01-24-2018, 04:17 AM
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#2971
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JerryJohn wrote
I have come to realize that many who post here apparently have researched the claims of Christianity and reject them due to lack of evidence.
I am impressed with the Biblical knowledge many posters here have and I might say I do believe that Hertz is very well versed in history.
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I don't care what you believe/don't believe or why. It isn't about belief. It's about what you can PROVE.
If you want to know about christardology, ask a typical atheist because they have actually read and thought about it - unlike a typical christard whose knowledge of christardology is, quite frankly, somewhat lacking.
[quote=JerryJohn;690457] I have come to believe no theist can prove to an atheist to their expectation of proof that there is a God. /QUOTE]
See, there you go again. We don't set the standard of expectation.
It is set using the Scientific Method (see below)
christardology fails on all counts. It isn't that the proof of de lard is flimsy. There is no proof whatsoever that withstands scientific scrutiny. christardology is called a FAITH for a reason. There is no proof. It requires belief without proof. Now, one either requires proof to believe in something or one does not require proof to believe in something.
Me?
I deman proof.
There is no proof of de lard so I don't believe.
You and android?
You'll believe in anything and everything because you two don't need proof. You two are what atheists call gullible.
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JerryJohn wrote
I would certainly agree that skepticism and critical thinking are most important both in life in general of course, and determining a belief system. I believe a theist can have those traits as well.
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Believe what you want. If you believe that a ghost can rape a woman, then, patently, you are talking bollocks.
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JerryJohn wrote
1. I believe the atheists that post here, generally, not all posters of course (no need to name names) believe one cannot be a logical and critical tinker if they are theist. That claim I reject.
Regards,
JJ
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Reject all you wish. If you believe that a sky wizard created the universe then you are neither a critical thinker nor are you logical.
You can try and convince yourself all you want but we both know that you are talking horseshit.
To logically believe, one needs proof. To think critically, one analyses facts.
You have no proof of your christardological claims nor are there any verifiable facts to analyse.
You are not a critical thinker nor are you logical. You are an idiot.
Only a brainwashed christard would think in this manner. Reject all you will. It changes nought.
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01-24-2018, 04:37 AM
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#2972
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JerryJohn wrote
Yes. I will comment on your points later. When I do you should listen up and take notes.
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Fuck you.
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JerryJohn wrote
do you disrespect all THEISTS truly as useless pieces of shit?
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Well spotted Sherlock. The penny finally drops.
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JerryJohn wrote
If so, how is that any different that any other type of prejudice? I am thinking of racism, misogyny, etc?
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AFAIK, I'm only anti-christard and that's only because they have fucked and continue to fuck society in the ass. Now, I do what I am legally able to do to respond to their horseshit.
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Was it you who were raised Catholic?
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Me a cat licker, ex or otherwise? Hell fuckin' no. Another "fact" you got wrong jerrypong - just like christardology. Do you not read and comprehend anything? In a previous post, I stated that my parents were AGNOSTIC. Little wonder that you believe in christardology if you get even simple facts like this wrong?
Time and time again, you and android fail to show that you can read and comprehend. Little wonder that you are christards. Little wonder. You really need to improve jerrypong. You are slipping again, BOY, you useless little immature twat.
Oh, I'd still like you and android to star in the Raving Atheists reenactment of the crucifixion. How about it, eh? Hell, de lard might even put in an appearance when we hammer the nails in and your screaming starts.
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01-24-2018, 07:37 AM
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#2973
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Hertzy,
To state ALL Christians are pieces of shit is childish and immature. Do you know any Christians or have any Christian friends/ family or do you just hang out in atheist groups and fuel your hatred, like a KKK members did in their groups?
JJ
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01-24-2018, 08:43 AM
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#2974
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JerryJohn wrote
Hertzy,
To state ALL Christians are pieces of shit is childish and immature. Do you know any Christians or have any Christian friends/ family or do you just hang out in atheist groups and fuel your hatred, like a KKK members did in their groups?
