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Andrew66 · 08-14-2017, 11:38 AM

Cosmologic Evolution Model Supporting Likelihood of a God's Existence:

Background:

Present theories in cosmology (supported by mathematical predictions) attest there were natural temporal events preceding big bang which have given rise to, or led up to, the big bang. Scientists do not accept God as an explanatory cause for the beginning of our Universe! In all these pre-big bang theories (e.g multiverse, black hole, big bounce) there are no suggested pauses to time (or equivalently pauses in successive changes of state) and no predicted ultimate beginning, hence an infinite regression of temporal events is predicted.

Model:

1) Since our present universe has a configuration of progressive changing states of energy and matter enabling evolution of intelligent life, it may be asserted (by the principle of modesty) that at least some of these pre big bang cosmological states would do the same.

2) Moreover, since an infinite regression of prior physical states are predicted, it can be further asserted that there was an infinite number of evolution enabled pre big bang cosmological states!. Note, this would be true if even a tiny minority of such cosmological states had / have properties enabling evolution, because we are dealing with an infinite regression,

3) It can therefore be asserted (again by the principle of modesty) that given such a vast theorized potential for evolution that intelligent life may in at least some cases have evolved to be superior to humans in terms of grasp of science, power, and ability to do things.

Discussion: If such predicted superior being (or "superhero") had evolved to a relatively low threshold level whereby it became by humans standards as "God" like (e.g. to be able to do at least one of: walk on water, heal the sick by laying hands, bring back from the dead, change water into wine), or to a higher threshold level of perhaps; becoming in-destructable (immortal), enabled for time travel, and / or enabled to travel from universe to universe etc., then a God like being has existed, and may still exist!.

Conclusion

A reasoned mechanistic model, grounded in science, supporting existence of superior intelligent life forms is herein presented.

Potential for a God like being is asserted.

By the way the great defender of Atheism Davin has already conceded to posit (3) above (I believe Davin suggested humans as ranked 47 out of 100 amidst unknown intelligent life forms in the universe) - if you don't believe me I'll cut and paste his quote!!

08-14-2017, 11:38 AM	#1
Andrew66 Obsessed Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,407	Cosmologic Evolution Model Supporting Likelihood of a God's Existence Cosmologic Evolution Model Supporting Likelihood of a God's Existence: Background: Present theories in cosmology (supported by mathematical predictions) attest there were natural temporal events preceding big bang which have given rise to, or led up to, the big bang. Scientists do not accept God as an explanatory cause for the beginning of our Universe! In all these pre-big bang theories (e.g multiverse, black hole, big bounce) there are no suggested pauses to time (or equivalently pauses in successive changes of state) and no predicted ultimate beginning, hence an infinite regression of temporal events is predicted. Model: 1) Since our present universe has a configuration of progressive changing states of energy and matter enabling evolution of intelligent life, it may be asserted (by the principle of modesty) that at least some of these pre big bang cosmological states would do the same. 2) Moreover, since an infinite regression of prior physical states are predicted, it can be further asserted that there was an infinite number of evolution enabled pre big bang cosmological states!. Note, this would be true if even a tiny minority of such cosmological states had / have properties enabling evolution, because we are dealing with an infinite regression, 3) It can therefore be asserted (again by the principle of modesty) that given such a vast theorized potential for evolution that intelligent life may in at least some cases have evolved to be superior to humans in terms of grasp of science, power, and ability to do things. Discussion: If such predicted superior being (or "superhero") had evolved to a relatively low threshold level whereby it became by humans standards as "God" like (e.g. to be able to do at least one of: walk on water, heal the sick by laying hands, bring back from the dead, change water into wine), or to a higher threshold level of perhaps; becoming in-destructable (immortal), enabled for time travel, and / or enabled to travel from universe to universe etc., then a God like being has existed, and may still exist!. Conclusion A reasoned mechanistic model, grounded in science, supporting existence of superior intelligent life forms is herein presented. Potential for a God like being is asserted. By the way the great defender of Atheism Davin has already conceded to posit (3) above (I believe Davin suggested humans as ranked 47 out of 100 amidst unknown intelligent life forms in the universe) - if you don't believe me I'll cut and paste his quote!!