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Old 11-14-2005, 07:49 PM   #1
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GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!!



Prove it.
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:08 PM   #2
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Because you are a dumb shit and therefore if you believe he does then he obviously doesn't
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:09 PM   #3
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Unicorns don't exist, prove that.

"When science was in its infancy, religion tried to strangle it in its cradle." - Robert G. Ingersoll
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:36 PM   #4
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The FSM takes you lack of faith as a hateful statement and will destroy you puny mortal fool!
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:06 PM   #5
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GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!!



Prove it.
Jiminy Cricket, prove that you have never masturbated while thinking about your mother sucking you off.

After you do that I will show you the proof that God does not exist.

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Old 11-14-2005, 10:59 PM   #6
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There is proof that god doesn't exist. It's called common sense. And only those WITH common sense can understand that god can't be real while those without common sense (you) will bow down to the all powerful good guy whom is doing battle against the supernatural bad guy for the ultimate prize of our eternal souls - kind of comic book like, don't you think?
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:14 PM   #7
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It's called common sense.
It seems the definition of this changes like the wind.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:26 PM   #8
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There is proof that god doesn't exist. It's called common sense. And only those WITH common sense can understand that god can't be real while those without common sense (you) will bow down to the all powerful good guy whom is doing battle against the supernatural bad guy for the ultimate prize of our eternal souls - kind of comic book like, don't you think?
This not proof at all. It’s not even related to proof. :lol: :lol:
Try again. :lol: :lol:
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:06 AM   #9
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There is proof that god doesn't exist. It's called common sense. And only those WITH common sense can understand that god can't be real while those without common sense (you) will bow down to the all powerful good guy whom is doing battle against the supernatural bad guy for the ultimate prize of our eternal souls - kind of comic book like, don't you think?
This not proof at all. It’s not even related to proof. :lol: :lol:
Try again. :lol: :lol:
Yesus... by god...

A:. Can you be more of a dick, just wanna see if you reached the limit yet.

B:. Tell him how it's 'not proof at all' not just you little :lol: shite.
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Old 11-15-2005, 01:08 AM   #10
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GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!!



Prove it.
Okay, it's nice you admit it. :D (if you need to interpret, this is a 'joke')

Okay. God cannot logically exist. Therefore, it is up to you to prove he exists. Similarly, a square circle cannot logically exist. Therefore, it is up to whoever is claiming there is a square circle to prove it exists.

I am not 'shifting the burden of proof'. I am not going to go out and search the entire universe for the lack of a square circle. Whoever is claiming that there is a square circle must find it. Whoever is claiming there is a God must find him (why is God male? Sexism?).
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Old 11-15-2005, 01:10 AM   #11
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GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!!



Prove it.
Jiminy Cricket, prove that you have never masturbated while thinking about your mother sucking you off.

After you do that I will show you the proof that God does not exist.
I knew you would fail the challenge doofus

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Old 11-15-2005, 04:09 AM   #12
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There is proof that god doesn't exist. It's called common sense. And only those WITH common sense can understand that god can't be real while those without common sense (you) will bow down to the all powerful good guy whom is doing battle against the supernatural bad guy for the ultimate prize of our eternal souls - kind of comic book like, don't you think?
This not proof at all. It’s not even related to proof. :lol: :lol:
Try again. :lol: :lol:
You dare to invade this thread talking about proof when you failed so miserably to supply even weak evidence to back up your claims on that other thread? Incredible. Don't bother to S, just GOTP.

Tenspace, I nominate Yesusfriend as another candidate for inclusion on this list of goofballs who insult Jesus with their infantile stupidity.

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Old 11-15-2005, 07:07 AM   #13
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Let's start at the beginning. The Bible says God created the earth. You'll probably say, "Evolution created the earth." I don't deny the possibility of evolution: that is, for example, that animal life precedes human life. We didn't all get here on the same day. (I'm not saying that man came from monkeys. You didn't did you?)
Incidentally, the Bible follows the scientific pattern from vegetation to sea life to animals to man. I should probably say evolution follows the biblical patter. If the Bible had put man here before animals, you'd really have a case. It doesn't make that mistake.
Creation may have taken millions of years. The Bible doesn't say "when." But how did it get started? Where did life come from? That's the real question. The Bible just puts it simply: Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created......" God had a hand in creation all along, particularly in the creation of man. He brought something altogethere new with man. The Hebrew word says it's a "creative act." That is used to describe the creation of the earth.
I read something interesting a couple days ago. Did you know that Darwin with his precise scientific mind said, "If we consider the whole universe the mind refuses to look upon it as the outcome of chance." The opposite of chance is order, mind, and intelligence. Christians call that "God."
So you say i can't prove him. You're right. I can't prove Him. I could use some arguments such as:

