite as if it were its egg sac, even if the crab in question is a male. Imagine a parasite that would make a grown man act like a pregnant woman. :)

As far as books, I'm not sure what to recommend on a popular level, though this (really expensive) textbook seems to be exactly what you're looking for.

Rat Bastard 10-16-2006 07:49 PM

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inkadu wrote
Dawkins mentions two parasites that affect the behavior of it's host. One makes ants crawl up to the tops of grass blades; the other infects rats and makes them act stupid so they can be swallowed by a cat, wherein the parasite can reproduce.

With apologies to Choobus,parasites are way cooler than quantum physics. Back in college, I missed the intro to parasites course, but can anyone recommend a decent introductory text on the critters?

To each his own, big guy. I personally find Physics 100 times more interesting that almost any other field of study.

snap crafter 10-16-2006 08:08 PM

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inkadu wrote
Dawkins mentions two parasites that affect the behavior of it's host. One makes ants crawl up to the tops of grass blades; the other infects rats and makes them act stupid so they can be swallowed by a cat, wherein the parasite can reproduce.

With apologies to Choobus,parasites are way cooler than quantum physics. Back in college, I missed the intro to parasites course, but can anyone recommend a decent introductory text on the critters?

To each his own, big guy. I personally find Physics 100 times more interesting that almost any other field of study.

I love psychology, but viral agents and parasites come a close second.

I've always had a leaning toward nature.

inkadu 10-17-2006 04:55 AM

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Dunno 'bout parasites, but I've always wanted to read The Ants.

I think there was a popular edition and a scientific one. I think "Journey to the Ants" is more popular... I started reading one of those, and got bogged down. It's encyclopedic, but throws in some lessons about evolution, specifically some formulas for how completely self-sacrificing critters like ants make sense when you look at the percentage of their genes passed on through their sister queen.

When you look at it closely, nature is just so darn weird. People can't think of things weirder than exist on this world.

Evil Mage Ra: I haven't finished breaking the spell yet, but am excited already about mind-control parasites. All this time, I thought they were just Star Trek inventions (remember that one -- there are actually several episodes which include that theme)... $173 is pretty damn steep; the most I'm willing to go up to is $80. Well, it's an academic topic, so I bet there's an old-edition text book I could get for a song. Well, the OTHER price of a book like that is it's going to make me completely paranoid.

Rat Bastard -- I'd be more interested in Physics if I was better at math. For me, Physics is like having to read really, really slowly.

LEToxin 10-17-2006 05:20 AM

Here is a nice little list WITH some info..

http://www.bogleech.com/bio-para.html

Baphomet 10-17-2006 04:47 PM

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inkadu wrote
Dawkins mentions two parasites that affect the behavior of it's host. One makes ants crawl up to the tops of grass blades; the other infects rats and makes them act stupid so they can be swallowed by a cat, wherein the parasite can reproduce.

With apologies to Choobus,parasites are way cooler than quantum physics. Back in college, I missed the intro to parasites course, but can anyone recommend a decent introductory text on the critters?

You know what would be really cool?

Alien parasites that give you super powers! Mwhahahaha!

inkadu 10-17-2006 05:49 PM

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Project Pitchfork-ToXiN wrote
Here is a nice little list WITH some info..

http://www.bogleech.com/bio-para.html

Thanks. I felt pleasantly queasy after that. Especially the parasite that infects the eye stalks of snails. :vomit:

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Alien parasites that give you super powers! Mwhahahaha!

Actually, I think I read somewhere that people are looking a viruses as delivery vehicles for gene therapy...

I wouldn't mind carrying an alien parasite, especially if it gave me super powers (and, yes, there is a star trek ng episode about just that!)

Baphomet 10-17-2006 06:04 PM

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inkadu wrote
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Project Pitchfork-ToXiN wrote
Here is a nice little list WITH some info..

http://www.bogleech.com/bio-para.html

Thanks. I felt pleasantly queasy after that. Especially the parasite that infects the eye stalks of snails. :vomit:

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Baphomet wrote
Alien parasites that give you super powers! Mwhahahaha!

Actually, I think I read somewhere that people are looking a viruses as delivery vehicles for gene therapy...

I wouldn't mind carrying an alien parasite, especially if it gave me super powers (and, yes, there is a star trek ng episode about just that!)

I was refering to venom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venom_%28comics%29

But yeah, gene therapy still sounds pretty cool.

darwinfish 10-17-2006 10:52 PM

I had a bio prof who was/is (?) trying to use a disabled flu virus to kill off tumors...since the flu apparently needs to wipe out p53 and in tumors it's usually already defective. you just give someone a flu virus that is unable to knock out p53 and the only cells the flu can infect and kill are tumor cells. simple in theory eh? I only know as much about it as was mentioned in class...

Facehammer 10-18-2006 04:51 AM

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inkadu wrote
Actually, I think I read somewhere that people are looking a viruses as delivery vehicles for gene therapy...

Looking at? Viruses have been used as vectors for synthesised DNA for years.

Baphomet 10-18-2006 09:05 AM

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inkadu wrote
Actually, I think I read somewhere that people are looking a viruses as delivery vehicles for gene therapy...

Looking at? Viruses have been used as vectors for synthesised DNA for years.

so it's only a matter of time before they make a zombie virus then?

snap crafter 10-18-2006 10:56 AM

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inkadu wrote
Actually, I think I read somewhere that people are looking a viruses as delivery vehicles for gene therapy...

Looking at? Viruses have been used as vectors for synthesised DNA for years.

so it's only a matter of time before they make a zombie virus then?

That's why I've been harping preparedness over the ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST that is bound to happen!

How to prepare? Have an escape plan, sleep with your weapons, and take up jogging/bike riding.

Oh, and avoid cities.

leave my name out! 10-18-2006 12:36 PM

I hope to never be infected by the christianity parasite! Always lay down tissue on the seat before using public toilets I say!


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