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Old 02-03-2012, 11:34 PM   #31
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I don't think we asked you to prove God in a laboratory. We did ask you to prove God, however.

More specifically, provide proof that there is a God. That's all.

Specific proof. Hopefully in 100 words or less, or better yet, a photo or a video.

I believe that to be a reasonable request.
Stargazer, seriously, are you asking for a photo or video of God?

What can I say? Just point your camera in any direction and snap a photo. There's God.

Why do I get the feeling you're still not convinced?
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:11 AM   #32
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EGOr, if God is so evident and obvious why do you presume to speak for him all the time?

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Old 02-04-2012, 01:10 AM   #33
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Stargazer, seriously, are you asking for a photo or video of God?

What can I say? Just point your camera in any direction and snap a photo. There's God.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...VMgOhUCfWen7tw

There he is!










(that's not me btw, I found it on google)

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Old 02-04-2012, 01:49 AM   #34
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I think I speak for 99% of the atheists here when I say what we want is to believe as much truth as possible, while disbelieving as much false things as possible. If Humankind found solid, scientific evidence that a deity exists, we all would probably accept it and become theists.


I think I speak for 99% of the atheists here when I say that Egor is a wanker.
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:16 AM   #35
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Does Egor believe in unicorns? How about Transpace Energy? The magical energy caused interacting with our dimension that transmits gods will? You cannot see either of these, but they are there. I know this to be true.
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Old 02-04-2012, 04:09 AM   #36
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Just point your camera in any direction and snap a photo. There's God.





Stop the Holy See men!
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Old 02-04-2012, 05:50 AM   #37
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But see here Smelly, all that those pictures really prove is that man has a sinful nature. And even though nothing happens that his not His will, somehow our sinful nature happens in spite of His will. And it is because of our sinful nature that He decides to screw over some among us for life--those in the pictures, for example--because He loves us. It all makes perfect sense, especially after a few drags on the ganja-stick.

I would point Egor to a reasoned treatment of the Problem of Evil, but I get the feeling that the prick is too stupid and it would be wasted effort.

Oh, what the heck. Here, Egor:

http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/a...lds.html#part2
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Old 02-04-2012, 06:38 AM   #38
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Stargazer, seriously, are you asking for a photo or video of God?

What can I say? Just point your camera in any direction and snap a photo. There's God.

Why do I get the feeling you're still not convinced?
I do not understand why God gets to be a special case in the "proving" category. For aliens, you would require a photo, video, or other hard proof. Pictures/videos OF THE ALIEN.

But God? You tell me: Just point your camera in any direction. Really? That proves nothing. It just proves I can take a picture of my dog, or the stack of books on my desk.

You're right. I'm not convinced.

I thought you said you didn't care what any of us thought? So, you do care? I do wish you would make up your mind already. - NKB
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Old 02-04-2012, 06:39 AM   #39
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but I get the feeling that the prick is too stupid and it would be wasted effort.
Methinks you over-rate the dolt - but thanks for reminding me what interesting reading Ebon Musings provides.

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Old 02-04-2012, 07:25 AM   #40
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EGOr, if God is so evident and obvious why do you presume to speak for him all the time?


When have I ever prophesized to you? I donít speak for God; God speaks for God. But if I do speak for God, itís true, because God speaks to me. He speaks to you, too, but you wonít listen.

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I do not understand why God gets to be a special case in the "proving" category. For aliens, you would require a photo, video, or other hard proof. Pictures/videos OF THE ALIEN.


Itís funny you should say that, because thatís the last thing that would convince me. In fact, Iíll bet we can find video and photos of aliens right now on Google and YouTube, but theyíre fake, and even if theyíre not, they might as well be.

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But God? You tell me: Just point your camera in any direction. Really? That proves nothing. It just proves I can take a picture of my dog, or the stack of books on my desk.
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Exactly. So, why do you ask for more proof?

Iíll tell you, I read it so often, ďproof, show me the proof, prove it, show me GodÖĒ Itís like listening to a room full of blind people begging for someone to help them. Then you go to lend them a hand and they slap it away, because you didnít realize they'd already gone insane.
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:41 AM   #41
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And that truth is in complete contradiction to the atheist who posts just after him and says he speak for 99% of all atheist when he says all they want is to believe the truth.
It's not in contradiction at all. I'd bet that ubs wants to be an atheist because that's the most rational viewpoint that humanity has. And if there was evidence to a deity existing, I'm sure he'd want to be a theist, strictly in the context of the evidence.

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I applaud your honesty. Youíre going to burn in hell, of course, but I applaud your honesty.
There is no "of course", as there isn't any evidence for it. It's just your wishful thinking, and quite frankly, it's a threat on your behalf, even considering that there's no such thing. If I were ubs, I would have no reason to even consider what you're saying any more, let alone respond to you.

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Stargazer, seriously, are you asking for a photo or video of God?

What can I say? Just point your camera in any direction and snap a photo. There's God.
So you're defining God as anything you want? Is your god a fire hydrant? Is your god a random hobo?

You need to be more specific in your definition if you wish to put up an argument.

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I do not understand why God gets to be a special case in the "proving" category. For aliens, you would require a photo, video, or other hard proof. Pictures/videos OF THE ALIEN.

But God? You tell me: Just point your camera in any direction. Really? That proves nothing. It just proves I can take a picture of my dog, or the stack of books on my desk.

You're right. I'm not convinced.
Egor is using the common theistic false dichotomy of implying that "the trees and the clouds" etc must be made from the deity he worships, as he doesn't understand the physics behind them, and assumes that a god is the only possible way they could exist.

Of course you probably knew that's what he was saying, but just to make sure.
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:41 AM   #42
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God speaks for God.
You mean like in those pictures Smelly posted?

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Old 02-04-2012, 07:48 AM   #43
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There is no "of course", as there isn't any evidence for it. It's just your wishful thinking, and quite frankly, it's a threat on your behalf, even considering that there's no such thing. If I were ubs, I would have no reason to even consider what you're saying any more, let alone respond to you.
As an Irish/Australian comedian stated recently, telling an Atheist he's going to hell is like a hippie telling a christian he is going to punch him in the aura.

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Old 02-04-2012, 07:56 AM   #44
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Iíll tell you, I read it so often, ďproof, show me the proof, prove it, show me GodÖĒ Itís like listening to a room full of blind people begging for someone to help them. Then you go to lend them a hand and they slap it away, because you didnít realize they'd already gone insane.

Why is proof such a problem?

Why must you deflect attention from the above question by resorting to insults instead?

I thought you said you didn't care what any of us thought? So, you do care? I do wish you would make up your mind already. - NKB
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:11 AM   #45
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I applaud your honesty. Youíre going to burn in hell, of course, but I applaud your honesty.

As for me wanting to be a theist, I thought that was already assumed. Of course I want to be a theist. Iíve spent my life building my relationship with God. There is nothing I want more than that.
Egor, I want you to know something because when this finally comes to pass neither of us will have fingers nor keyboards, nor even mouths to talk about it.

When the two of us are decomposing in a compost heap and my molecules are commingling with yours as they surely will be, the sad erratic gestures of your mitochondria attempting to prostate to shit that isn't there will give me just the time I need to take control.

I promise to be a firm but just master.
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