Are Trolling Fuckwits Worth The Trouble?

[JerryJohn]

Andrew66 wrote

That's wonderful JJ, you must be really proud!

Just so everyone knows, hate to brag, but beyond my clinical practice I'm also a Neuro and Cardiovascular research scientist - I've published several dozen papers. My field is more related to novel methods for treating blood flow disturbances - ischemia - than neural activity however.

Yes, we Christians are a smart bunch!!! Not sitting behind a screen at Hertz Van rental Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Praise the Lord!!

I mentioned my daughter because neuroscience is so fascinating to me. She loved it as well which is amazing to me, and my wife is a nurse with a BSN who did her internship on a Neurosurgery floor. So, I WAS privy from my daughter when she wasn't busy, which was rarely, to discussions regarding this subject. Now she's in med school so we talk weekly. She just wrapped up her Cardiovascular unit with the big test behind her, and will be studying the respiratory system next. We have a medical connection, Andrew.

The medical "stuff" from my daughter and wife evens out my brain from business thinking for I operate a small business. It's not too small actually but manageable.

The other young adult we have is finding his way at this point in time, headed for business type endeavors.

God has obviously gifted you with talent in research. Very interesting.

Here, I thought you were a flippin' burgers at some hamburger joint, and of course I 'm really a Walmart greeter.....

JJ

[Kinich Ahau]

Of all the things you have written I believe that last sentence most.

[Sinfidel]

JerryJohn wrote

I mentioned my daughter because neuroscience is so fascinating to me. She loved it as well which is amazing to me, and my wife is a nurse with a BSN who did her internship on a Neurosurgery floor. So, I WAS privy from my daughter when she wasn't busy, which was rarely, to discussions regarding this subject. Now she's in med school so we talk weekly. She just wrapped up her Cardiovascular unit with the big test behind her, and will be studying the respiratory system next. We have a medical connection, Andrew.

The medical "stuff" from my daughter and wife evens out my brain from business thinking for I operate a small business. It's not too small actually but manageable.

The other young adult we have is finding his way at this point in time, headed for business type endeavors.

God has obviously gifted you with talent in research. Very interesting.

Here, I thought you were a flippin' burgers at some hamburger joint, and of course I 'm really a Walmart greeter.....

JJ

A66 & JJ sharing a crack pipe.....

[Andrew66]

Kinich Ahau wrote

Of all the things you have written I believe that last sentence most.

Oh Kinich, so nice.. your little quips.

[Davin]

It's weird and kind of sad to see the lies they come up with about their lives.

[dogpet]

The Judge wrote

Thanks dogpet
Are you talking about confinement (prison / psychiatric detention) or execution here because the finality of one precludes any attempt at effecting meaningful change?

No, nothing like that Judge. I was asking about the opinion of some religious types. That without faith many of the sheeple would become antisocial & criminal, & if so it may be best for all to not disrupt their happy delusion.

[Davin]

Brain Surgeon

[Sinfidel]

dogpet wrote

No, nothing like that Judge. I was asking about the opinion of some religious types. That without faith many of the sheeple would become antisocial & criminal, & if so it may be best for all to not disrupt their happy delusion.

Doubtful. After all, loot, steal, lie, cheat, rape, murder, then just say the magic word - Jesus, and all is forgiven. Welcome to heaven!

[Sinfidel]

Odd that our two brain surgeons are posting in a little atheist blog - you'd think they would be busy impressing their colleagues with articles in medical journals....

[Sinfidel]

Andrew66 wrote

That's wonderful JJ, you must be really proud!

Just so everyone knows, hate to brag, but beyond my clinical practice I'm also a Neuro and Cardiovascular research scientist - I've published several dozen papers. My field is more related to novel methods for treating blood flow disturbances - ischemia - than neural activity however.

Yes, we Christians are a smart bunch!!! Not sitting behind a screen at Hertz Van rental Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Praise the Lord!!

[Sinfidel]

Andrew66 wrote
Quote:
That's wonderful JJ, you must be really proud!

Just so everyone knows, hate to brag, but beyond my clinical practice I'm also a Neuro and Cardiovascular research scientist - I've published several dozen papers. My field is more related to novel methods for treating blood flow disturbances - ischemia - than neural activity however.

[The Judge]

Andrew66 wrote

Before I respond, please define what you mean by "Omni-max" God?

dogpet wrote

No, nothing like that Judge. I was asking about the opinion of some religious types. That without faith many of the sheeple would become antisocial & criminal, & if so it may be best for all to not disrupt their happy delusion.

Ahhh, I see.

Yeah that's just bollocks because it assumes that the religious have a monopoly on ethics and that most humans are little better than animals.

If that were true it should amaze these people that we as a group don't commit casual murder, eat babies and drink the blood of virgins. The fact that we do none of these things despite lacking religion is somehow lost on their little minds.

[The Judge]

JerryJohn wrote

Yes it did. My daughter is a first year medical student at Northwestern and her undergraduate degree was Neuorscience at Vanderbilt.

An interesting topic indeed.

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate hearing your point of view.


JJ

You're welcome. Good luck to your daughter.

[The Judge]

Andrew"There, all fixed"66 wrote

Well

Looking at scripture - it is not so completely clear as you make it that what is described is an Omnimax God.

For example, there is scripture which says God "Knows all things" but it doesn't elaborate that God explicitly knows the future for each and every human. It could be that God knows all things at present state only, and since he knows all the players and the physics in our environment maximally well he can predict the future with near flawless certainty.

First off you just basically said that "god" CAN tell the future with "near flawless certainty."

And FYI I never started down the road of saying that this posed some sort of "conundrum" with regard to free will. If you'd actually read my previous post to JJ you'd have understood this. Alas, you have not done / were not capable of doing this.

Andrew"There, all fixed"66 wrote

With regards to there being evil in the world, you suggest that is incompatible with a perfectly loving God. Very short sited![sic]

You see (please pay attention here ) - it is not as clear as you think what a perfectly "loving" and "benevolent" God may do.

Umm...I'm pretty sure "he" wouldn't have permitted the holocaust, child rape and murder, bone cancer in children, ANY natural disaster costing swathes of human life (need I really I go on?)

I feel that I am not the one being short "sighted" (that was what you meant wasn't it?!)

Andrew"There, all fixed"66 wrote

Maybe it is the most perfect love for God to give his children freedom (over tyranny!) - even at a price of introducing evil.!! Hence one could say God is "maximized" in his love - allowing for free will.

Three things here:
1.) You're just fucking wrong for all the reasons I've already listed
2.) This pathetic and weak piece of crap answer completely fails to take into account the fall out from natural disasters/suffering (including animal suffering too if you want to make it a bit more interesting).
3.) The free will of victims to not be maimed, murdered, or tortured is clearly less important to your version of a "god" than those who just happen to be stronger with more weapons.

Your ignorance is really beginning to foul up this place Mr. "fix it." It is frankly deeply disheartening that there are advocates of your simple, puerile and fucked up belief system that are so achingly simple and naive as you.

I still submit to you that you need to "fix" your own beliefs Mr. "fix it" to be a little more coherent.

Either you are a deist and believe in a mere multi-max "god" or you're a christian and you believe in an omni-max god (you've already admitted to its omniscience above, how about the rest?)

[JerryJohn]

Andrew66 wrote

Oh Kinich, so nice.. your little quips.

LOL. Yes, very um,well shall we say, "charming" in a quircky way.

JJ