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Old 03-19-2018, 03:11 PM   #3883
Simon Moon
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Well you did go along at first...

You were fine with speculating that Humans were more likely than not, NOT the most advanced species in our universe.

Only when I went bigger (multiverse - a common speculation of rationally minded atheists) with the suggestion that there was enormous potential for some really really really impressive life forms out there (an obvious conclusion - the bigger the cosmos, more likely to find more impressive life forms) that you shut down your speculative enquiry - BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T LIKE WHERE THE ENQUIRY WAS LEADING.

Speculative thinking is not irrational, and has value in finding truth in our real world.

If a miner speculates there is Gold in those there hills rational people expend effort and go dig for it. If a medical researcher speculates a certain drug or procedure may offer a cure, grant money gets procured and tests are done to find out.

Its not a sin or backward to speculate.

Yes, speculating is fine, even encouraged.

Speculative thinking itself is not irrational. Where it becomes irrational, is when one decides to believe (accept as true, or likely true) the speculation before it is supported by evidence.

Your problem is, not that you speculate, it is that you make the jump to believing the speculation without evidence and reasoned argument to support it.

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If a miner speculates there is Gold in those there hills rational people expend effort and go dig for it. If a medical researcher speculates a certain drug or procedure may offer a cure, grant money gets procured and tests are done to find out.
Great!

So now you've come up with examples of different speculations, and the methods to find out if they are true.

Again I ask, what method should I use to find out if your speculation about a god is true?
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