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Simon Moon wrote
One of the main reasons I constantly engage theists in these types of conversations, is because I do entertain the possibility that a god exists. One of my main motivations in life is to have as many true beliefs as possible, and eliminate as many false beliefs as possible. If a god exists, I want to know about it.
But what other requirements should I use, than my own?
I have one set of tools I use to evaluate every existential claim. Those being: demonstrable and falsifiable evidence, valid and sound logic, and reasoned argument.
If the claim does not meet those requirements, what should be my justification to believe it is true?
The reason why I use these tools, is because they consistently have proven themselves to be the best path to truth.
Why should I lower the bar and use other tools to evaluate god claims? Just so they are able to clear the lower bar? One thing I am not, is intellectually dishonest.
If I lower the bar enough to allow the claim that gods exist to clear, I would also have to allow all sorts of other unsupported claims to clear, due to the same lack of evidence and reasoned argument.
If it was an obvious fact, I would believe it.
If it was an obvious fact, this debate would not have continued for millennia. There have been atheists for as long as there have been religions.
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It IS an obvious fact that God exists and you SHOULD believe it. The problem is your heart is hardened and brainwashed by the "logical crowd" who themselves disagree on exactly what IS and consists of logic. (Check out "The Logical Song" by Supertramp.)
The problem is that you do not believe that the Bible is the written and Inspired Word of God. Therefore, you cannot discern the truth. You instead rely on fallible humans that you think have it right. Who is to say the scientists that are theists are not right? Just because they are in the minority does not mean they are wrong.
Sometimes logic that is of human nature can fail miserably. Rethink your position on who has the better truth, God or a handful of humans that just happen to believe the same as you do, while you discard the others that are scientists, I might add as wrong. The reason you reject them if you would face the truth is that they disagree with your "logical" point of view.
Thoughts to consider.
JJ