Old 09-16-2008, 07:44 AM   #1
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A Look At Sarah Palin

Unfortunately, we, as a collective know very little about Sarah Palin [Born Sarah Louise Heath]. She came out swinging at the Republican Convention and Americanís were awed, or in some cases simply speechless. For those in the know, they realized early into that speech that it was the work of Matthew Scully [Matthew Scully served until August 2004 as special assistant to the president and deputy director of presidential speechwriting. He worked for President George W. Bush a total of five years, including 18 months in the 2000 campaign, and was part of the team that drafted the Presidentís post-September 11th addresses and every major speech of the first term. Scully has also written for vice presidents Dick Cheney and Dan Quayle, presidential candidate Robert Dole, Arizona Governor Fife Symington, and the late Pennsylvania Gov. Robert P. Casey.]

She may, or may not have known what she was speaking about, but I cannot imagine that anyone would say that she is NOT a FANTASTIC public speaker! She has charisma, she is excellent at portraying eye contact with a crowd; she has all of the basics one would learn in a public speaking class, down pat. [Donít forget, she also has the beauty pageant wave down to an exact.] What do we really know about Sarah Palin?

We can track Palinís recent activity: In 2006, just two years ago, Palin made history when she was the first woman to be elected as Alaskaís Governor. Prior to this Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla. Born in Sandpoint, ID on February 11, 1964, she would move to Alaska with her family later that same year. She graduated from Wasilla High School in 1982 and received a Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987. Her list of civic organization membership is impressive: Member, Alaska Miners Association: Member, Alaska Outdoor Council [group works through advocacy, education and research to promote responsible outdoor recreation, conserve natural resources, and protect Alaskansí rights to enjoy our great outdoors.] Member, Alaska Resource Development Council [a statewide, non-profit, membership-funded organization made up of businesses and individuals from all resource sectors (oil and gas, mining, fishing, timber, and tourism), as well as Native corporations, support sectors, labor unions, and local governments. Through RDC these interests work together to promote and support responsible development of Alaska's resources]: Member, Chambers of Commerce (Various) [The Voice of Alaska Business]: Member, Iditarod Parent-Teacher Association: Member, National Rifle Association; Member, Valley Hospital Association Board [Valley Hospital Association, Inc. v. Mat-Su Coalition for Choice (11/21/97)]: Coach/Hockey Team Manager, Valley Youth Sports; Member, Youth Court Steering Committee [The Mat-Su Youth Court (MSYC) is a state-sanctioned court that operates in the Matanuska-Susitna Valley, Alaska, which deals with first-time juvenile offenders that have committed misdemeanors.]: Former Member, American Management Association and Former Member, Salvation Army Board. IíM IMPRESSED, WHAT ABOUT YOU?

Sarah Palin is a Non-Denominational Protestant in other words; Assembly of God whose beliefs include: the scriptures are inspired by God; there is only one true God; the Deity of Jesus; man willingly fell to sin; the salvation of man; water baptism; baptism in the Holy Spirit; speaking in tongues; sanctification; the Church has a mission; Divinely called and scripturally ordained leadership; divine healing of the sick; the blessed hope; the millennium reign of Christ; a final judgment will take place and there will be a NEW heaven and a NEW earth.

SoÖ. Letís take a look at Palinís religious beliefs in regard to her nomination as Vice President of the United States: Hopefully, it means nothing but hearing Palin speak I am worried that she may believe she has been divinely called and her Vice-Presidency is a Mission of the Church? [Just joking, I hope]

Anyway, the real question here is does any of Sarah Palinís background offer her abilities above others to accept the role of Vice-President? That is one thing that Americanís will have to decide for themselves come Election Day. The REAL QUESTION here should be; Is America ready for Sarah Palinís Presidency? We must all take into account that John McCain is 72 years old and his true health record has never been released to the voters. Religion and politics should not be mixed, but I hear Governor Palin speak of Godís will almost daily and it truly frightens me. If this election is truly Godís Will, then hopefully God will assure that the winner will have less to do with religion and more to do with American policy.
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:54 AM   #2
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Two questions from a distance:

1) She's anti-abortion but pro gun. Does she think it's ok to kill people but only after they've been born?

2) The father of her teenage daughter's child-to-be is a self-proclaimed 'fucking redneck' who 'live(s) to play hockey ... go camping and hang out with the boys (and) do some fishing'. He also warns that if anyone messes with him, 'I'll kick ass.'
Why is this seen as a potential embarrassment to the party that has twice overseen the 'election' of George W Bush?