1. you can't see the wind, but it's there
2. Where did right and wrong come from? I have been saying this in other posts, but it doesn't seem to work very well to prove God.
3. My father told me yesterday about an old "Aristotelian logic" he called it. I used this earlier: cause, mind, intelligence. the argument you get from this is that "matter cannot create itself."
4. Last of all is religious experience. How can you be sure that all those who claim to have experienced God were all mistaken? Let's say you were the only one who's seen the stars at night. Maybe that could have been a dillusion. What if thousands of other people saw it also?
I could go on and on, but i admit that i can't prove God to you. If i could that means someone had done it before me, and no one would be an atheist ever again! When Galileo said that the world was round, nobody argued against him. Only a fool would think it's flat.
If God can be proven to exist, he becomes a product of my reasoning. God becomes a scientic discovery which man demonstrates. In this way, man has made the limitled limitless. He has also made it the eternal work of his own mind. Another intersting quote i read recently is one by a man named Tennyson. He wrote that "nothing worthy proving can be proven, or yet disproven."
Again you might say, "You Christians say that God has made man in His image. I say, man has made God in his image. it is all the product of your mind. You've created you're own God!"
Do you know why you're allowed to come up with that? It's vecause you have been given the freedom to believe or not believe in God. I sa I can't prove God to you. Let me ask you: Can you disprove him? Can you demonstrate conclusively that God does not exist?
You might be in an awkward spot right now. A person who believes in God points to God as the creator of all things. You say, "WHAT!" you don't know. who knows? who cares? I don't think that sounds logical or intelligent.
Let's say that i eat and drink anything not giving any thought to where my food comes from, what it is, or how it's made. "It's not important," is say. All i need is to eat. I buy at the store, i know it's good for me (do i really?), but never bother to think of how it got there, where it came from or who is responsible for it. I think you should be getting my point by now.
now we're stuck. If God can't be proved or disproved by logic and reason, then he must be thought of in other ways. I would use faith. Doesn't sound very philosophical does it? Faith moves beyond reason. it overreaches the boundaries of logic.
Let me tell you a story.
There was a white man who drew a small circle in the sand and humbled the red man: "this is what the Indian knows," he said. then he dre a bigger circle around that one and said, "this is what the white man knows." The indian then grabbed a stick and drew a massive circle around both of the smaller ones and said, "This is what the white man and red man both don't know."
If we knew everything we wouldn't be searching for anything. Am i right?
Faith is an inner confidence. It is beyond the realm of human knowledge. It's invisible so to speak. It's not rational and it's not going to be, but it pushes for the experimental, the "real." This isn't just for now or the future; it is also for the past. It's only by faith taht our minds accept God as the creator of all things. The world which we see has come into being through principles which are invisible. So if you want to find God, faith is essential.
You might say, "what if i don't have faith? How can i believe in God without faith?" Well, how do you learn about love? Not by having someone analize it for you or hearing about it in a song. Only by experience can you know what it is. Faith doesn't just come to you. It's not something some people have and others don't. When you begin you could believe that faith is that way. But you have to be willing. That's all i'll really ask of you. You can't "make yourself have faith." You can be open though. You can be open to experience, to love, and to God.
Forgive me for all the quotes, but i've been randomly looking through books and looking for quotes to use. Leo Tolstoy said: "There is no God. Nothing. No miracles can prove him. Nothing is as real as my own life." Then he asked himself. "But my conception of God, where did it come from? I should long ago have killed myself if I did not hope to find him! Slowly but surely and dawned by the conviction and reality of faith I began to believe."
I don't think you'll believe quickly. But i urge you to try through faith.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:34 AM   #14
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God is claimed to be omniscient and omnipotent. These two qualities are mutually exclusive. Therefore, God does not exist. Next question?

Johnny -- faith is a notoriously poor way of understanding the truth of anything. Until you can show that faith is a reliable way of reaching an understanding of truth, you are getting nowhere. Hoping and wishing does not make it so.

Furthermore, the God of the Bible is rather easily disproved. Your Bible, as we are to understand it, is a guide to understanding our place in the universe. It is supposedly the result of mankind writing down various revelations from your God. Then how is it that God failed to explain evolution, one of the most fundamental issues for understanding what we are? That failure is to me plain evidence that the Bible is man-made stuff, utterly unreliable on its supposed fundamental purpose. As a consequence, your God simply doesn't exist. No wonder the most virulent opponents of teaching evolution are Christians.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:38 AM   #15
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Oh yeah, one more thing. Stop assuming that atheists haven't tried faith before. I don't know how many times this has to be said. Many atheists are former believers; they have rejected belief because it is unreliable.
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