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12-02-2007, 10:47 PM
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The Iraqi War
Do you guys think the Iraqi war happened for religious reasons or economic ones?
I personally believe that its for religious reasons. |
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12-03-2007, 04:59 AM
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What?
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12-03-2007, 05:13 AM
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well, muss, me thinks you are wrong.
however, before letting the dogs out, i will allow you to explain why you hold such position. One of the most irrational of all the conventions of modern society is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected....That they should have this immunity is an outrage. There is nothing in religious ideas, as a class, to lift them above other ideas. On the contrary, they are always dubious and often quite silly. H. L. Mencken |
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12-03-2007, 12:37 PM
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Guess it depends on how you want to look at it. I think the answer is mostly economic - on our side anyway. Seems like you could argue that belief in words like liberty and freedom have consequences. One problem I see is that as the U.S. seeks to do business with the world it finds itself operating under some rather distasteful circumstances. This creates some conflict so we bring along our morality to try to sort it out. Doesn’t seem like the right approach. Whatchu thinking?
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12-03-2007, 12:40 PM
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Phooey! Christianity is what they feed the masses while they line their pockets!
Their wealth is my proof. Where is your proof? Who me that Bush has any integrity what so ever. Never give a zombie girl a piggy back ride. |
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12-03-2007, 12:45 PM
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Stop keeping us in such suspense, muss. Please tell us what these religious reasons are.
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12-03-2007, 12:53 PM
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Isn't it obvious that the Iraq war was started so that Bush could pump billions and billions of dollars into Blackwater (which is run by a serious christ puncher) and hallburton in preperation for the christian revolution, which will happen after the US military has been depleted to the point where blackwater can actually take over the country, finally making the US the christian theocracy that King George has always dreamed of?
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12-03-2007, 12:53 PM
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"So many gods, so many creeds! So many paths that wind and wind, when just the art of being kind is all this sad world needs." --Ella Wheeler Wilcox |
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12-03-2007, 12:55 PM
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12-03-2007, 01:04 PM
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12-03-2007, 01:43 PM
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err - the moral justification for the war. You know fight evil terrorists, fight for freedom and liberation, etc. This is what I assume muss is talking about when he says it is more religious. It doesn't matter if you think this is a moral position or not - what matters is that the collective WE see it as the moral position. Even then when I say WE I only mean enough of us. These ideas are not christian, per say, but they are beleifs. These beleifs, whether you agree with them or not, are attached to us. So yes, OUR morality is mixed up in it. Bush couldn't do shit without the rest of us being involved at some point in the process. Anyway - the economics involved are pretty profound even without the flag waiving. I would love to be energy independant...
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12-03-2007, 01:45 PM
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12-03-2007, 01:59 PM
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The official reason for invading Iraq was that we had "slam-dunk" proof that they had WMDs.
Only in the attempted re-writing of history after we failed to find any evidence of WMDs have the terrorist-fighting or the liberation of Iraqis reasons been used. Prior to the invasion, there was no credible evidence for any ties between al-Qaida and Hussein. "The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." George Bernard Shaw |
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12-03-2007, 03:16 PM
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yawn. Who cares about the official reasons. There are many reasons why things have played out the way they have. The only way forward is to concentrate on changing policy otherwise these wars are going to continue.
Now, what about those religious reasons??? |
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12-03-2007, 03:43 PM
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