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Old 10-29-2009, 08:11 AM   #16
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Oh hell, gimme 80 virgins (young blondes and brunettes, all aged between sixteen and nineteen and a half of course!) and I'm good.

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Old 10-29-2009, 08:20 AM   #17
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Midget & Crapper?!

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Old 10-29-2009, 08:22 AM   #18
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Oh hell, gimme 80 virgins (young blondes and brunettes, all aged between sixteen and nineteen and a half of course!) and I'm good.
You are getting a bit expensive there, 72 is the usual going rate.
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:42 AM   #19
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Inflation?

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Old 10-29-2009, 08:49 AM   #20
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Teh Mooslims only get 72 because they tithe 10% to Jebus.

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Old 10-30-2009, 05:17 AM   #21
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Question for atheists: What kind of evidence would it take to get you to believe in god?
For starters, I require some real evidence that a logically impossible entity can exist.

Then I need real evidence that such an entity is the only cause of the known features of the Universe. For example, show that God and not gravity is the reason that stars coalesce from clouds of material. An intermediate step here could be evidence that God created gravity rather than that gravity is a direct consequence of the existence of space-time and matter.

Then, I would need real evidence identifying which of the thousands of recognized gods is the one true God. Note on this point, that there are 3 separate and distinct gods in the Abrahamic tradition, only one, at most, can be the right one. I hardly need mention the 30,000 different and incompatible gods just within the Christian tradition, all of which but one must be wrong.

Last, there would have to be concrete reasons to consider the God worthy of worship. Evidence of God's good moral character and real benevolence would apply to this item. The existence of evil in a system constructed entirely by God and His creations, makes evidence for worshipping Him very difficult to identify if there is any such evidence.

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Old 10-30-2009, 08:29 AM   #22
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Question for atheists: What kind of evidence would it take to get you to believe in god?
It depends on what you mean by God, since there are as many definitions of God as their are theists.

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Old 10-30-2009, 09:21 AM   #23
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Question for atheists: What kind of evidence would it take to get you to believe in god?
The only kind that matters: Concrete and sustained.

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