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Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-25-2008, 04:40 PM
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Posted By SteveG
There was absolutely no rage intended. I mean it...

There was absolutely no rage intended. I mean it very sincerely.

You propose that anything over 15,000 is gravy, and when I suggest and hope for you to live by your own ethic, you take it as...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-25-2008, 04:02 PM
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Posted By SteveG
I can see what you are arguing (as much as I...

I can see what you are arguing (as much as I disagree), but again, the only way to do this is through force. People will simply not give up the most basic thing to any species, reproduction, without...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-25-2008, 01:14 PM
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Posted By SteveG
But f-load is relative. If there are 1,000...

But f-load is relative.

If there are 1,000 people on the plant and then the population Ďexplodesí to 1,000,000, that might look like a f-load to the original 1,000, but if the population then...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-25-2008, 08:07 AM
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Posted By SteveG
In the meantime, to maybe shed light on why I...

In the meantime, to maybe shed light on why I reacted as I did, I want to point out that in this, your initial comment, you accused me of opposing all types of conservation (I did no such thing). ...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-25-2008, 08:01 AM
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Posted By SteveG
UBS...I am thinking of giving this one last go...

UBS...I am thinking of giving this one last go just for grins. My prior frustration is born of the fact that my perception was that you 1) had not carefully read what I had posted and 2) were in...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 06:03 PM
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Posted By SteveG
I honestly don't know how to communicate with...

I honestly don't know how to communicate with someone with such a glaring lack of ability to think coherently, or with any kind of meaningful context regarding a discussion.

It does not surprise me...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 04:04 PM
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Posted By SteveG
What does counting patents have to do with...

What does counting patents have to do with enforced population limits in this case. You asked me what's wrong with population control when there is no apocalypse involved. If there is no real...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 01:01 PM
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Posted By SteveG
Yes, I am unequivocally opposed to such policies....

Yes, I am unequivocally opposed to such policies. If you don't know why and can't see the inherent abuse, I am not sure where to even start. Hint: it has something to due with giving the state...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 12:54 PM
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Posted By SteveG
dang! misread your reply...my comment makes no...

dang! misread your reply...my comment makes no sense.
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 12:53 PM
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Posted By SteveG
No, I saw an incredibly weak analysis by one...

No, I saw an incredibly weak analysis by one expert, who seems to have little or no support, and for good reason.

He did his analysis using U.S. Patent information, and an arbitrary list from a...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 12:39 PM
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Posted By SteveG
A place where we are in total agreement! How...

A place where we are in total agreement! How often does that happen?:think:
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 12:31 PM
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Posted By SteveG
ahh...so you can google and know how to spell...

ahh...so you can google and know how to spell rate and innovation...but did you actually read the article?

From the article....

But artificial intelligence expert Ray Kurzweil - who formulated...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 12:06 PM
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Posted By SteveG
Is nuclear energy bound by that constraint? In...

Is nuclear energy bound by that constraint?

In addition, that analysis seems to neglect to account for the energy already stored from eons of already stored solar energy that has been directed...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 12:04 PM
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Posted By SteveG
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Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 11:59 AM
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Posted By SteveG
First, I have to say that I find it interesting...

First, I have to say that I find it interesting that I (the theist) am the one suddenly in the position of defending our growth in understanding, and technology while the folks 'generally' thought to...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 09:56 AM
Replies: 98
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Posted By SteveG
Admittedly bad phrasing there. Hopefully my point...

Admittedly bad phrasing there. Hopefully my point was not lost. That we seem to have a pretty big capacity to imagine, and an increasingly impressive track record on making what we imagine come to...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 09:02 AM
Replies: 98
Views: 20,744
Posted By SteveG
EXACTLY!! Thank you for proving my point! ;-P

EXACTLY!! Thank you for proving my point! ;-P
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-24-2008, 08:43 AM
Replies: 98
Views: 20,744
Posted By SteveG
I was referring to the analysis you offered a few...

I was referring to the analysis you offered a few posts back. Youíve since clarified that itís not static (that it attempts to account for advances), but it still seems to me to be very obviously...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-22-2008, 06:21 PM
Replies: 98
Views: 20,744
Posted By SteveG
I am leery of coming on to strong here seeing as...

I am leery of coming on to strong here seeing as this topic in general is something that is really in your wheelhouse, so Iíll attempt to tread lightly.

For now though, I stand by the position...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-19-2008, 12:32 PM
Replies: 98
Views: 20,744
Posted By SteveG
No, you might not venture such a suggestion.

No, you might not venture such a suggestion.
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-19-2008, 12:25 PM
Replies: 98
Views: 20,744
Posted By SteveG
Fair enough, but the plain reality is that I...

Fair enough, but the plain reality is that I won't have any free time to do that in the near future. Do you have a good book (doesn't have to be Environmentalism for dummies) that you'd recommend? ...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-19-2008, 12:17 PM
Replies: 98
Views: 20,744
Posted By SteveG
From Skribbs OP.. "Population Since we have a...

From Skribbs OP..

"Population
Since we have a fuckload of people on Earth already, I think that you should only be able to have at the very most 2 children, and in some countries the limit should be...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-19-2008, 12:03 PM
Replies: 98
Views: 20,744
Posted By SteveG
Isn't this type of analysis unnecessarily static...

Isn't this type of analysis unnecessarily static and a bit myopic?

It doesn't at all account for the seemingly obvious reality that resource levels and future acquisition is not going to remain...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-19-2008, 10:23 AM
Replies: 98
Views: 20,744
Posted By SteveG
I don't think the two necessarily have to go...

I don't think the two necessarily have to go together, but often do. In my case they do. I am extremely skeptical of the Global Warming hysteria*, but at least in my own reading, the two positions...
Forum: Atheist/Theist Morality 06-19-2008, 10:05 AM
Replies: 98
Views: 20,744
Posted By SteveG
Um...OK. Whatever dude.

Um...OK. Whatever dude.
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