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Old 01-10-2018, 10:22 AM   #31
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:30 AM   #32
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What I'm watching right now...

DEBATE: Atheists vs Christians (Krauss + Shermer vs D'Souza + Hutchinson)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7vEB6FXtbs

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Old 01-10-2018, 10:33 AM   #33
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DEBATE: Atheists vs Christians (Krauss + Shermer vs D'Souza + Hutchinson)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7vEB6FXtbs
I'll take Krauss and give you 3 pts.
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:38 AM   #34
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Davin and Smelly in particular, while seeming a bit unfriendly in their posts at time, have argued sentimentally for the brotherhood of man - a Christian position.
Fuck off, this is nothing to do with your jesus based wank. As Kinich pointed out, this is Humanism - look it up.
The only christian position of slight interest is missionary - and even that's boring after a couple of shags!

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Old 01-10-2018, 10:47 AM   #35
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I'll take Krauss and give you 3 pts.
Krauss is crude idiot with stupid ideas like "nothing" has a weight.

And why do atheists always dress like shit? The other side is in nice suits, look dignified, and are smart. The atheists are all casual--like dirt people. Just wondering.

Okay, it's just Krauss, but my point is still half-valid.

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Old 01-10-2018, 10:52 AM   #36
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You don't get it. The proof you're talking about is "proof that would convince YOU." And I fully admit, there may be no such proof available. You may be doomed. I suppose only you can figure that one out.

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Old 01-10-2018, 10:56 AM   #37
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You don't get it. The proof you're talking about is "proof that would convince YOU." And I fully admit, there may be no such proof available. You may be doomed. I suppose only you can figure that one out.
Proof is a slippery slope.

What level is satisfactory?.

Descartes got it right after all, the only thing anyone can truly know, know absolutely for sure is...


I THINK THEREFORE I AM!

There are good reasons to suspect there may be a God.! Place your hope in one - !!
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:59 AM   #38
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Well said.

I have wondered, even though is opposition to the position of the Church, whether it matters more (with regards to salvation) that a follower believes in the "teachings of Jesus" - more so than the status of Jesus (or God).

An atheist can certainly believe in the Teachings of Jesus.
Good point. I hadn't thought of it that way. I think you're right.

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Davin and Smelly in particular, while seeming a bit unfriendly in their posts at time, have argued sentimentally for the brotherhood of man - a Christian position.
Exactly. I don't even think they're real atheists. A real atheist would be a self-centered hedonist, essentially an animal. I mean, even my dogs don't treat each other badly. Even my dogs have a basic "survival morality" if you will. And a real atheist would not rise above that.

Just saying you don't believe in God means nothing. Look at all the Christians that say they believe in Jesus.

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Old 01-10-2018, 11:06 AM   #39
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andoid, you don't think therefore you are not.

Now fuck off.

Oh, and cut out the weird shit.
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:09 AM   #40
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Krauss is crude idiot with stupid ideas like "nothing" has a weight.

And why do atheists always dress like shit? The other side is in nice suits, look dignified, and are smart. The atheists are all casual--like dirt people. Just wondering.

Okay, it's just Krauss, but my point is still half-valid.
Crude? maybe.

Idiot? Nooooooo.

OK, I'll take half of Krauss and give you 1.5 pts.

This way, I'll be valid half the time.
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:50 AM   #41
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Proof is a slippery slope.

What level is satisfactory?.

Descartes got it right after all, the only thing anyone can truly know, know absolutely for sure is...


I THINK THEREFORE I AM!

There are good reasons to suspect there may be a God.! Place your hope in one - !!
Oh, surely you've heard: The atheists have done away with Descartes axiom. You see, they think consciousness and brain activity are the same thing. I think they call it "identity theory."

What they say is that anything you think IS the biochemical/electrical activity of your brain. Hence it's an illusion, but with no one there to be illuded. It's a fancy way of saying the "you" you think you are does not exist--the feeling that you do exist IS the workings of the gelatinous neuro-mold within your skull.

It's actually a form of intellectual cowardice, and it would be the inane ramblings of a shopping-cart pushing schizophrenic, but it's the academic elite who are claiming it, the self-appointed creators of truth.

It's the same thing as saying: just because something obviously exists doesn't mean it does exist. Just because you think it is there doesn't mean there is a you to begin with. It's Winston being tortured into saying 4 fingers is really 5 (see 1984).

And it's airtight. There is no way to argue against it. It's un-falsifiable. It's their version of "God did it."

With that belief firmly in place, they could, without conscience (because they don't believe in conscience anyway), solve over-population by putting live people through massive meat grinders and feeding the ground beef to other people. Why wouldn't they? Who knows? Don't ask them--they claim they don't exist.

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Old 01-10-2018, 12:34 PM   #42
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:42 PM   #43
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Oh, surely you've heard: The atheists have done away with Descartes axiom.
android, the weird twat, still thinks we have a king on the throne.

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Old 01-10-2018, 01:17 PM   #44
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Oh, surely you've heard: The atheists have done away with Descartes axiom. You see, they think consciousness and brain activity are the same thing. I think they call it "identity theory."

What they say is that anything you think IS the biochemical/electrical activity of your brain. Hence it's an illusion, but with no one there to be illuded. It's a fancy way of saying the "you" you think you are does not exist--the feeling that you do exist IS the workings of the gelatinous neuro-mold within your skull.

It's actually a form of intellectual cowardice, and it would be the inane ramblings of a shopping-cart pushing schizophrenic, but it's the academic elite who are claiming it, the self-appointed creators of truth.

It's the same thing as saying: just because something obviously exists doesn't mean it does exist. Just because you think it is there doesn't mean there is a you to begin with. It's Winston being tortured into saying 4 fingers is really 5 (see 1984).

And it's airtight. There is no way to argue against it. It's un-falsifiable. It's their version of "God did it."

With that belief firmly in place, they could, without conscience (because they don't believe in conscience anyway), solve over-population by putting live people through massive meat grinders and feeding the ground beef to other people. Why wouldn't they? Who knows? Don't ask them--they claim they don't exist.
I suppose some would call this brain activity, whether Egor is all here though I'm not so sure.

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Old 01-10-2018, 01:30 PM   #45
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I suppose some would call this brain activity, whether Egor is all here though I'm not so sure.
It's the same old Ebore.
Arrogant, hate-filled, angry, stupidly wrong, lazy, shit-stirring assclown with delusions of relevance.
He's too far gone to understand why his attitude gets him banned, rejected & laughed at - and why his 'ventures' all seem to go tits up.
Hell be bored and moving on pretty soon. Inshallah.

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