I think most Creationists really know evolution is fact

08-28-2007, 05:39 AM

Education board opposes intelligent design in curricula

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...n.36418e1.html

Smellyoldgit · 08-28-2007, 05:56 AM

Why do the keep referring to the "Theory" of Intelligent Design?
Should it not be the "Wild Conjecture & Unsupported Claptrap" of ID?

Choobus · 08-28-2007, 07:43 AM

ID is a theory, just like Dracula or werewolves, although it's quite a bit more scary than either of those.

Philboid Studge · 08-28-2007, 08:07 AM

I think the Texas Bored of Edumacation, which has a solid block of conservative Christers headed by an ID-Creationist chairman, are embarking on a new strategy to inject jeetardism into curricula. They (and with the approval of ID HQ, the Dicovery Institute), don't want Dover Redux.

Notice McElroy says his "sole" criticism of biology textbooks is that they do not include criticisms of evolution. Note that politically charged words and phrases -- "ID" and "creationism" e.g. -- will fade from the public conversation, as Mike "I'm A Biologist!" Behe's pseudo-science insinuates its way into texts. This isn't my natural cynicism talking; this is a coordinated effort by Jeetards to rebrand Jeetardation in a way that will fool the rubes.

If you think Texas public schools aren't about to start whizzing on evolutionary biology, then I want to know the name of your drug dealer, because my weed can't compete.

Choobus · 08-28-2007, 08:09 AM

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Philboid Studge wrote

This isn't my natural cynicism talking; this is a coordinated effort by Jeetards to rebrand Jeetardation in a way that will fool the rubes.

I thought they were the rubes.

DrunkMonkey · 08-28-2007, 08:15 AM

Their next strategy is to make it cool.

How? You guessed it- Ben Stein.

http://www.expelledthemovie.com/

Philboid Studge · 08-28-2007, 08:18 AM

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Choobus wrote

I thought they were the rubes.

Right. I mean fool the rubes into believing that dinosaur-rindin' Jesus is real 'n for-true science.

(Rather than have the rubes outright deny science)

Sternwallow · 08-28-2007, 08:32 AM

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Choobus wrote

ID is a theory, just like Dracula or werewolves, although it's quite a bit more scary than either of those.

But it doesn't explain anything, especially when its supporters cagily refuse to identify God as the agent supposedly in charge. That, and its appeal to data not in evidence (the so-called irriducable complexity), is why it is not a theory.

Professor Chaos · 08-28-2007, 08:35 AM

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Sternwallow wrote

But it doesn't explain anything, especially when its supporters cagily refuse to identify God as the agent supposedly in charge. That, and its appeal to data not in evidence (the so-called irriducable complexity), is why it is not a theory.

Sternwallow · 08-28-2007, 09:02 AM

I'm a little surprised that religion has not proceeded to co-opt evolution as it has other formerly secular things like charity and compassion.

Religion almost has a legitimate claim on science since they were once joined and the purpose of science was to study nature to reveal the glory of God's creation.

They would probably start by discovering that Darwin's notion was actually a revelation from God and then they would proceed to hijack all of the good stuff from there-on.

nkb · 08-28-2007, 11:32 AM

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DrunkMonkey wrote

Their next strategy is to make it cool.

How? You guessed it- Ben Stein.

http://www.expelledthemovie.com/

Not sure if this was already posted, but did you see the story about how PZ Myers got duped?

Cheeky theist bastards!

nkb · 08-28-2007, 12:10 PM

To support what Phil is saying:

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Dallas Morning News wrote

Kathy Miller of the Texas Freedom Network, which advocates strict separation of church and state, said she doubted board members had given up their advocacy of intelligent design.
"Don McLeroy and the other ideologues who now control the state board have said repeatedly in the past that they want public school science classes to teach creationism and other religion-based concepts," Ms. Miller said. "So we have no doubt that they'll find a way to try, either by playing politics with the curriculum standards or censoring new science textbooks later on."

I was pleasantly surprised when I first saw the story, but saw that it was more of the same shit once I read it.

08-28-2007, 01:16 PM

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Sternwallow wrote

I'm a little surprised that religion has not proceeded to co-opt evolution as it has other formerly secular things like charity and compassion.

Religion almost has a legitimate claim on science since they were once joined and the purpose of science was to study nature to reveal the glory of God's creation.

They would probably start by discovering that Darwin's notion was actually a revelation from God and then they would proceed to hijack all of the good stuff from there-on.

And lose a Satan to their God? I doubt it.

08-28-2007, 02:38 PM

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Sternwallow wrote

I'm a little surprised that religion has not proceeded to co-opt evolution as it has other formerly secular things like charity and compassion.

Religion almost has a legitimate claim on science since they were once joined and the purpose of science was to study nature to reveal the glory of God's creation.

They would probably start by discovering that Darwin's notion was actually a revelation from God and then they would proceed to hijack all of the good stuff from there-on.

The problem is that evolution brings with it ideas contrary to the teachings of monotheistic religion. Christians, Muslims and Jews believe that humans are the pinnacle of God's creation. The universe, the world and all its creatures were created for our enjoyment. According to evolution, humans came to be by the same process that produced dung beetles, HIV and vultures. They are just a small part of a huge scheme, in which they are actually quite insignificant. Religion plays to man's ego and is the champion of false promises, many of which evolution calls into question.