08-20-2017, 02:34 AM
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At least the "Does God Exist" discussion on this thread involves science.
Please understand that no Theist would like, or accept my evolution model for God - Why, because Biblical and Quaranic God's simply exist in perfect all knowing form without prior development or explanation. Theists would take great offence at an idea that God evolved from nature.
The only question to me is how strong and capable can a being get given infinite capacity for evolution a priori?
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Using computer simulation, scientists have revealed the God that evolution would likely produce -

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08-20-2017, 12:05 PM
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Using computer simulation, scientists have revealed the God that evolution would likely produce -

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COOL
The evolution model for God does not predict "morality" - or whether a God is good or evil. Whatever gives it the most competitive advantage for survival is all that matters. Does a Good power have a better chance for survival vs. an evil power - that is a question.
This reminds me of an old Star Trek episode where there was a good Kirk and Spock and in an alternate reality a bad Kirk, and Spock. The Good Kirk gave a very moving speech to the bad Spock, explaining how the Federation would do better in the long run if good.
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08-20-2017, 01:38 PM
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Who could doubt?  
Bigfoot exists!

Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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08-21-2017, 03:12 AM
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Singularity bullshit: Pre Big Bang theorists generally don't believe in singularities - that they "actually" exist. Singularities are just resultant extrapolations taken from cosmologic modelling equations - but most physicists don't really believe in their existence. Anyway - pre big bang theorists hypothesize that their is stuff and space beyond our universe which gave rise to the quantum world of our earliest universe. Please don't say that space and time began at the big bang - I"ve already covered that - its all about semantics.
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Turbulence from the flapping of Angel wings became a space vortex which caused the Big Bang.

Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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08-21-2017, 03:20 AM
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Rare image of the evolved God.....

Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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08-21-2017, 04:35 AM
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At least the "Does God Exist" discussion on this thread involves science.
By the way - I should point on that the God like being I'm proposing is in a way the Atheist's God. You guys should promote rather than refute!!
Please understand that no Theist would like, or accept my evolution model for God - Why, because Biblical and Quaranic God's simply exist in perfect all knowing form without prior development or explanation. Theists would take great offence at an idea that God evolved from nature.
The only question to me is how strong and capable can a being get given infinite capacity for evolution a priori?
Its not hard to belief, given the principle of modesty their should be some evolved beings better than us meager humans- and just get one with grasp of science to walk on water and wella - there's Jesus!
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08-21-2017, 08:40 AM
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But does an evolved entity within our immeasurably old and vast expanse of our multiverse with what we would think of as "God like" capabilities exist?
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08-21-2017, 01:54 PM
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But does an evolved entity within our immeasurably old and vast expanse of our multiverse with what we would think of as "God like" capabilities exist?
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Not until you provide evidence.
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our immeasurably old and vast expanse of our multiverse
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Age has been measured and is NOT "immeasurably old" unless you have evidence otherwise?
Only ONE universe observed so far, unless you have evidence otherwise.

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08-21-2017, 05:57 PM
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Only ONE universe observed so far, unless you have evidence otherwise.
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You haven't been reading the papers Sinny! Just this year scientists have found a zone on our universe which they are reasonably certain got bumped from another universe outside our own.
All the Cosmologist's all over the world are buzzing about it!
They say it is strong supporting evidence, to go along with mathematical modeling evidence in support of the multiverse.
Hmmm multiverse - infinite universes - maybe at least one intelligent being who may be a bit smarter than us exists in at least one of them you think??
And even if you continue to argue this is all conjecture, the Theists have you both ways.
If only one universe, and we are (against all odds) here - that makes us pretty special - points to a creator.
If infinite universes - at least one God like being is bound to exist somewhere.
HA HA There is a God!
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08-22-2017, 03:20 AM
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I'm sure you're pretty "special" Andy Pandy.
Do you do anal?
Once you are dead, you are nothing. Graffito, Pompeii
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08-22-2017, 03:54 AM
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HA HA There is a God!
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God asked me to pass this gift on to you.......

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08-22-2017, 01:38 PM
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Andrew66 wrote:
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Please don't say that space and time began at the big bang - I"ve already covered that - its all about semantics.
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Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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08-22-2017, 02:52 PM
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Damn you Snopes!!
Stop the Holy See men!
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08-22-2017, 09:16 PM
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Please understand that no Theist would like, or accept my evolution model for God
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08-22-2017, 10:30 PM
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Most of us regular raving atheists know that gods are a product of human imaginations butt boy!, isn't Andy doing a great job proving it?
That's not a typo by the way.
Once you are dead, you are nothing. Graffito, Pompeii
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