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Old 09-16-2008, 08:17 AM   #3
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Two questions from a distance:

1) She's anti-abortion but pro gun. Does she think it's ok to kill people but only after they've been born?
Don't forget, she is also an abstinence only advocate when it comes to sex education. Wouldn't you think that a pregnant daughter would make her realize that maybe these programs really do not work?
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:55 AM   #4
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Don't forget, she is also an abstinence only advocate when it comes to sex education. Wouldn't you think that a pregnant daughter would make her realize that maybe these programs really do not work?
Yes, this ignorant Christ-psychosis infected imbecile belongs in a mental institution along retarded shot-down-Prisoner ( NOT a HERO ) McCain. The problem is that 82% of Americans are infected with Christ-psychosis which stagnates the intellect making them ignorant.
I made a video exposing this Alaska "End Of Days" retard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnFHL827XP0

Christians and other folks infected with delusional beliefs think and reason like schizophrenics or temporal lobe epileptics. Their morality is dictated by an invisible friend called Jesus.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:03 AM   #5
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. . . shot-down-Prisoner ( NOT a HERO ) McCain. . .
So you mean to say that when he said in defence of his proposed Iraq strategy, 'I know how to win a war', he WASN'T speaking as the guy who secured the US victory in Vietnam?

Wow. We live and learn.

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Old 09-16-2008, 11:31 AM   #6
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Don't forget, she is also an abstinence only advocate when it comes to sex education. Wouldn't you think that a pregnant daughter would make her realize that maybe these programs really do not work?
I love the irony of that!
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:52 AM   #7
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Well, she pushes abstinence-only education for schools, but she is pro-contraception (just not for kids, I guess).

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Old 09-16-2008, 09:10 AM   #8
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Don't forget, she is also an abstinence only advocate when it comes to sex education. Wouldn't you think that a pregnant daughter would make her realize that maybe these programs really do not work?
I'm pretty sure it wasn't abstinence that failed. Abstinence works 100% of the time.

As far as speaking of God daily, so do untold millions of Americans. You will never scare anyone with that line beyond the scaredy-cats here and in similar venues.

And what is with bringing her speech writer up continually (I don't mean you, personally, I see it in each and every article written about her)? Those in the know know that all politicians use speechwriters, each and every one of them, each and every time they speak. Lincoln may well have been the last president to write his own speeches.

So far, I am not shivering in my boots.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:52 AM   #9
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I'm pretty sure it wasn't abstinence that failed. Abstinence works 100% of the time.

As far as speaking of God daily, so do untold millions of Americans. You will never scare anyone with that line beyond the scaredy-cats here and in similar venues.

And what is with bringing her speech writer up continually (I don't mean you, personally, I see it in each and every article written about her)? Those in the know know that all politicians use speechwriters, each and every one of them, each and every time they speak. Lincoln may well have been the last president to write his own speeches.

So far, I am not shivering in my boots.
But Palin's daughter failed (refused?) to abstain, didn't she? Lots of teenagers do, you know. Bristol Palin is Exhibit A.

And I think it's hysterically hypocritical of you to tag anyone as being "a scaredy-cat" for being unnerved by untold millions of people talking daily to a god who isn't there. Aren't you unnerved by the untold millions of Muslims speaking to their god, in whom you do not believe? Isn't the fact that they take their beliefs and prophecies so seriously the reason why Sarah Palin wants to wipe the extremists among them from the face of the earth?

If these Evangelicals should finally get their way, don't think you're going to be among their bestest pals. They don't like you Roman Catholics anymore than they like any outsiders. You guys are not even real Christians, as far as they are concerned. You should know this. You were a part of that pack for a while. Of course, you could always switch teams again.

And the point about bringing up Palin's speechwriters is to remind folks that, for all her alleged gifts as a public speaker, Palin's public blather is scripted, and scripted by a man who has done copious work for the administration both Palin and McCain are trying to run away from whenever it's convenient.

Anyway, when we got a chance to see Palin speak extemporaneously-- though coached to the hilt-- it was clear that she wasn't nearly as informed on foreign policy as she needs to be.

Of course you're not shivering in your boots. You think you've died and gone to heaven. Don't know when the rude awakening will hit ya, but if you're alive in this realm for it, it oughta be a doozy.

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Old 09-16-2008, 09:56 AM   #10
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But Palin's daughter failed (refused?) to abstain, didn't she? Lots of teenagers do, you know. Bristol Palin is Exhibit A.