JJ
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Why is it childish and immature?
christards propagate and support a cult that has done enormous damage to Mankind. Christardology has been responsible for the death of millions. It has raped and pillaged its way through history. Christard churches are amongst the richest entities on the planet. This is in spite of it pleading poverty is a virtue. The cat licker church, in fact, is the richest entity on the planet. AND STILL IT WANTS MORE - TO FIX THE ROOF OR REPAIR THE ORGAN.
Is it childish and immature to castigate Hitler and his Nazis?
Well, here's a fact for you.
Hitler, who, incidentally, didn't pretend to be a peaceable fellow, 'only' managed to murder just less than 10 million Jews. Poor, poor souls. christards, who 'pretend' to be about peace, love, understanding and acceptance murdered between 10 and 20 times that number.
We try and respectfully converse with christards on christard forums. At the first mention of atheism, we receive life-time bans.
Today, their clergy molest our children and then hide behind a church that protects them.
Even though christardology is on the wane, even here in the UK, they try and infiltrate our educational system in an attempt to swell their depleted numbers and have creationism taught on a par with evolution. It happens in the USA too.
Anyone who supports such a cult will incur my wrath.
jerrypong, you are a five-star, first-class, ocean going twat of the first water. You are brainwashed. You believe that ghosts can rape women and make them pregnant. In spite of this, you have the gaul to claim to be logical and a critical thinker. You have less than zero credibility.
I have no issue with what people think or who they pray to. I really don't and that's the honest truth. I will even defend their rights, regardless of whether I believe and approve, because it's who I am. If this forum banned you because you were a religtard, I would support you, NOT this forum. I know you may find that difficult to understand, but there it is. Freedom of speech is a two-way street in my book. It may not be on christard forums, but with me, it is. However, when religtards bring their beliefs into the public domain, that's when I exercise my right to freedom of speech, within the limit of the law. You bring religtardology in the public domain (this forum), I will attack.
Understand, or do you need a diagram of where you can put your cultish belief?
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01-24-2018, 08:46 AM
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#2975
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The Judge wrote
Here are just some of the extraordinary claims of the buybull...it is by no means an exhaustive list:
An omnimax creator "god"
Making light before light-producing objects
Making a man from dust
Making a woman from his rib
A talking snake
Biblical characters living for 300-900+ years
Lot's wife being turned into a pillar of salt
A talking burning bush
Angels
The virgin birth
All miracles
Death and subsequent resurrection
Pretty much all of the book of Revelations
If you are a different person to most rational, sane people and you think that these things are mundane, everyday occurrences, then I guess you wouldn't expect any explanation.
If this is the case then surely this suits you very well since there is no rational or logical explanation. It is less a matter of perspective as you suggest, JJ and more one of logic and common sense.
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I appreciate your answer as it speaks to direct claims in the Bible you reject which is an issue with many people that I dialogue with especially online that are atheists that have actually read it and studied its history.
What is your opinion of the Bible in the sense of it as a whole?
Do you believe it is a complete hoax, written to "trick" people into believing in Christianity (My sister, as I noted, who said a bunch of drunks wrote it while laughing their asses off thinking someone would someday some people might believe this BS)
I am interested in your opinion about why the Bible was written and any other thoughts in addition to the points made above.
I understand the claims in it you reject.
Do you work with any physicians that are Christians?
I would think there are a few or maybe you know the stats as to how many, and if so, do you feel that they are not rational, sane have no common sense people? After all they are educated to a high degree. I assume they are rational, logical and sane at some level.
What about other Christians you might know such as friends or family?
Do you tell them outright if they ever bring up their Faith that they are not rational, sane, logical people?
I'm just wondering how you interact with Christians.
My sister does not discuss the issue unless someone brings the subject of religion up which in her case, and maybe many, doesn't happen in day to day interactions and often rare to be discussed at all.
