Existing creator is more logical

[Hobotronic2037]

ahoba wrote

So why did you reply and for what??? just talking anything?!!!!!!



Easy!!!
by your definition is creator is theoretically possible or not?!!!!! easy!!!

A creator by my definition is of course theoretically possible. You are a creator. You eat food and create poop. So what?

You should be so very proud of your creation.

You should gaze upon it and say "it is good!"

[ahoba]

What about the building, robot, computer, software, medicine, and so on
can the person be a creator of them?

[Hobotronic2037]

ahoba wrote

What about the building, robot, computer, software, medicine, and so on
can the person be a creator of them?

Why don't you apply the definition and figure it out for yourself.

Why do you need me to tell you if a person can make these things or not?

[carusmm]

Logic just flew out the window with this one.

[Sinfidel]

ahoba wrote

Creator: a person or thing that brings something into existence.

I said "Existing creator is also possible theoretically and more logical!"

Trying the ole logical fallacy trick, eh! We're too sofistikated here to fall for that. Try it in Sunday skool.

[Alexa]

It's not more logical at all. I mean even if you open up 'creator' to all possibilities. I mean if the universe needed a creator, then that creator needs a creator. And the creator of the creator would need a creator ad infinitum.

For example Magic universe creating pixies. If they existed, who made them? Magic magic universe creating pixies creating pixies? Then who made them? Magic magic magic universe creating pixies creating pixies creating pixies?

[Sinfidel]

Alexa wrote

It's not more logical at all. I mean even if you open up 'creator' to all possibilities. I mean if the universe needed a creator, then that creator needs a creator. And the creator of the creator would need a creator ad infinitum.

For example Magic universe creating pixies. If they existed, who made them? Magic magic universe creating pixies creating pixies? Then who made them? Magic magic magic universe creating pixies creating pixies creating pixies?

Pixies all the way down instead of turtles?

Pre-Einstein, when some audacious soul amongst the mouth breathers in the congregation had the temerity to ask where God came from, the response was, "Oh, He existed FOREVER".
Post Einstein, that became, "God exists OUTSIDE OF TIME AND SPACE."

Problem: God creating the Universe is an activity. An activity requires a time and location. Therefore, said activity would not be possible outside of time and space. Time to invoke good ole MAGIK again!

My elderly Mom stayed with me for a time due to a severe ice storm which left no heat or hydro in her home. One day, the topic of religion came up. "What - you don't believe in God" she exclaimed. "Then where did everything come from?"
I replied, "Where did God come from?"
Silence for a while, and then this strange look came over her face, as if a dim light was getting brighter. The topic never came up again.

[ghoulslime]

Hobotronic2037 wrote

...You are a creator. You eat food and create poop. So what?

You should be so very proud of your creation.

On the seventh day, he rested from his movement, and saw that it was good.

Holy crap! What if ahoba IS God, and nobody is paying attention? He needs to raise a bigger stink.

Glory unto Him!