Veridican Theory of Hell
When we die, we go on to the next phase of life if, and only if, we have been converted into the spiritual nature of Christ. That next phase of life is similar to a lucid dream where the individual has vastly greater powers of creation and choice than they have in this physical world. And there are phases beyond that which I won’t go into in this post.
However, if one is not converted to the oneness of Christ, there is no way for them to enter this phase of life. These deformed spirits are in no way mature enough to handle such power, and God is not going to suffer their participation in it. Such an individual must be destroyed, or if they knew about Christ and rejected him, then they may well be punished for the pleasure of God (hell). Jesus described hell as burning, outer darkness, weeping and anguish (gnashing of teeth). And this is actually quite necessary from a philosophical perspective. God is the source of all pleasure. Our entire being is attracted to God, and all the pleasures we seek on earth are mere surrogates for the real pleasure we seek in God. If we are cast away from God so that we, for eternity, can never attain or even move toward that real pleasure we were designed to seek, then in an eternal environment we will suffer the torments of what is considered hell. It’s a simple formula: to want something with all of your being and be faced with the inevitability of eternal separation from it is--ultimately--torture. Burning, weeping, anguish, and darkness, are good analogies when applied to a spiritual being separated from God in eternity. Keep in mind: In this life we at least have an end to our suffering. We die. But in hell, there is no death. There is an eternity of never having what you most desire. If one could go to death ignorant or guessing whether God is real or not, there might be some relief, so ability to deny the desire. But when the atheist goes to hell, they will do so knowing that God exists. |
Ghoulslimian Theory of Hell
While honest and intelligent people are trying to live their one and only lives, douche bag's with nonsensical theories about nonexistent supreme beings and imaginary afterlives will continually postulate their delusions to people who don't give a single hummingbird poop to hear this bullshit. This is pure hell.
But when deluded theist conmen die, they will do so believing that they will get an imaginary reward for being assholes while alive, until the lights go out, and then they will be dead, just like the atheists. |
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But when I read something like you wrote, and I think of the mind that wrote it, and then I think of the intention God had for your life when he imagined you and created you, and how great that insult would be to Him, I for one have no problem with the concept of hell. And this is the thing--hell exists for the pleasure of God, so it is surely going to happen. In hell, you won't have the surrogate pleasures that stand in for what you truly desire, like you do here on earth. These surrogates exist simply by the grace and mercy of God for the time that we are here and in spiritual training. In hell, you will only want God, but you will be separated eternally from Him. You don't understand this suffering now, because you won't actually think about it. You won't let yourself imagine it. But it's coming for you, Ghoulslime. You need to think about it. You need to consider Pascal's Wager. |
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Oh joy. :rolleyes: I reckon the fuckwit's blog must be back at zero traffic and he's either been thrown off the other forums he pollutes or reached saturation of being ridiculed - that means it's our turn for a dose of his stupid.
Good to see E-bore back in his fantasy land of made up bollocks, spiced with a finger sniff of anal action. |
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You can sit here and bitch about how wrong hell is. That won't change anything. You should really take some time to think about God and His existence and what is expected of you by your Creator. Why are you unwilling to do that? |
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In the very wee hours of the morning, you're on together. You have the same sexual dsyfunction, and your tone is exactly the same. He's supposed to be in California and you in England. There's no way you'd all be on at this time together. How come it is unless I'm in here, the posts go two and three days without responses? Maybe you need to make up some more people to populate your forum with. No wonder you won't ban me. |
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At times like this, I ask myself - What would honey badger do ? |
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If you are really that scared of death that you need to create such fantasy to alleviate your fears, then you sir are a bigger pussy than most. Where do you start when creating this shit? You have no piece of evidence to start from. You are like a writer who is just making up pure fantasy.
