Free Will

Hello,

I have been thinking...if the universe is just blind forces that interact with each other, where does free will and consciousness come in to play?

[Victus]

DOMi wrote

Hello,

I have been thinking...if the universe is just blind forces that interact with each other, where does free will and consciousness come in to play?

Maybe they don't.

[Eva]

we have a thread called Introduce Yourself. know it, use it, become a friend of it, eh?

I already did some time ago, been travelling to different ideas on the net and such.

Victus wrote

Maybe they don't.

But it does, what descisions you make effect matter(lifting up a cup to pissing in a bush and changing the consitancy of moisture in the dirt on the ground).

[calpurnpiso]

DOMi wrote

Hello,

I have been thinking...if the universe is just blind forces that interact with each other, where does free will and consciousness come in to play?

Welcome to the forum. Free will & Consciousness originate in the Universes Within. The universes Within we create our Minds with, the BRAIN.

Tinkering with the brain can distorts its thinking. Our brains have deviced a way to understand the Universe. The very large, with Relativity & very small with quantum mechanics. Perhaps the theory of everything rest in understanding the 11 dimensions than make up the infinitesimal bubbles of the pulsating strings responsible for consciousness.

[ubs]

DOMi wrote

But it does, what descisions you make effect matter(lifting up a cup to pissing in a bush and changing the consitancy of moisture in the dirt on the ground).

And that matter affects your "decision." You only think you have a choice.

Unless you embrace the idea of a supernatural there is no source for your free will. Is the supernatural what you are suggesting?

Yes to calpurnpiso.but no matter how much you mess with the brain you will always have something inside that makes a descision, either choosing on or off.

[Victus]

DOMi wrote

But it does, what descisions you make effect matter(lifting up a cup to pissing in a bush and changing the consitancy of moisture in the dirt on the ground).

Maybe what you call decisions are just more blind physical forces interacting, physics in motion as it were.

calpurnpiso wrote

Welcome to the forum. Free will & Consciousness originate in the Universes Within. The universes Within we create our Minds with, the BRAIN.

Tinkering with the brain can distorts its thinking. Our brains have deviced a way to understand the Universe. The very large, with Relativity & very small with quantum mechanics. Perhaps the theory of everything rest in understanding the 11 dimensions than make up the infinitesimal bubbles of the pulsating strings responsible for consciousness.

Victus wrote

Maybe what you call decisions are just more blind physical forces interacting, physics in motion as it were.

So if you decide to make a decision, the out come of deciding to make that descion is the descision itself? uhh..does that make sense or am i just crazy lol

[ubs]

A question for theists would be "Do chimps have free will."

As they are said not to have an immortal soul, I would expect the answer to be no, and yet they appear to make decisions just as we do....

That whole other-life-isn't-special-like-us thing is very problematic.

ubs wrote

A question for theists would be "Do chimps have free will."

As they are said not to have an immortal soul, I would expect the answer to be no, and yet they appear to make decisions just as we do....

That whole other-life-isn't-special-like-us thing is very problematic.

I AM NOT A THEIST...HOW DARE YOU!

[ubs]

My deepest apologies.

So where do you think free will comes from then? Your thoughts are a chemical reaction, so what prompts them?

ubs wrote

My deepest apologies.

So where do you think free will comes from then? Your thoughts are a chemical reaction, so what prompts them?

Well, since I TRY and base all my beliefs on reason, my reason states that we simply do not have enough information yet to fully explain how free will works and its interactions with the Universe.

ubs wrote

A question for theists would be "Do chimps have free will."

As they are said not to have an immortal soul, I would expect the answer to be no, and yet they appear to make decisions just as we do....

That whole other-life-isn't-special-like-us thing is very problematic.

I would think that chimps have free will. Give it two bannanas of the same size and freshness. The chimp will have to choose one.