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a different tim wrote
No, Loggy is pretty much right. The dark ages were a time of lowered literacy, lowered population and very poor economic circumstances (not all of which is due to Christianity - there appears to have been an agricultural collapse due to climactic fluctuations as well, for example). The high medieval period and the renaissance got a major intellectual kick off from the capture of the library of Toledo in 1085, during the reconquista, with its large collection of Greek and Islamic scientific and philosophical texts.
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ADT, have you read the above wikipedia link?
There are obviously other sources for detailed info on that period, but none to my knowledge seem to support what you say as a whole... "Lowered literacy, lowered population and very poor economic circumstances" are common even today in many places.
Damn Petrarch!
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a different tim wrote
I'm not entirely surprised about the curent situation of science, but which is cause and which is effect? Does Islam have the hold it does because of lack of exposure to the scientific world view, or vice versa, or are they both caused by another factor? The chronicle article seems to be saying it's down to institutional, economic and political weaknesses rather than Islam.
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You kind of shot your foot with that last phrase, sorry.
We're talking Islamic states here, right?
Well, Islam
is institutional, economical and political...
Since ages.
The thing is, one cannot escape Islam and its influence in any Islamic state, otherwise than physically getting out of there. It's the biggest refugee camp of them all. And proud of it...