Kick the Bastards Out.

[Smellyoldgit]

Looks like the right-wing toffs have pulled the plug (for the time being) on the frocked fuckers getting the boot.

91 Conservative MPs opposed plans for a mainly elected House of Lords.

I predict (not very confidently) the toffs will get the parliamentary boot first.

[psychodiva]

fucking bastards

[Eva]

toffs?

[psychodiva]

posh bastards who generally inherit their wealth and do little else apart from grab stuff from other people and drive around in posh cars acting all entitled like.

[lostsheep]

Smellyoldgit wrote

Looks like the right-wing toffs have pulled the plug (for the time being) on the frocked fuckers getting the boot.
I predict (not very confidently) the toffs will get the parliamentary boot first.

I'm convinced that religion serves the interests of the wealthy elite. Yet poor fucks flock to it and cling to it and rally around it, and will defend it to their own deaths...or the deaths of others. The more I think I learn about human behavior and human society, the less I think I understand it.

[clambake]

lostsheep wrote

I'm convinced that religion serves the interests of the wealthy elite. Yet poor fucks flock to it and cling to it and rally around it, and will defend it to their own deaths...or the deaths of others. The more I think I learn about human behavior and human society, the less I think I understand it.

Your problem is all that thinkin' and learnin'

[West491]

I agree partially, Sheep.

But what about places where religion exists but there are no wealthy elite- like religion in a small tribe? Do you think that religion serves a different purpose there?

[clambake]

West491 wrote

I agree partially, Sheep.

But what about places where religion exists but there are no wealthy elite- like religion in a small tribe? Do you think that religion serves a different purpose there?

What makes you think there aren't any wealthy elites in a small tribe? "Wealthy elite" is just another way of describing power or control. Wealth is not necessarily measured in money or even physical assets.

[edited to add]

Obviously those tribal wealthy elites wouldn't seem wealthy to us, but within their social frame of reference they would be and that's all they need.

[lostsheep]

West491 wrote

I agree partially, Sheep.

But what about places where religion exists but there are no wealthy elite- like religion in a small tribe? Do you think that religion serves a different purpose there?

clambake wrote

What makes you think there aren't any wealthy elites in a small tribe? "Wealthy elite" is just another way of describing power or control. Wealth is not necessarily measured in money or even physical assets.

[edited to add]

Obviously those tribal wealthy elites wouldn't seem wealthy to us, but within their social frame of reference they would be and that's all they need.

Good points. I think religion persists in part for power consolidation and social cohesion, but also there is a powerful psychological benefit on the individual level, at least that's how it seems to me: more learned peeps than me have said as much.

[West491]

Thanks for clarifying. And now I wholly agree with you.

[Smellyoldgit]

Pah! - it's only a temporary reprieve.

Plans to reform the House of Lords are being abandoned after Conservatives "broke the coalition contract", Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg has announced.

We'll be back, you frocked fuckers.