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Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-14-2015, 04:20 PM
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Posted By Drew_2013
I know you will say this is hard to believe but I...

I know you will say this is hard to believe but I endeavor to be a genuine inquirer and try to get to the truth of the matter which is what I am most interested in. If its true we owe our existence...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-14-2015, 04:17 PM
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Posted By Drew_2013
Michael, Quote: From the sound...

Michael,

Quote:
From the sound of things you are American, or at the very least suffer from an odd bout of international Americentralism.
I do suffer from that but USA...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-13-2015, 06:40 PM
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Posted By Drew_2013
I think the word unnatural is a misnomer because...

I think the word unnatural is a misnomer because I don't know what's unnatural about someone arranging toothpicks in a design. The pattern in a snowflake is considered natural (meaning not the result...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-13-2015, 09:01 AM
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Posted By Drew_2013
Hello Michael, As a PR campaign it is an...

Hello Michael,

As a PR campaign it is an unmitigated disaster. By and large atheists are viewed as the armpits of humanity and a forum like this does little to dispel that notion. Much of the time...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-12-2015, 12:08 PM
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Posted By Drew_2013
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-shadows.h...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-shadows.html...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-12-2015, 10:35 AM
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Posted By Drew_2013
Michael, I'm not making an argument for...

Michael,

I'm not making an argument for fine-tuning in this thread, when I did in the case for theism thread I cited a well respected atheist scientist to support my contention.

Secondly atheists...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-10-2015, 11:35 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 23,246
Posted By Drew_2013
Michael, A few things first. This discussion...

Michael,

A few things first. This discussion isn't a formal debate I'm not going to look up sources for every thing I say. If I state something egregious it will be your opportunity to jump all over...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-09-2015, 10:38 AM
Replies: 63
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Posted By Drew_2013
The parable of a puddle...that's a good one. Its...

The parable of a puddle...that's a good one.

Its odd how so many folks bring up this argument but never really say what it implies. Correct me if I'm wrong but what it implies is that life adapted...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-09-2015, 10:21 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 23,246
Posted By Drew_2013
In response to Michael, I don't recall during...

In response to Michael,

I don't recall during our lengthy debate you citing excerpts from these writings you refer to. Haven't you read them?

That can be said of any opinion or belief. Its what a...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-08-2015, 09:22 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 23,246
Posted By Drew_2013
Yes primarily because atheists rarely try to make...

Yes primarily because atheists rarely try to make a case from evidence that favors their point of view. Instead they either go into their weak atheism dance in which they say they don't have the...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-07-2015, 06:51 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 23,246
Posted By Drew_2013
Not atheists...:D A fair and impartial (as much...

Not atheists...:D
A fair and impartial (as much as possible) review of available evidence.
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-07-2015, 04:21 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 23,246
Posted By Drew_2013
Of course they have a point...it might be true...

Of course they have a point...it might be true God (Creator, Designer, Engineer) doesn't exist and we owe our existence to mindless mechanistic laws of nature and nothing more. Unlike most atheists I...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-07-2015, 03:19 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 23,246
Posted By Drew_2013
Where have you seen these smart boys and girls...

Where have you seen these smart boys and girls you speak of? I haven't noticed any on this board. If you as a smart atheist can't convince your fellow weak atheists to render the opinion God doesn't...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 03-07-2015, 02:37 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 23,246
Posted By Drew_2013
If I were an Atheist

First I would have to come to grips with the fact that in spite of a decline in religious attendance and participation atheism isn’t a growing movement. It’s not just an issue of popularity....
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-16-2014, 10:05 AM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
Reply to Davin, I've already gone through that. I...

Reply to Davin,
I've already gone through that. I plan to summarize entire argument when I get around to it.

The five lines of evidence I have presented so far favor the belief the universe and...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-15-2014, 02:44 PM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
For most people it is exactly that, a universe...

For most people it is exactly that, a universe exists, we exist therefore we are the result of non-intelligent forces that somehow came into existence and somehow (without trying to) wound up...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-13-2014, 02:48 PM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
Michael wrote: I agreed an atheist or...

Michael wrote:



I agreed an atheist or naturalist could say the existence of the universe, life and sentient life is evidence in favor of it being caused by mechanistic mindless lifeless forces...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-13-2014, 01:47 PM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
I question whether you understand the analogy and...

I question whether you understand the analogy and how it might apply or whether you just copied and pasted as atheists often do...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-11-2014, 06:23 PM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
Why don't you explain what you think that means...

Why don't you explain what you think that means and how you believe it applies to the conversation we're having Otherwise I'm liable to think you just repeat something you heard cause you thought it...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-11-2014, 05:21 PM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
Last word on Why

A while back I submitted three lines of evidence in favor of theism.

1. The fact the universe exists

2. The fact life exists

3. The fact sentient life exists.

I mentioned that if these things...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-11-2014, 10:20 AM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
I said baloney last time to be nice...how about...

I said baloney last time to be nice...how about bullshit? Asking why doesn't presume anything except perhaps in your own mind. How and why are two sides of the same coin. One attempts to discover...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-10-2014, 10:25 PM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
I'm not sure what you clods have in mind by...

I'm not sure what you clods have in mind by asking me these questions.

WMAP Can Measure the Age of the Universe

Measurements by the WMAP (http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/news/facts.html) satellite can...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-10-2014, 10:15 PM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
Baloney, we ask why to just about everything...

Baloney, we ask why to just about everything whether we think it leads to a mechanistic answer or not. We have compelling reason to ask why because in every case in which we could solve the answer...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-09-2014, 09:39 PM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
I'm a philosophical theist not a religious one....

I'm a philosophical theist not a religious one. On balance I believe the evidence favors a theistic theory over a mechanistic one.

I don't simply exclude a Creator as the cause of everything. Its...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 12-09-2014, 08:49 PM
Replies: 630
Views: 78,791
Posted By Drew_2013
This is where you're all fouled up GS. You don't...

This is where you're all fouled up GS. You don't have to prove God doesn't exist, you just have to make a better case with more explanatory power as to why we should think mindless forces...
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