Work environments often have strict rules of no speaking of religion at work lest someone discriminates against someone of a different denomination or mocks that religion. Here, an employer can be sued for that.
JJ
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01-24-2018, 09:02 AM
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#2976
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Quote:
JerryJohn wrote
Hertzy,
To state ALL Christians are pieces of shit is childish and immature. Do you know any Christians or have any Christian friends/ family or do you just hang out in atheist groups and fuel your hatred, like a KKK members did in their groups?
JJ
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Considering that you have expressed your love for totally racist Trump, great job of showing what a hypocrite you are, but then what christard isn't?
Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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01-24-2018, 09:14 AM
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#2977
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Sinfidel wrote
Considering that you have expressed your love for totally racist Trump, great job of showing what a hypocrite you are, but then what christard isn't?
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01-24-2018, 09:18 AM
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#2978
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JerryJohn wrote
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Judge,
I appreciate your dialogue. You are obviously intelligent and don't use all the immature language.
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What a troll! You, JJ are the one bragging about imaginary BJ's from imaginary wifey, like a teenage braggart!
Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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01-24-2018, 09:46 AM
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#2979
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Quote:
JerryJohn wrote
Hertzy,
To state ALL Christians are pieces of shit is childish and immature. Do you know any Christians or have any Christian friends/ family or do you just hang out in atheist groups and fuel your hatred, like a KKK members did in their groups?
JJ
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Losing this one too, aincha, jerrypong?
Improvement required methinks.
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01-24-2018, 11:16 AM
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#2980
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hertz vanrental wrote
Losing this one too, aincha, jerrypong?
Improvement required methinks.
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Of course not, anyone who believes in Jesus is the ultimate winner you see, Hertzy. You will never understand of course but that is the truth.
I never claimed to be able to be able to prove anything to you. It's not my problem, I am interested in learning more about why you guys personally are atheist and others as well.
You forgot to answer the question. Do you have Christian family/friends? If so how do you work around the fact they are Christian?.
Do you have some fucked up policy that you don't speak to them or any Christians at all?, Is the real fact you do have Christian family and friends that you speak with decently. Perhaps that's possible for you?
Perhaps you are a loner with no friends.
JJ
My own perception of you is you are a loner and hang around with yourself which would be disappointing company.
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01-24-2018, 11:21 AM
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#2981
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Sinfidel wrote
JerryJohn wrote
What a troll! You, JJ are the one bragging about imaginary BJ's from imaginary wifey, like a teenage braggart!
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You don't "get it " yet do ya?
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01-24-2018, 11:56 AM
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#2982
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JerryJohn wrote
Of course not, anyone who believes in Jesus is the ultimate winner you see, Hertzy. You will never understand of course but that is the truth.
I never claimed to be able to be able to prove anything to you. It's not my problem, I am interested in learning more about why you guys personally are atheist and others as well.
You forgot to answer the question. Do you have Christian family/friends? If so how do you work around the fact they are Christian?.
Do you have some fucked up policy that you don't speak to them or any Christians at all?, Is the real fact you do have Christian family and friends that you speak with decently. Perhaps that's possible for you?
Perhaps you are a loner with no friends.
JJ
My own perception of you is you are a loner and hang around with yourself which would be disappointing company.
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I couldn't give a flying fart what your perception of me is. You are just a christard chew stick is all. I am secure in myself and have been so for some time.
You just don't get it do you?
I have friends who are christards, atheists, agnostics and don't knows. They all stay well away from christardology in my presence. They know better. If they wanna talk about it, fine. But then, I'll go for the jugular and won't hold back. Friend or no friend. They know and understand that. If they wanna stay friends. Fine. If they don't, that's fine too. I don't try and influence their christardological thoughts and they shouldn't try and influence mine. If they do, there are consequences.
Keep christardology away from me and there'll be no issues. Drag it into the public domain and sparks will fly. Simples, no?
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01-24-2018, 01:10 PM
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#2983
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Disappointment
Christards are a disappointment to me. They have nothing to say that's new.
