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Old 02-15-2011, 12:41 PM   #574
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Selly's first cause is, after all, more defined than causelessness. A first cause, by it's very nature, is a cause which precedes all other causes, and is uncaused. That's two elements of definition inherent in a first cause, demonstrating that Selly is full of shit when he insists that his first cause is undefined.

Causelessness, on the other hand, is entirely without definition or description. It is, unlike a first cause, not a thing at all, and therefore cannot be defined.
I think you're missing the point, Anthony.

The first cause is undefined and unknowable...because Jerry says so! It's a brilliant tactic.

Young Earth Creationism is unknowable, therefore can't be discounted. Man, I hope those YECs don't catch on to this logic, it would be devastating to geologists and biologists.

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