07-09-2012, 09:13 PM
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Please present good reasons for philosophical naturalism
philosophical naturalism helds, that the natural world is all there exists. Please present good reasons for this world view, and why you think it provides the best explanation for our existence. I am asking for positive arguments, not arguments like : the universe is all there is, because the bible is not compelling , because there is no evidence for God etc. I am asking for arguments, that make philosophical naturalism stand by its own.
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07-09-2012, 11:14 PM
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Intellectually honest people don’t try to prove that which cannot be proven. You want us to prove that something undefined doesn’t exist?
Ask me to prove that you are a partially-aborted asshole baby that barely escaped a flush down the toilet.
The Leprechauns do not forbid the drawing of Their images, as long as we color within the lines. ~ Ghoulslime H Christ, Prophet, Seer, Revelator, and Masturbator
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07-09-2012, 11:49 PM
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Godlovesyou wrote
Please present ....
I am asking .... I am asking ....
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Over two years ago, Davin wrote
You're an idiot
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Then you fucked off.
I wonder how long before you fuck off again.
Stop the Holy See men!
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07-10-2012, 02:43 AM
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Good reasons? Because I can see nature and the natural world. Next.
A theist is just an atheist with a space in it.
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07-10-2012, 05:06 AM
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ghoulslime wrote
Intellectually honest people don’t try to prove that which cannot be proven.
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I have not asked for proves, but for evidence.
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You want us to prove that something undefined doesn’t exist?
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No. Read my post again, and you will understand that God is not into the game.
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07-10-2012, 05:07 AM
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ILOVEJESUS wrote
Good reasons? Because I can see nature and the natural world. Next.
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According to your logic, whatever you can see, has no cause ??
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07-10-2012, 07:28 AM
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The natural world is the only 'world' that has an observable and repeatedly demonstrable effect on my being.
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07-10-2012, 07:34 AM
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Godlovesyou wrote
I have not asked for proves, but for evidence.
No. Read my post again, and you will understand that God is not into the game.
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Oh, proves! Not Evidence! Semantics for idiots, eh? Is this a new board game in your mental ward?
Yes, I read your post again. You are still an imbecile. Now read my post again. I said nothing of any imaginary gods. You asked for someone to demonstrate that the “natural world” is all that exists. As opposed to what, dimwit? Your premise seems to be, if I am translating your fluent idiocy correctly, that some undefined thing besides physical reality exists. Physical reality exists. Look around you! There it is! Alright, I’ve demonstrated the existence of physical reality. Is anything else required for the existence of physical reality? Did you have a positive assertion that you wanted to make? Surely, even a slobbering dolt like you does not expect anyone here to try to prove a negative.
The Leprechauns do not forbid the drawing of Their images, as long as we color within the lines. ~ Ghoulslime H Christ, Prophet, Seer, Revelator, and Masturbator
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07-10-2012, 07:35 AM
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Godlovesyou wrote
According to your logic, whatever you can see, has no cause ??
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Where does his logic imply this?
Experienced any brain damage recently?
The Leprechauns do not forbid the drawing of Their images, as long as we color within the lines. ~ Ghoulslime H Christ, Prophet, Seer, Revelator, and Masturbator
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07-10-2012, 07:42 AM
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ghoulslime wrote
Experienced any brain damage recently?
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I don't think the brain damage was recent.
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.
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07-10-2012, 08:53 AM
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Quote:
West491 wrote
The natural world is the only 'world' that has an observable and repeatedly demonstrable effect on my being.
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And what caused the natural world into being ?
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07-10-2012, 08:56 AM
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ghoulslime wrote
You are still an imbecile.
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Since you are demonstrating not enough intelligence and education to adress the issues, but think insulting the counterpart is necessary, you need to find people of your level to behave as kids in the playyard.
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07-10-2012, 10:53 AM
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proves?
i think he meant probes.
as in the anal kind.
i'm baaaack! fixed my old puter!
One of the most irrational of all the conventions of modern society is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected....That they should have this immunity is an outrage. There is nothing in religious ideas, as a class, to lift them above other ideas. On the contrary, they are always dubious and often quite silly.
H. L. Mencken
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07-10-2012, 11:00 AM
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It looks like i have ended at a kids with poor education playground. thats definitively not the place i want to waste my precious time.
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07-10-2012, 11:01 AM
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Excellent - I assume you'll be fucking off immediately?
Stop the Holy See men!
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