Old 01-17-2011, 04:45 PM   #46
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:06 PM   #47
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Right. This has gotten to be too silly!
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:30 PM   #48
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Winning genes commonly act as team-players.
Their winning plays are
salvations of an aliveness of which they are a part.
A fraction of genes are parasitic (they
parasitize teams).

Cool! Where did you get this?

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Old 01-24-2011, 11:08 AM   #49
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Not sure if this fits in with "good science", but...

fucking magnets!

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...In other words, if you need an army of minions willing to kill for you, you're going to need a whole lot of magnets.

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Old 01-24-2011, 12:35 PM   #50
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Not sure if this fits in with "good science", but...

fucking magnets!
Kind of like zombies????? Wow 28 days later really was a premoniotion.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:41 PM   #51
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Woohoo! Now I can have all the bad girls I want!

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Old 01-24-2011, 03:19 PM   #52
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Aliveness Teams

Winning genes commonly act as team-players.
Their winning plays are salvations of an aliveness of which they are a part.
A fraction of genes are parasitic (they parasitize teams).

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Cool! Where did you get this?
Thank you!
I am glad you like it! That’s me talking!
Still, the space-constraints of the “signature box” did make me be a tad simplistic.
If I had more space, I’d say >>

Vital genes act as a team,
which sustains the aliveness of which they
are a part.

Beneficial genes act as part of that team,
helping the alivenesses of which they
are a part.

All these genes are teamish!

They are team-players, and their winning-plays are salvations and/or promotions of the alivenesses of which they are a part.

Detrimental genes act against such a team of aliveness-sustaining genes, and damage (or damage the chances of) the aliveness which is sustaining them. They may damage it so much that the aliveness dies, and they too are lost!

Neutral genes neither help nor harm.

Parasitic genes, such as jumping-genes, parasitize an organism’s team of genes.

Viral genes are themselves members of a team – the viral genome.

Even kin-killing genetic elements (which some call “selfish genes” ‡), that target and kill siblings which lack that genetic element, are teamish in the sense that they aid the teams of genes which contain copies of them.



The reason
beneficial genes are teamish, is that one gene can accomplish very little on its own.

Aliveness is a team effort!

An organism's genes survive via aliveness
(or “viability” in the case of viruses, and seeds, etc).


Dawkins says that we are “gene-survival machines”.
But this is a myopic, blinkered view of aliveness.
The truth is :
aliveness acts as an aliveness-sustaining “machine”



Aliveness is a multi-reactant physico-chemical chain-reaction
which (with a dash of luck!) sustains itself!



A human child holds neither all the genes of its mother, nor all the genes of its father.
So much for gene survival!
But it *is* a continuation and salvation of both their alivenesses.


Biology, is (surprisingly for some!) about ...
LIFE ! :-)



‡ I am well aware that many apply this phrase more widely that that.

Healthy genes act as team-players. They are teamish!
Their winning plays are
salvations of an aliveness of which they are a part.
Only a fraction of genes are selfish/parasitic (and they
parasitize teams).

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Old 01-30-2011, 04:16 PM   #53
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Pantheist, I am going to take this to my intro genetics class professor, if you don't mind, thanks!

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Old 02-03-2011, 08:55 AM   #54
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Capitalization is never enough!

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Pantheist, I am going to take this to my intro genetics class professor, if you don't mind, thanks!
I don't mind at all. It's a public forum after all!
Just watch your A's and B's, hey?
PanAtheist.

Healthy genes act as team-players. They are teamish!
Their winning plays are
salvations of an aliveness of which they are a part.
Only a fraction of genes are selfish/parasitic (and they
parasitize teams).
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:31 AM   #55
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He's not gonna take it any more!

also a bit of Pharyngula

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remind you of anybody?

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Old 02-15-2011, 07:33 AM   #56
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I've been fucking modded again!!! - it was just a post about research !!

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Old 02-17-2011, 12:11 PM   #57
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Another one of those 'tunnel vision' scientists who is an expert in their field talks about how good it is to be an expert in a field

In defense of elites

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Old 02-17-2011, 12:12 PM   #58
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It happened again I'll wait for it to be unlocked

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Old 02-17-2011, 12:25 PM   #59
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Yeah, I've had that happen for some of my heroically-long posts, at which point I regret not having saved them somewhere before trying to post.

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lol- at least mine aren't long

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