Should Science Speak To Faith?

Choobus wrote

it's ok, if I was damned I'm sure Jeebus would grant me a scooter and let me into heaven anyway, just so he could hang out with me

You will have to lose the socks first.

just sayin'

[Choobus]

Why does jesus want my sock? What a dirty bastard.

Lily wrote

You will have to lose the cocks first.

just sayin'

Just kidding.....but it makes more sense....

[Sternwallow]

Lily wrote

Ahem. The biological imperative in the cat world is reproduction. While I don't suppose enjoyment is totally impossible (what cat has ever expressed himself on that subject?), it is completely beside the point. If he were behaving normally, he would be out looking for love in the right places right after he finishes breakfast.

My vet cracked up when I told him about it. It ain't normal behavior. It really ain't.

As much as I hate to disagree with you, Lily, the biological imperative in animal behavior is sex, not reproduction. Reproduction is incidental to the psychology and behavior of sex, the actual drive. Other than humans, if all animals were suddenly turned sterile, they wouldn't notice or care while they kept on having sex with anything willing.

Gnosital wrote

Rattie, wot the HELL are you talkin' about????

It just seemed funny to quote the old George Carlin shtick about feelin' up Ellen at the time. Since there had been some discussion earlier about one of us being George Carlin, and..... well, crap. Weeks later, it's whole pile less funny than in the moment. :/ You know how comedy is.....even on a good day with a warmed-up audience.

[Philboid Studge]

Sort of apropos to this thread PZ Myers tears Alister McGrath a new one.

Cal, check it out!

[E]verything I've read by McGrath suggests that here is a man whose thoughts have been arrested by a temporal lobe seizure that he has mistaken for a lightning bolt from god.

(Myers has a way of writing a single blog post that covers much ground. Or rather, it covers the rotting corpse of religiosity with lime in order to stifle the stink.)

[Philboid Studge]

Physicist Paul Davies has written a squishy NYT OpEd piece on how scientists rely on faith.

"...to be a scientist, you had to have faith that the universe is governed by dependable, immutable, absolute, universal, mathematical laws of an unspecified origin."

Edge is collecting responses (after which Dr Davies will have several new arseholes): www.edge.org/discourse/science_faith.html

Philboid Studge wrote

Physicist Paul Davies has written a squishy NYT OpEd piece on how scientists rely on faith.



Edge is collecting responses (after which Dr Davies will have several new arseholes): www.edge.org/discourse/science_faith.html

He's already had the buccal cavity replaced with quite the asshole, based on the shit spewing forth.

[Gnosital]

I just heard him interviewed on Science Fridays about his new book on how quantum physics explains how the universe wouldn't exist without human consciousness. Also how in the future, consciousness will change what has already happened in the past.

He sounded a bit like an douchewizard to me. It made me wish that Choobus had been there to hear it as well. I'd have loved to hear his commentary!

[Gnosital]

Nevermind. I just saw his picture. He's definitely a douchewizard.

http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200711232

[Philboid Studge]

Prof PZ notes what happens when science and faith collude in the same brain, in this case that of the Intelligent Design Artist Formerly Known as a Biologist, Michael Behe.

He starts by declaring that science can't tell us anything about our purpose, and then he goes on to immediately declare that the data of biology lead to an understanding of purpose. Behe is an incredibly muddled thinker — he's got the background that values science, but at the same time he's bogged down in these peculiar presuppositions that make a mess of his brain.

The data of biology do not point to purpose, but to a history of accidents shaped by short-term utility to replicators. [Vatican Assmonkey, Cardinal]Schönborn is unqualified to assess it — he's a blithering theologian — and both Schönborn and Behe are blinded to the overwhelming dominance of chance in our biology by their ideological predispositions.

[calpurnpiso]

The Christ-psychotics retards fail to see that the purpose of life is to pass our genes. This truth hides in plain sight.

It doesn't hide though, Cal. It Just Doesn't Actively Reveal Itself. Retards indeed.

Edit: Hah, I've been typing song titles all day and look what it does to me

[calpurnpiso]

skribb wrote

It doesn't hide though, Cal. It Just Doesn't Actively Reveal Itself. Retards indeed.

Edit: Hah, I've been typing song titles all day and look what it does to me

Genau..I've been composing...happy 2761 auc with abundant mental health thus prosperity is yours!.

I swear I just heard cal on the radio, only he was claiming to be in Kansas City, and going by the name of "Hawkeye." Must've been his separated-at-birth twin or something.