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Forum: General Discussion 02-28-2012, 01:12 PM
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Posted By Victus
I notice you've started leaving out things like...

I notice you've started leaving out things like kidney and partial liver donations. Does that mean that you've ceded the point on those organ groups?
Forum: General Discussion 02-28-2012, 06:14 AM
Replies: 741
Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
Ok, so you believe that selling your kidney once...

Ok, so you believe that selling your kidney once should be illegal, but fishing for crab for a decade, which has 100x the cumulative risk level, should be legal? If that's your argument, then you've...
Forum: General Discussion 02-28-2012, 03:20 AM
Replies: 741
Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
At best, that's an argument against removing...

At best, that's an argument against removing whole livers, versus partial liver transplants or single-kidney donations. Those, like crab fishing, are (lower) risks, rather than a death...
Forum: General Discussion 02-28-2012, 02:01 AM
Replies: 741
Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
So your objection is based on some science...

So your objection is based on some science fiction you saw on TV? It's good to know how much value you put on human life.
Forum: General Discussion 02-28-2012, 01:59 AM
Replies: 741
Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
If this were really the reason behind your...

If this were really the reason behind your objection, you would want to ban other, (relatively) high-risk for-profit activities, like crab fishing on the Bering Sea - but you don't.



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My,...
Forum: General Discussion 02-27-2012, 05:58 PM
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Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
That just side steps the issue. If your reason...

That just side steps the issue. If your reason for banning organ trading is that it's dangerous, then why doesn't your position vary with the level of risk for each organ group? And if risk is really...
Forum: General Discussion 02-27-2012, 05:19 PM
Replies: 741
Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
Mystery double post.

Mystery double post.
Forum: General Discussion 02-27-2012, 05:19 PM
Replies: 741
Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
Then why doesn't your support for a ban vary...

Then why doesn't your support for a ban vary along with the degree if necessity of each organ? Since kidneys can be extracted at low risk and generate no long-term health risks for the donor, then...
Forum: General Discussion 02-27-2012, 05:35 AM
Replies: 741
Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
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Forum: General Discussion 02-26-2012, 05:42 PM
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Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
It seems like it's exactly like buying a used...

It seems like it's exactly like buying a used car, once you get all the emotions out of the way.
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-26-2012, 03:26 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 15,663
Posted By Victus
My point is that you said you wouldn't buy auto...

My point is that you said you wouldn't buy auto insurance but for a mandate, yet you appear to have insurance beyond what the mandate covers.
Forum: General Discussion 02-26-2012, 03:22 PM
Replies: 741
Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
Why? Caveat emptor would apply there as well.

Why? Caveat emptor would apply there as well.
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-26-2012, 12:58 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 15,663
Posted By Victus
True, but I don't think this is directly related...

True, but I don't think this is directly related to mandates specifically.



Not so far as I am aware. The closest would be...

1) Brick arguing that car insurance prices go down over time for safe...
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-26-2012, 10:24 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 15,663
Posted By Victus
Yep. Sure. Even more accurate would be,...

Yep.



Sure. Even more accurate would be, "Individuals are the purchasers of insurance, and their premiums are based on their individual risk profile, which is made up of a combination of their...
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-26-2012, 09:55 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 15,663
Posted By Victus
Then rejoice, because it's not. As far as I can...

Then rejoice, because it's not. As far as I can tell, the UK only requires you to buy third party insurance, or what we would call liability or personal responsibility insurance. That is, you are...
Forum: General Discussion 02-26-2012, 07:36 AM
Replies: 741
Views: 75,653
Posted By Victus
It depends on the contract, but from the seller's...

It depends on the contract, but from the seller's point of view they've already taken the risk of surgery/donation. That the organ ultimately proved useless isn't their problem. Caveat emptor applies...
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-25-2012, 11:55 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 5,140
Posted By Victus
As a Canadian? No. I'm used to this kind of...

As a Canadian? No. I'm used to this kind of inanity.
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-25-2012, 09:48 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 5,140
Posted By Victus
As usual, the question is crazy compared to what?

As usual, the question is crazy compared to what?
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-25-2012, 09:46 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 15,663
Posted By Victus
Out of curiosity, do you have insurance that...

Out of curiosity, do you have insurance that covers injuries to yourself/damage to your car?



Even with a mandate in place, insurers still face competitive pressure to keep prices low. The mandate...
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-25-2012, 06:05 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 15,663
Posted By Victus
For all drivers, yes; for individual drivers, no....

For all drivers, yes; for individual drivers, no. Individuals buy insurance.

Or, since this seems to be confusing you...

When a driver buys car insurance for $X, he's effectively making the claim...
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-24-2012, 08:46 AM
Replies: 321
Views: 35,999
Posted By Victus
In any of those scenarios, how does empathy get...

In any of those scenarios, how does empathy get me a burger?
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-24-2012, 01:03 AM
Replies: 321
Views: 35,999
Posted By Victus
The difference being that, in addition to...

The difference being that, in addition to correcting the definition based on my expertise, I linked to the main wiki article on it.



Maybe you're too new to remember....
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-23-2012, 08:20 PM
Replies: 321
Views: 35,999
Posted By Victus
Go ahead and look up the distinction between the...

Go ahead and look up the distinction between the fallacious and non-fallacious uses of arguments from authority. I'll wait here.



If I only pretended to do so, I couldn't have cited an example. Yet...
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-23-2012, 08:19 PM
Replies: 321
Views: 35,999
Posted By Victus
No. Other, un-mandated prescription drugs can...

No. Other, un-mandated prescription drugs can prevent my slow, painful death. Next to that, birth control seems pretty trivial.



Since my position is simply not to force people to do things...
Forum: Open Mic and General Chat 02-23-2012, 08:18 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 15,663
Posted By Victus
For the individual (i.e., the purchaser of...

For the individual (i.e., the purchaser of insurance)? Yes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Road_traffic_accidents_world_map_-_Death_-_WHO2004.svg) - car accidents are rare (hence why an insurance...
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