It's just the same old shit regurgitated.
Android is fucking useless. His grasp of the English language is so appalling, it's embarrassing. If he feels no shame then I guess I'll have to be ashamed for him.
Although jerrypong is somewhat better, he's still a disappointment. He's been beaten in every argument he's been involved with. That said, it's not difficult to whoop his ass.
To be honest, the pair of pillocks are just plain boring. It's just sameo, sameo.
They believe in god because they are emotionally and logically immature and that's the truth. This is why, in an argument about christardology, they are fuckin' useless. They get beaten by logic every time because emotion will always lose out to logic.
jerrypong is a fuckin' liar. He's no more interested in understanding Atheists than I am in the man in the moon. He's here to disrupt and convert people to christardology.
Atheists don't believe in god because there is no proof of it's existence and so the god hypothesis is rejected. It's not rocket science jerrypong. It's just the logical application of the scientific methodology. You should try it sometime.
jerrypong, there's no heaven, hell or afterlife. This is it. Get used to it. After this, there's nothing, just like there was before you were born.
Anyways, you know what? I'm bored with jerrypong and android. Even as chew sticks they are fuckin' useless.
I'm off.
Atheists - It's been a blast. I've enjoyed using jerrypong and android as chew sticks. Thanks for loaning them out to me.
jerrypong and andriod - ffs, get a life and stop wasting your time believing in all this lard, jebus, afterlife shit. This is all there is. Enjoy it while you can.
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01-24-2018, 05:55 PM
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#2984
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Quote:
JerryJohn wrote
1. I believe the atheists that post here, generally, not all posters of course (no need to name names) believe one cannot be a logical and critical tinker if they are theist. That claim I reject.
Regards,
JJ
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With regards to their theistic beliefs, I agree with these other atheists.
There are many theists, that use excellent logic and critical thinking skills with regards to every other supernatural claim, and the existence of other gods besides, the one they believe exists. But they don't apply the same heuristic for their chosen theistic beliefs.
All I ever see, is the same flawed and fallacious philosophical arguments (teleological, cosmological, ontological, TAG, etc). And lack of demonstrable evidence for their claims.
Please, prove me wrong, and provide me with demonstrable evidence for your god, and valid and sound logic, to support your claim.
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01-24-2018, 10:25 PM
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#2985
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hertz vanrental wrote
Christards are a disappointment to me. They have nothing to say that's new.
It's just the same old shit regurgitated.
Android is fucking useless. His grasp of the English language is so appalling, it's embarrassing. If he feels no shame then I guess I'll have to be ashamed for him.
Although jerrypong is somewhat better, he's still a disappointment. He's been beaten in every argument he's been involved with. That said, it's not difficult to whoop his ass.
To be honest, the pair of pillocks are just plain boring. It's just sameo, sameo.
They believe in god because they are emotionally and logically immature and that's the truth. This is why, in an argument about christardology, they are fuckin' useless. They get beaten by logic every time because emotion will always lose out to logic.
jerrypong is a fuckin' liar. He's no more interested in understanding Atheists than I am in the man in the moon. He's here to disrupt and convert people to christardology.
Atheists don't believe in god because there is no proof of it's existence and so the god hypothesis is rejected. It's not rocket science jerrypong. It's just the logical application of the scientific methodology. You should try it sometime.
jerrypong, there's no heaven, hell or afterlife. This is it. Get used to it. After this, there's nothing, just like there was before you were born.
Anyways, you know what? I'm bored with jerrypong and android. Even as chew sticks they are fuckin' useless.
I'm off.
Atheists - It's been a blast. I've enjoyed using jerrypong and android as chew sticks. Thanks for loaning them out to me.
jerrypong and andriod - ffs, get a life and stop wasting your time believing in all this lard, jebus, afterlife shit. This is all there is. Enjoy it while you can.
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Thanks Hertzy,
You enjoy your life also. It's been a pleasure doing business with you.
JJ
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