I live safe in the knowledge that you are a deluded fuckwit and haven't a clue what your on about. You are just spouting very similar bollocks to what you have heard elsewhere. If there is a just God then plenty of the atheists that lead very good lives etc will go to heaven. If he is not just, then he isn't worthy of being called God. Or do you believe that the only condition of eternal bliss is belief. So pedophiles and rapists and murderers are all welcome, whilst someone who dedicates their life to charity is not? Go Fuck Yourself, then go fuck your god. |
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How the fuck can anyone take this jerk seriously? I think he's testing his new book on us - just before it plummets to the top of the all time worst sellers list. Jeez, what a fucking prick he is. :rolleyes: I think I'll log in in my Ghoulslime personna and agree with myself - then pretend I'm one of the Aussies and give myself a jeebus style reacharound .... |
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When he sez the atheist, which atheist is it, why just the one atheist, was there a raffle ? Does the one atheist know its them... is it me ? :eh: Hope its me, I never win anything, Being the only atheist in hell would give me a bit of street cred, :cool: Do I need to put my name forward or sumting ? fuck me I'm all excited and shit...:D |
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I'm The Atheist. I even have the tiara to prove it.
http://www.nexternal.com/masquerade/images/31626-m.jpg |
Aw, bullocks.....
I just new it wasn't goin to be me. So you are The atheist wot is going to hell. I bet you feel like the mutts nuts doncha. You'll be like all swanning about the place, on fire and shit. giving it "oo look at me bitches I is in torment cos I is THE atheist." And I bet you have a big old fancy frock for the occasion. I so wanted that fucking gig........... guess I'll just send the frock back then :mad: |
I feel so odd being the only one that posted a serious reply to Egor.
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I'm guessing you must because somehow you believe you've spoken to someone in this so-called "next phase of life". Or perhaps you truly believe god is speaking to you, I don't know. Either way, what I guess I'm asking is how is it so that you could possibly know what happens after we die? Secondly, without invoking/hiding behind your "one with jesus" clause, why should we listen to a YOU? Why am I not better off "talking" to "jesus/god" myself and deciding he's told me that there is no afterlife? I know you've said that we should all go off and "create our own religion", but if that's the case why are you trying to tell me to believe what you believe? Quote:
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So...uh...god's the supernatural version of a cocktease? Are you sure that's what you want us to believe? While I'm here, I was looking up Schadenfreude (deriving pleasure from other's suffering - of course the Germans have a word for it), and found this little gem on it: The philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer mentioned Schadenfreude as the most evil sin of human feeling, saying famously "To feel envy is human, to savor schadenfreude is devilish." I think you're worshipping the wrong one. Quote:
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I almost spilled my coffee. If you think they have the same tone, you are not reading very carefully. Quote:
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Egor's Theory of Hell by Religious Indoctrination
evidence=0 standby to confirm bullshit... |
Life is all about perception Egor. You ideas have come about as a direct result of your life thus far. Our ideas have done the same. We can back our ideas up with evidence and reason, you cannot. It is not your fault, you are just yet to learn what is required to make such large assertions.
An example of how perception can deceive. How Egor views himself. http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/...esusclouds.jpg How we view Egor http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/...t-crap-big.jpg |
ooohh.. another one-
Egor's Theory of Hell by Mental Retardation |
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What a delightful imaginary friend EGOr has! It is no wonder people like him turn out to be so twisted and perverse! He is soooooo fucked when he dies and finds out that indeed the Leprechauns (blessed be their ale) are going to pee in his dirty mouth for saying all of the wicked things that he has in life. |
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Smelly, did you know that you and I are the same person in EGOr's world. Would you mind getting the oil in my car changed today, man? |
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Let me empty out Smelly's wallet right now! |
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I absolutely CANNOT believe that he thinks you two are one and the same. Still laughing! |
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who wants a sloppy seconds rim job with a used poker eh, I are starting to think that all this god and hell bollocks is, erm, bollocks |
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Egor's Theory of Hell by Constant Masturbation...
"man this shit hurts like Hell!"...fap fap fap fap |
Wow I buy it. It all sounds so plausable. What next Egor? How can I avoid hell. Can I get out of it if I say I believe in Jesus and God? Oh woe is me. Save me Jesus. Praise God and Jesus. You win, now off you toddle, you have saved me.