And I think it's hysterically hypocritical of you to tag anyone as being "a scaredy-cat" for being unnerved by untold millions of people talking daily to a god who isn't there. Aren't you unnerved by the untold millions of Muslims speaking to their god, in whom you do not believe? Isn't the fact that [/b]they[/b] take their beliefs and prophecies so seriously the reason why Sarah Palin wants to wipe the extremists among them from the face of the earth?

If these Evangelicals should finally get their way, don't think you're going to be among their bestest pals. They don't like you Roman Catholics anymore than they like any outsiders. You guys are not even real Christians, as far as they are concerned. You should know this. You were a part of that pack for a while. Of course, you could always switch teams again.

And the point about bringing up Palin's speechwriters is to remind folks that, for all her alleged gifts as a public speaker, Palin's public blather is scripted, and scripted by a man who has done copious work for the administration both Palin and McCain are trying to run away from whenever it's convenient.

Anyway, when we got a chance to see Palin speak extemporaneously-- though coached to the hilt-- it was clear that she wasn't nearly as informed foreign policy as she needs to be.

Of course you're not shivering in your boots. You think you've died and gone to heaven. Don't know when the rude awakening will hit ya, but if you're alive in this realm for it, it oughta be a doozy.
This is mostly hysterical nonsense and I can't be bothered to refute it. But I am intrigued to know when you have seen or heard Palin speak extemporaneously. You can't mean that hatchet job that Gibson did, since the unedited interview is available online and shows him and the network up as partisan hacks. So do tell. When have you see or heard her speak?
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This is mostly hysterical nonsense and I can't be bothered to refute it. But I am intrigued to know when you have seen or heard Palin speak extemporaneously. You can't mean that hatchet job that Gibson did, since the unedited interview is available online and shows him and the network up as partisan hacks. So do tell. When have you see or heard her speak?
Hysterical nonsense, my ass.

You won't refute what I posted because you can't. Plain and simple. For all your pretense at valuing education, you are no more sophisticated than the average Fox News devotee, perpetually blinded by your fears and prejudices. You have amply proven that throughout this forum and most stunningly in the Merkins thread.

Face it, you have not one shred of credibility.

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Old 09-16-2008, 03:03 PM   #12
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Abstinence works 100% of the time.
Lily, you know this from personal experience?

First of all, abstinence is only relevant to marriage status, which has nothing to do with age. If a 12 year old wants to have sex, no fucking way, hellbound. If she gets married in Kansas, however, then she can have sex, and God's alright with it. Call me nuts, but this strikes me as a weird set of morals. That marriage should decide a person's sexual tendencies is a tall order indeed . . . preposterous and arcane to say the least, and directed at women most of all.

Which leads us to the obvious question of whether or not abstinence-teaching is even worth looking at. It's basically the most naive form of sex-ed you can get. A self-induced dry-spell is what these kids should go for, instead of indulging curiosities and urges they can't control. Worse, it teaches masturbation is bad bad bad (and why is that again? Emotionally and physically it's risk free, right? Is it because it feels good and therefore must be nefarious?), it also teaches that condoms and birth control and even withdrawal don't work. They tout Plan B as abortion in disguise, despite the fact that sperm takes several days to get to the egg. They even teach that condoms cause cancer (?).

80% of these programs are falsified. Come on, people. Grow up already.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:24 AM   #13
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It's sexist to look at the Gorilla from Wasilla.

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I'm pretty sure it wasn't abstinence that failed.
Have I missed something? Who said abstinence failed? Rev Linda's actual words were "...these programs really do not work." Surely even you can see that on this particular occasion, advocating abstinence was something of a failure?

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Old 09-16-2008, 09:28 AM   #14
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abstinence works, except when you don't abstain and don't know how else to have safe sex.

One of the most irrational of all the conventions of modern society is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected....That they should have this immunity is an outrage. There is nothing in religious ideas, as a class, to lift them above other ideas. On the contrary, they are always dubious and often quite silly.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:41 AM   #15
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abstinence works, except when you don't abstain and don't know how else to have safe sex.
The notion that there is any 17 year old in this country that doesn't know how to have "safe sex" is preposterous. Can you really believe that neither one of the two in question here knows about condoms and all the rest? Seriously, you all have got to get past this positively antiquated notion that teenagers don't know how to avoid pregnancy. They do. The question you have to ask is why they don't do what adults and the surrounding culture have been pounding into them since the day they were born.

It is a question with very interesting answers.
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