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Old 03-21-2015, 05:17 PM   #31
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Since youíre now debating the topic instead of making personal attacks, I make these responses:
For you 1st comment, weíre in agreement!
Then it was pointless rhetoric to begin with.

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On your 2nd point, the concept of things outside of space & time isnít mine Ė itís that of many physicists. Itís fundamental to string theory, and any theory which proposes more than 4 dimensions. Itís also a conclusion of the following experiment:
http://phys.org/news/2012-01-quantum...nlocality.html
I have an hypothesis that our space-time is just one of many bubbles in a leprechaun's ale. Let me know when your hypothesis is a theory. I will let you know when mine is.

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On your 3rd point: If math & logic are merely human constructs, then before humans existed, the physical world didnít follow them? The universe has been bound by math & logic, which physics is based on, for a very long time Ė ask any astronomer. The fact that it has been following those rules before our existence means they are not a human construct. Those rules have been around for what Iíd say is an eternity.
There was no math or logic before humans invented these. Math and logic are metrics, invented by humans, to measure and understand the universe around them. If gravity made things fly apart or apples fly off the branch of a tree into the sky, then perhaps other lifeforms very different from our own would have a very different universe and different logical concepts and mathematical equations to explain it. Maybe you can find them in Uranus.

It is inspiring to meet somebody who has such a profound grasp of eternity. Perhaps you can also tell us what proceeded the Big Bang. Let me take a guess: your imaginary invisible friend who existed forever outside of space-time was planning his favorite meat puppets on a drawing board in his living room.

We have heard your God of the Goatse fallacy WAY too many times already.

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Old 03-21-2015, 05:22 PM   #32
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What's going on Kate and Smelly have reversed roles. A parallel universe?

Thanks for those nudges Kate. Wink, wink.
Sweet diaper gravy of the Christ child! They have disrupted teh space-time continuum.

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Old 03-21-2015, 05:37 PM   #33
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Cake is delicious. Cake is God. Take this, all of you, and eat it.

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Old 03-21-2015, 06:41 PM   #34
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Logic Proof of God

1) God is good.
2) Cakes are good, too.
3) There are Goatse cakes. Therefore, Goatse is God.

Blessings from Uranus!

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Old 03-22-2015, 01:39 PM   #35
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Then it was pointless rhetoric to begin with.



I have an hypothesis that our space-time is just one of many bubbles in a leprechaun's ale. Let me know when your hypothesis is a theory. I will let you know when mine is.



There was no math or logic before humans invented these. Math and logic are metrics, invented by humans, to measure and understand the universe around them. If gravity made things fly apart or apples fly off the branch of a tree into the sky, then perhaps other lifeforms very different from our own would have a very different universe and different logical concepts and mathematical equations to explain it. Maybe you can find them in Uranus.

It is inspiring to meet somebody who has such a profound grasp of eternity. Perhaps you can also tell us what proceeded the Big Bang. Let me take a guess: your imaginary invisible friend who existed forever outside of space-time was planning his favorite meat puppets on a drawing board in his living room.

We have heard your God of the Goatse fallacy WAY too many times already.
Your rebuttal is that you believe alternate universe(s) exist where the laws of physics are the opposite of this one: Bizarro World?

You believe in something that cannot be proven, has no scientific experiment to support its existence - not what I'd expect from an atheist.
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Old 03-22-2015, 01:46 PM   #36
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Well, that didn't take much. ;o)
It's taken quite a bit actually - still haven't seen a sufficient rebuttal of the premises. Someone attempted to use their belief in Bizarro World as a rebuttal.
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Old 03-22-2015, 01:48 PM   #37
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BAM! Therefore, no god(s).
Activity can happen outside of time and location. There have been experiments on quantum entangled electrons which demonstrate ďactivityĒ outside of space & time. The link below highlights the surprising and fascinating results:
http://news.sciencemag.org/2013/05/p...xist-same-time
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Old 03-22-2015, 01:59 PM   #38
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If you are making the point that "logic is thought" then point two is redundant and you should be able to assert that "thought exists everywhere in the universe" which is patently wrong.
You could say the results of thought, or the remnant of it, instead of ongoing present thought that you presented as a conclusion. That leans more toward an intelligent design argument.
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Old 03-22-2015, 04:09 PM   #39
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Your rebuttal is that you believe alternate universe(s) exist where the laws of physics are the opposite of this one: Bizarro World?

You believe in something that cannot be proven, has no scientific experiment to support its existence - not what I'd expect from an atheist.
Oh Lordy, the straw man & idiot force is big in this one , I look forward to an inbound leprechaun anal fusion missile - outside of spacetime of course.

Stop the Holy See men!
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Old 03-22-2015, 04:54 PM   #40
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Your rebuttal is that you believe alternate universe(s) exist where the laws of physics are the opposite of this one: Bizarro World?

You believe in something that cannot be proven, has no scientific experiment to support its existence - not what I'd expect from an atheist.
Quick! somebody get kselfri some more straw for her scarecrow!

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Old 03-22-2015, 04:57 PM   #41
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It's taken quite a bit actually - still haven't seen a sufficient rebuttal of the premises. Someone attempted to use their belief in Bizarro World as a rebuttal.

It would appear that our latest theist toy is not intellectually honest. Goshers! We never saw that coming!

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Old 03-22-2015, 05:02 PM   #42
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You could say the results of thought, or the remnant of it, instead of ongoing present thought that you presented as a conclusion. That leans more toward an intelligent design argument.

Kselfri has made such a powerful case that I am ready to believe! Howla howla loola! Jesus stick your flesh in my mouth! I am ready to swallow thy fluid, oh lord!

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Old 03-23-2015, 02:37 AM   #43
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Kselfri, I'm finding it hard to understand your concept, Can we have an analogy?

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Old 03-23-2015, 03:18 AM   #44
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Kselfri, I'm finding it hard to understand your concept, Can we have an analogy?
A deep and penetrating analogy that will not lead to disappointment in the end!

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A deep and penetrating analogy that will not lead to disappointment in the end!
Something to get our teeth stuck into.

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