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Throw some serious crazy on him. He's inviting you to do just that. |
Ah - I miss Sevenseseseess and his real crazy :)
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There may actually be a lake of fire where spirits are made to feel pain in a way that is exactly like burning in physical life, but I tend to think that when Jesus talks of that, he is being figurative. Quote:
You are better off talking to God yourself. But if he tells you there is no afterlife, then you might as well ignore him and move on as an atheist. If we are not eternal, the eternal nature of God doesn't matter to us, we would simply be like the animals. I know you've said that we should all go off and "create our own religion", but if that's the case why are you trying to tell me to believe what you believe? I would rather you created your own religion than to be an atheist. However, I have to back off that statement. Things have changed a bit. Now, I realize that Veridicanism is the only religion that one should adhere to, it is the only one that offers the theological knowledge of the proper realtionship between God, Christ and man. There has been a slight change to the second tenet, and we realized we had to chisel this in stone before The Veridican Gospel of Jesus Christ came out (which is at the printer now). The second tenet said simply "Be Christ." Now we say, "Be one with Christ." In the past, I was sloppy. My wife and I were the only Veridicans and we were simply mystical in our relationship with God, there was no reason to consider the tenets beyond our own use of them. But now we are going public. To say "Be Christ" means that one individual would be the totality of Christ and it would necessarily exclude anyone else from being Christ. But that has never been what was meant, not since 1993. Christ is one monistic thing like God. We are transformed into Christ when we are born again. But when others are as well then we become one with them, because they are one with Christ. I say all this to make a point: In the first version "Be Christ" you could go off and start whatever religion you want. After all how could you be wrong. But when you are one with Christ, then you become one with all those who are one with Christ, the Gospel message then becomes as possible reality (love your neighbor as yourself), and a central philosophy develops. With the publication of this first book related to Veridicanism, everything gets chisled in stone that is already out there about Veridicanism. And thank God, He told us just in time how to modify this as a public religion rather than a private one. Imagine everyone out there as their own individual Christ! That's fine when there's only two people who are Veridicans and they're already one through marriage, but imagine Smelly or Gouhlslime out there as their own version of Christ. It would be downright satanic. You should feel blessed: For better or worse, you are watching the birth of a new religion in America. Just from a sociological perspective it should be interesting to you to see how it goes. Quote:
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You're just another liar, Egor. There is no magical, disembodied white man talking to you. If you even believe what you're saying, it's just your own derangement impinging on whatever sanity you might possess.
Hell is not a demonstrable fact. It's faith-filled supposition, and of the deranged variety. You keep advising folks here to talk to god, but since you can't explain to anyone what that is, the best we can do is talk to you, and you do not appear to be in the habit of listening to others. Quote:
Not sure why you think there ought to be an eternal reward for such commonplace business but, once again, there is no evidence that there is. |
Egor, you may believe you talk to God, but are you sure it's not just voices in your head? Good thing you don't live in Joan of Arc's time.
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I just typed a really long response. I was so bored shitless reading it back to myself that I deleted the whole thing and decided to just settle for this instead.
Go away. |
I also just noticed that I have passed the 666 post mark and I didn't even notice. It must be a sign that as it didn't stand out to me I have accepted my eternal damnation.
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Egor's Theory of Hell by Natural Delusion
teh voices...teh quiet voices tell me stuff. |
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You're certainly not in a position to tell others what allegedly inaudible entities are speaking to them, because you would have no way of knowing that. |
Egor, Does god tell you why the traffic to your blog totally dried up?
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And "I just know" isn't a response based on reason, so don't even think about saying that. If a deity is truly communicating to you, it can be identifiable, measurable, and quantifiable. |
EGOr, if the gospels are the inerrant word of god as you maintain, why do you need to write your own version?
