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Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-18-2008, 05:20 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Or, don't carry your theist load of burning coals...

Or, don't carry your theist load of burning coals from Hell into the kitchen in the first place.
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-15-2008, 05:14 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Right, sorry.

Right, sorry.
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-14-2008, 08:32 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
You got, perhaps, something against fine and...

You got, perhaps, something against fine and dandy?
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-14-2008, 08:31 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Arte Johnson in "Laugh-In" in Nazi costume. "......

Arte Johnson in "Laugh-In" in Nazi costume. "... but stupid!"
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-14-2008, 08:29 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Except that anarchy is not the happiest nor the...

Except that anarchy is not the happiest nor the least suffering way to live, totally unrelated to morality or God's great plan.

To non-sociopaths, it feels good to do nice things and to prevent...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-14-2008, 08:26 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Pretty simple, they or people around them can...

Pretty simple, they or people around them can convince them that they commit sins and they will believe it just like they must believe that they have free will.
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-14-2008, 08:23 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Indeed! After all, Satan is a threat to God...

Indeed! After all, Satan is a threat to God otherwise there could never be a battle of any sort between them.
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-14-2008, 09:22 AM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Quite right! Good on ye, mate! V-cookie wending...

Quite right! Good on ye, mate! V-cookie wending its way via either[sic] net. :)
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-13-2008, 09:27 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
"To tell the truth, my great grandmother was...

"To tell the truth, my great grandmother was Dutch." [v-cookie for ref]
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-11-2008, 11:41 AM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Not to dispute what you just said and I hope this...

Not to dispute what you just said and I hope this doesn't rile the waters, but, in my neck of the woods the phrase "to show you the door" is a semi-polite way to say "throw you out in the street like...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-08-2008, 07:31 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Quite right. We simply recognize the inevitable...

Quite right. We simply recognize the inevitable attempt to act justly and proceed. I do think, though, that a lack of free will makes "punishment" nonsense. Certainly we must separate the...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-07-2008, 04:34 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-07-2008, 04:26 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Ignoring God*, a refreshing break for a few...

Ignoring God*, a refreshing break for a few moments, there is still concern over the free will issue. Many people think that being without free will would make any punishment for any crime unjust...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-07-2008, 04:08 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
That is a self-contradiction. The end is only...

That is a self-contradiction. The end is only certain if we cannot change the events that build to that end.

For example, if God* knows exactly what choice you will make at your next opportunity...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-06-2008, 06:22 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
? I learned it as "...Harold be thy...

? I learned it as "...Harold be thy name!"
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-06-2008, 06:20 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
I, as the poster of that next post, did so before...

I, as the poster of that next post, did so before seeing your post and so it had no effect on whether or not I posted. The compulsion for my post was primarily, but not exclusively, the post I...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-06-2008, 06:13 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Once chosen, chance is just another compelling...

Once chosen, chance is just another compelling cause like any other. You do not have to know the exact reason for a given cause of your decisions to still be compelled by it. Thus, choosing to flip...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-06-2008, 06:08 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
(bolding mine) God* is the only sentient being...

(bolding mine)

God* is the only sentient being who could have made man imperfect and He chose exactly how much imperfection each of us has and therefore, exactly whether each of us will come to...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-06-2008, 05:54 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Your problem here is that, if you do not sin, if...

Your problem here is that, if you do not sin, if you scrupulously obey all laws and always do God's will, there is no difference between you and the hated robot, no matter how much free will you...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-06-2008, 05:24 AM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Precisely. And, regarding our free will to...

Precisely. And, regarding our free will to commit a sin, the only way to demonstrate that we have this free will and are not just robots (God is supposed to hate robots, so, take that, Sony) is to...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-05-2008, 11:06 AM
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Posted By Sternwallow
We will still have to try to prove that we have...

We will still have to try to prove that we have free will precisely because we don't. :D
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-05-2008, 11:05 AM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Where else? How else? Love is an...

Where else? How else? Love is an electro-chemical phenomenon as is fear, for example.

It is easy to demonstrate major effects of chemicals on the way we think and imagine and behave. We use...
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-02-2008, 12:52 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Strong dittos! :D:thumbsup::D:thumbsup:

Strong dittos! :D:thumbsup::D:thumbsup:
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-02-2008, 12:47 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
Your picture of the Sombrero-muffin galaxy does...

Your picture of the Sombrero-muffin galaxy does not appear to be to scale. :D
Forum: Atheist vs Theist 08-02-2008, 12:46 PM
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Posted By Sternwallow
I do not say what you should believe. Whatever...

I do not say what you should believe. Whatever gets you through the night sweats is fine.

When we discuss a topic, it is more effective to state points in direct terms; "For these reasons free...
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