07-07-2006, 04:37 AM
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Demigod79 wrote
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anthonyjfuchs wrote
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CanuckFish wrote
I challenge anyone here to justify human reasoning without assuming it's validity in advance.
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Holy fuckin shit dude.
THAT'S NOT THE FUCKIN ISSUE.
Is there some genetic variation in the Christian genome that prevents those child-raping shit-suckers from STAYING ON TOPIC?
Why don't you justify the human reasoning that makes you think your bible has meaning without assuming its validity in advance. After all, you have reasoned that your bible is true, but please justify that reasoning without assuming, in advance, that it is valid.
I won't hold my fuckin breath, you buck-toothed twat.
Here it is, ONE MORE FUCKIN TIME:
We use inductive reasoning BECAUSE IT HAS WORKED.
It continues to work, just as it has in the past.
We only continue to use it because it has worked.
This does not imply that it necessarily MUST continue to work.
It simply has.
If it ceases to work, we will find another, more effective means of interacting with reality and making predictions about the future.
The only assumption we're making is that, based on its ability to work in the past, inductive reasoning will work in the future.
If that assumption fails -- if inductive reasoning suddenly fails to reliably predict future phenomena -- then we will discard it and find a new method.
Do tell; what kind of reasoning do YOU use to make accurate predictions about the future?
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Interesting thing is, a secularist will only use a system that's been proven to work. A 99%-100% success rate would be considered high for a secularist. Anything with a 1%-5% success rate would be considered a fluke and not worth using at all.
A theist on the other hand will pray to god a hundred times over without success (or even any indication that it's working). And then, on the hundredth try they (usually by coincidence) get what they prayed for and suddenly prayer works! To them a 1% success rate would be considered high (hell, even a 0.00000001% success rate would be a firm indication that prayer works).
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Actually, the smaller the percentage is, the better and more magnificent is the miracle of that event. How glorious it is that, despite a probability of 1/10^97032, god (as opposed to any one of the other infinity of equivalent powerful entities) created the world. It humbles me just contemplating the mystery of it all. Isn't it just the very bestest blessing that god created us instead of AFVYBFB, the god of NSDNS, to the great relief of poor spellers everywhere.
"Those who most loudly proclaim their honesty are least likely to possess it."
"Atheism: rejecting all absurdity." S.H.
"Reality, the God alternative"
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07-07-2006, 01:28 PM
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#302
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Victus wrote
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Sternwallow wrote
This idea is a good one (not in any absolute sense, mind you), but it is very old. The entertainment value was shown already when Nero threw a bunch of Christians into the arena where they slew each other without the need for any wild animals.
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Well, 'Survivor' was an old idea (as old as it gets, I suppose). I'm sure we can spice things up if rating go down, throw in some hallucinagenics to one of the Christians to make him think he's talking to God (of course, a few of them might think this without the advent of mind altering chemicals).
We would make such awesome 'Sim' type game creators. :D
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Man is the Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself, and cuts his throat if his theology isn’t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brothers path to happiness and heaven. He was at it in the time of the Caesars, he was at it in Mahomets time, he was at it in the time of the Inquisition, he was at it in France a couple of centuries, he was at it in England in Mary’s day, he has been at it ever since he first saw the light, he is at it today in Creteas per the telegrams quoted above, he will be at it somewhere else tomorrow. The higher animals have no religion. And we are told that they are going to be left out, in the Hereafter. I wonder why? It seems questionable taste.
Man is the Reasoning Animal. Such is the claim. I think it is open to dispute. Indeed, my experiments have proven to me that he is the Unreasoning Animal. Note his history, as sketched above. It seems plain to me that whatever he is he is not a reasoning animal. His record is the fantastic record of a maniac. I consider that the strongest count against his intelligence is the fact that with that record back of him he blandly sets himself up as the head animal of the lot: whereas by his own standards he is the bottom one.
In truth, man is incurably foolish. Simple things which the other animals easily learn, he is incapable of learning. Among my experiments was this. In an hour I taught a cat and a dog to be friends. I put them in a cage. In another hour I taught them to be friends with a rabbit. In the course of two days I was able to add a fox, a goose, a squirrel and some doves. Finally a monkey. They lived together in peace; even affectionately.
Next, in another cage I confined an Irish Catholic from Tipperary, and as soon as he seemed tame I added a Scotch Presbyterian from Aberdeen. Next a Turk from Constantinople; a Greek Christian from Crete; an Armenian; a Methodist from the wilds of Arkansas; a Buddhist from China; a Brahman from Benares. Finally, a Salvation Army Colonel from Wapping. Then I stayed away two whole days. When I came back to note results, the cage of Higher Animals was all right, but in the other there was but a chaos of gory odds and ends of turbans and fezzes and plaids and bones and flesh, not a specimen left alive. These Reasoning Animals had disagreed on a theological detail and carried the matter to a Higher Court.
Mark Twain “The Damned Human Race”
"Those who most loudly proclaim their honesty are least likely to possess it."
"Atheism: rejecting all absurdity." S.H.
"Reality, the God alternative"
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07-09-2006, 06:24 PM
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#303
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Victus wrote
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Sternwallow wrote
This idea is a good one (not in any absolute sense, mind you), but it is very old. The entertainment value was shown already when Nero threw a bunch of Christians into the arena where they slew each other without the need for any wild animals.
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Well, 'Survivor' was an old idea (as old as it gets, I suppose). I'm sure we can spice things up if rating go down, throw in some hallucinagenics to one of the Christians to make him think he's talking to God (of course, a few of them might think this without the advent of mind altering chemicals).
We would make such awesome 'Sim' type game creators. :D
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I think these ideas are horrible and disgusting.
You should never do anything this immoral.
What you should do is be honest.
Take each of the types of christians out there. Stick them on an island.
Put lots of each of their own propaganda on the island for them to see. And in turn put a lot of documentaries about the horrors caused by their own cults. Then let them have access to the weapons they need to bring their religous views across to everyone else. No need to push them, no need to lie to them, let them take care of themselves throught their own religous biggotry. And then afterwards we go therough their pockets and take their wallets.
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07-11-2006, 08:39 PM
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#304
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anthonyjfuchs wrote
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evident_enigma wrote
I'm curious, what version of the bible do you read?
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Are you presuming that a Shitlord can read?
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Why not?
Why couldn't he?
E_E
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07-16-2006, 10:04 AM
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This one time at a frat party, a young man claiming to be Jesus incarnate changed piss into beer. A miracle indeed. But then I wowed them all myself ..... in just 10 minutes, I changed it back. God ... I hope that was beer.
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07-18-2006, 01:19 AM
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#306
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Guest
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God does not exist.
God and religion are both merely but other tools created by the human race
to help explain the complications of life.
God is used only as a sence of security for someone to help them get through something e.g; life, job interview, relationship, tragedy, etc...
god is used only as a tool.
a safety net, crutch = tool = god
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07-19-2006, 02:17 PM
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It's obvious that most of the people who believe in god are tools, but that's the first time I've seen anyone call god himself a tool.
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07-19-2006, 04:34 PM
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General of the Attacking Army
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pittsburgh
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Intelligencia wrote
This one time at a frat party, a young man claiming to be Jesus incarnate changed piss into beer. A miracle indeed. But then I wowed them all myself ..... in just 10 minutes, I changed it back. God ... I hope that was beer.
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Am I missing some other reference or did this person spell Intelligentsia wrong? Cause that's pretty fucking funny if he did.
I will grieve. Grief is not a theistic concept. ~ Sternwallow
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