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Old 10-21-2011, 11:49 AM   #1
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Obama announces total Iraq troop withdrawal

This is good news.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/obama-announce...165635034.html
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:00 PM   #2
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:12 PM   #3
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This actually isn't that big of a deal. All this is is Obama is not extending the troop pull-out date that was put in place way back in 2007 or something. The pact signed with the Iraqi's set the total pull-out date as December 31st, 2011, with the condition that we could extend troop deployment if we saw fit. Obama is not extending, so they are leaving Iraq by the deadline put in the agreement (that Bush signed).

Still, will be good PR for Obama, which he needs.

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Old 10-21-2011, 12:56 PM   #4
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Still, will be good PR for Obama, which he needs.
I don't think so. Those who loathe Obama will continue doing so, no matter what he does.

The only thing that might quiet his relentlessly vocal critics some is if the unemployment rate drops to Clinton era levels, but that ain't likely to happen. Otherwise, all Obama's really got going for him now (apart from his perpetually sunny disposition in the face of withering rebukes) is a comparatively weak field of Republican candidates vying to succeed him.

But, you're right that this deal was sealed under President George W. Bush. However, that doesn't mean Obama couldn't have fucked it up and given his critics even more ammunition. So good on Obama that he hasn't.

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Old 10-21-2011, 01:20 PM   #5
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The only thing that might quiet his relentlessly vocal critics some is if the unemployment rate drops to Clinton era levels, but that ain't likely to happen.
Especially when you consider that the tea-baggers are actually telling business owners to stop hiring people.

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Resolved that: The current administration and Democrat majority in the Senate, in conjunction with Progressive socialists from all around the country, especially those from Hollywood and the left leaning news media (Indeed, most of the news media.) have worked in unison to advance an anti-business, an anti-free market, and an anti-capitalist (anti-individual rights and property ownership) agenda. [...]

I, an American small business owner, part of the class that produces the vast majority of real, wealth producing jobs in this country, hereby resolve that I will not hire a single person until this war against business and my country is stopped.

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Old 10-21-2011, 01:32 PM   #6
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Lindsey Graham is a foul douchebag, but there is a kind of honesty here. Fuckleberry was against intervention in the first place, now claims it took too long, now wants us to move in, build oil derricks and start drilling. (And he's against all infrastructure spending in his own country, natch.) What an unctuous ass.

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Old 10-21-2011, 01:46 PM   #7
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sooo, libertarians want to make libya into what they hoped somalia would be...

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Old 10-21-2011, 01:49 PM   #8
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I thought the three furies wanted us to stop talking economics.

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Old 10-21-2011, 01:49 PM   #9
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If at first you don't succeed and all that.

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Old 10-21-2011, 03:28 PM   #10
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Lot of oil to be produced.
Best way for him to produce oil is lie down & die.

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That kills!

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Old 10-21-2011, 04:26 PM   #14
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See these dogpet? Pressure sensors. Only 13 fish/sensor. Strap them to your ass and they'll tell you when you're sitting down. What do you say? You'll take eight then?

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If there are no more religionists, maybe best just shut this section of the board?

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