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Besides, I'm thinking of starting a forum. |
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If you admit that your interaction with God can't be identifiable and measurable, then it's all a fabrication of your mind, period. |
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I would make your blog successful before considering a forum. If you can't even achieve decent traffic on your blog then a forum would be like tumbleweed town. Quote:
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You are an intellectual fraud, you have no idea of your own hypocrisy. |
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How do you know you are not being deceived by satan? The gospels have been good enough for god for the last 2000 years. Isn't a more likely explanation that some evil spirit is slowly trying to get you to guide people away from gods teachings, slowly manipulating you to get you further from the truth in small steps so you find it more acceptable. |
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Egor. Please. Think about what you've been saying. It sounds unbalanced, though I certainly and sincerely hope that's all it is. If you think God talks to you in thought, isn't that the same thing as hearing voices in your head? Semantics aside, a two way conversation in your mind between you and "someone else" sounds creepy to me. You may need to examine the way you're talking about your god in order not to sound crazy. And that's leaving aside everything about whether the god you describe (or any god for that matter) exists. You're a medical professional, Egor. Get help if you need to. |
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See? I told you~
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Why do you then think we as atheists should be accountable for ours. Is god not allowing us being atheists to happen too. Double standard methinks. |
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You stated that if you are being deceived then it is gods will. So why is us being atheists not gods will, and how is it any different from your position. If you are being deceived then aren't you equally wrong. Probably actually more wrong, as I just deny his existence, you actively seek to turn people away from his message with your own polluted interpretations. Don't worry, I will save you a seat at our table in hell. |
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Or are you afraid that you'll discover that you're delusional after all? |
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this person is so seriously deluded, i fear it has real mental issues. sometimes it is better to ban....sometimes....this person has me really worried....this is not normal...
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You're lying Egor: either you're lying about talking to god or you're lying about what he said. Because I just called him last night for a booty call and he said that Hell is just a 5 star resort that everyone in Heaven has on a time share. It was just greatly over exaggerated by a bunch of people and became a running gag that unfortunately was taken out of context by some goat herding dudes a long time ago.
That is straight from gods mouth. |
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.... currently relaxing with a glass of Burgundy, a Camembert butty and free i-plod interwebs in Val d'Isere.
Good to see our resident fuckwit is still producing his standard bollocks. |
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Yes, the stupid seems to be gaining momentum. As with most things that gain momentum though, sooner or later he will trip and everything will fall to shit. When this happens I suspect a psychiatric nurse may be needed. |
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My scientific conclusion (minus) Delusional = Full of Shit which would infer Full of Shit + Delusional = My scientific conclusion I don't think that adds up? |
A simple question in the end
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I want to do the will of my Father in heaven; that's it. I don't want followers; I don't want to be regarded in any way. I want to do what I was created to do. That's it. Quote:
Why is that? Because I said you might be an atheist because God has pulled away from you? Quote:
That's probably accurate. I realize it sounds delusional to say that God told me to synthesize the Gospels and start the Veridican religion, especially when there are no other Veridicans but my wife and I. But I weighed all that a long time ago, and this is the conclusion I came to. If I am deluded, so what? I would rather be delusional with the courage to speak what I believe is the truth, than to stifle that truth out of fear of a negative social reaction. When I compare the two types of individual I'm referring to, I'd rather be the guy with the courage to carry a cardboard sign around the streets than to be the guy who's afraid of what people will think of him. And here's the other thing: In every forum where I write, I draw a crowd, and it's been that way for years and years. There are others in these forums who are considered delusional, and no one pays them any mind. Me, they pay mind to. An insult from me seems to be worth a hundred insults from you. Bad behavior from me, seems to be far more important than bad behavior on your part. In here, my avatar is changed, my signature is changed, and I dominate almost the entire forum when my posts appear. So, there's a disconnect somewhere... If I'm so delusional, why am I so important? :\ |
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That's quite possibly the most/first truthful thing you've written here. Kudos to you. Quote:
If I remember correctly, "Veridican" is supposed to mean "truth seeker" or something similar to that. It is through your search for truth that you find yourself communicating with god and re-establishing your faith and blah blah. If that is the case, then (although not in the same way), our own searches for truth (our "veridicanism" you could say) and our subsequent "conversations with god" have led us to being told that "there is no afterlife, we are better moving on with our lives as atheists". Quote:
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You are not important, you are inflammitory. That gets responses.
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I'm running out of time to get somewhere, so I skimmed your post but i think I got the gist. If you're so important, why have you not succeeded at convincing anyone? |
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