[Rhinoqulous]

It seems like people here believe that until Darwin and Copernicus everyone thought the Earth was flat, it was the center of the universe and we were created by Gods (or at least if they didn't believe these things they remained silent). Heliocentric models were around in India from the 9th century BCE, with the Chinese, Greek and Indian ancient civilizations arriving at fairly accurate (considering the tools available) measurements of the size of the Earth, moon and Sun, and the distances between them. The early Greek and Indian Atomists (Democritus in particular) believed all there was to existence were atoms and void, and the current arrangement of the universe was the result of random collisions. Considering these ideas go back to almost the time of our earliest writings, these ideas aren't new; they've been with us all along.