I no longer try to reason with religious idiots. They do love to be abused.....

[muse]

"If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people" HOUSE

Religion is a mental illness and it destroys the ability to reason. When your head is up your ass the view never changes.
When Jesus lives in your colon, your head will always love being in your colon with the Holy Spirit up there, and the love in knowing God is a bowel movement.

[Smellyoldgit]

Ah, such pooetry - I shall pay homage by crimping off a loaf for Jebus.

[muse]

Jesus comes more often with fiber. Constipated people never know the whole weat Jesus experience.

[divine zombie]

George Bernard Shaw summed up my feelings on dealing with god botherers:

'I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.'

[Professor Chaos]

Edit: I meant This.

(But also, still, This.)

[Smellyoldgit]

Ahh, nostalgia's not what it used to be.
I make every effort to treat the god-whalloping retards with the complete disrespect they deserve, but compared to the ol' fizzicks fucker, I still sound like an English country gent at a strawberry sniffing convention.
Must try harder.

[theistic_sheep]

Actually, I think you missed something... religion, specifically the "Jesus botherers" HAS changed. Dramatically. We no longer stone gays with real rocks, burn witches, the more liberal folk let women talk and wear pants made of mixed material (shock horror). It is difficult to see the change WITHIN a person, but cross culturally, and temporally, you can see a lot of change.

Opposing bigotry and discrimination often doesn't work on one person, or only a very small difference, but the masses working on it large scale over time obviously have made a considerable difference. As they say, anyone who thinks the sum of small changes makes no difference has obviously never studied calculus.

[Stargazer]

theistic_sheep wrote

Actually, I think you missed something... religion, specifically the "Jesus botherers" HAS changed. Dramatically. We no longer stone gays with real rocks, burn witches, the more liberal folk let women talk and wear pants made of mixed material (shock horror). It is difficult to see the change WITHIN a person, but cross culturally, and temporally, you can see a lot of change.

Opposing bigotry and discrimination often doesn't work on one person, or only a very small difference, but the masses working on it large scale over time obviously have made a considerable difference. As they say, anyone who thinks the sum of small changes makes no difference has obviously never studied calculus.

Most of these changes came about because society no longer allows such behavior from theists. It would have been nicer if they had made these changes on their own, and not been forced to by the law. Witness the Mormons having to give up (mostly - some still haven't) having multiple wives. If it hadn't been against the law, do you think it would have changed? And If you say this was a harmless practice, remember, there was a tendency to marry off girls to much older men, as if they were cattle to be traded.

So I do not really think a whole lot of weight can be placed on these changes.

[Irreligious]

theistic_sheep wrote

Actually, I think you missed something... religion, specifically the "Jesus botherers" HAS changed. Dramatically. We no longer stone gays with real rocks, burn witches, the more liberal folk let women talk and wear pants made of mixed material (shock horror). It is difficult to see the change WITHIN a person, but cross culturally, and temporally, you can see a lot of change.

Opposing bigotry and discrimination often doesn't work on one person, or only a very small difference, but the masses working on it large scale over time obviously have made a considerable difference. As they say, anyone who thinks the sum of small changes makes no difference has obviously never studied calculus.

Do you think new discoveries, both scientific and philosophical, had anything to do with tempering the more strident Christian behaviors of the past? Not to mention the influence of the abundant variety of Christian denominations and sects that have evolved and given rise to newer interpretations of the canonical texts over the centuries?

Otherwise, the substance of the Bible hasn't change much over a millennia-and-a-half. It still prohibits the wearing of mixed fabrics and consuming pork and shellfish. The text continues to condone slavery and still calls for the stoning of men who lie with other men, effeminate men, men without beards, "sullied" women, women who are too vocal and assorted adjudged heretics.

As a result, any Christian who is of a mind to can still defend his penchant for barbarity by using the text of the Bible for support.

Otherwise, there are still places in the world where "the religious" still perpetuate atrocities in the name of their religions because, ultimately, that is what their religions call for.

[Stargazer]

Irreligious wrote

Otherwise, there are still places in the world where "the religious" still perpetuate atrocities in the name of their religions because, ultimately, that is what their religions call for.

In a nutshell, religions abuse, and demand the "right" to do so?

[psychodiva]

theistic_sheep wrote

Actually, I think you missed something... religion, specifically the "Jesus botherers" HAS changed. Dramatically. We no longer stone gays with real rocks, burn witches, the more liberal folk let women talk and wear pants made of mixed material (shock horror). It is difficult to see the change WITHIN a person, but cross culturally, and temporally, you can see a lot of change.

Opposing bigotry and discrimination often doesn't work on one person, or only a very small difference, but the masses working on it large scale over time obviously have made a considerable difference. As they say, anyone who thinks the sum of small changes makes no difference has obviously never studied calculus.

as the man said- good people will do good things despite religion- it takes religion to make good people do bad things

[Stargazer]

psychodiva wrote

as the man said- good people will do good things despite religion- it takes religion to make good people do bad things

THAT is a great summary. Can I make it into a bumper sticker? I will quote you, of course..........

[West491]

I reckon religion ain't changed a lick. Time has kept ticking and some people have moved along with it. Only the thickest of idiots take their holy text literally and we have a name for them- terrorists.

[theistic_sheep]

Which is why we see Christians eating bacon, wearing clothes of mixed fibers, and not stoning gays? Of course it has changed.

[West491]

You sort of missed the point. The way that people respond to religion has changed, not religion. The bible still commands you to stone fags, ya know?