11-21-2011, 03:08 PM
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Argument for God's Existence
God is the monistic entity of fundamental consciousness.
Definition of terms:
"is" means "="
"the" denotes a singular God and no possibility of multiple fundamental consciousnesses
"monistic" means that the only real thing is fundamental consciousness and all things are of that substance and modalities of its attributes.
"Entity" means that existence is an inherent attribute of the fundamental consciousness.
"of" means that God's substance is fundamental consciousness and that he is not a being created by fundamental consciousness.
"Fundamental" means pre-existent to the universe. Everything derives its being from it.
"Consciousness" Self-awareness and volition.
The Argument:
This being the case we would expect to find that consciousness is not confined to the workings of the central nervous system. We would find that the universe has order in it. There would be intermittent precognitive and extra sensory events in most people's lives at some time. We would consider compassion towards one another and toward animal life to be the highest moral good, and the more fundamental the sub-atomic particle, the more it would be affected and come to resemble mind rather than matter. Evolution would have an intended direction, and there would be methods of experiencing fundamental consciousness via our own consciousness. We find all of this to be the case in our universe. Therefore, God exists.
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11-21-2011, 04:30 PM
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One of the most irrational of all the conventions of modern society is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected....That they should have this immunity is an outrage. There is nothing in religious ideas, as a class, to lift them above other ideas. On the contrary, they are always dubious and often quite silly.
H. L. Mencken
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11-21-2011, 04:39 PM
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Stop the Holy See men!
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11-21-2011, 04:50 PM
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11-21-2011, 04:56 PM
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11-21-2011, 04:59 PM
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"I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death."
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
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11-21-2011, 05:06 PM
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Stop the Holy See men!
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11-21-2011, 05:32 PM
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"I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death."
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
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11-21-2011, 05:42 PM
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11-21-2011, 05:52 PM
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Egor, we need more data before we reach any conclusions. First and foremost how many women have you slept with so far?
Never give a zombie girl a piggy back ride.
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11-21-2011, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
ubs wrote
Egor, we need more data before we reach any conclusions. First and foremost how many women have you slept with so far?
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Have you seen a picture of me when I was a young American Yank living in England during the eighties?
Be that as it may. I've been married to my current wife for 18 years, and I wouldn't so much as dishonor her by even flirting with another woman. After all, God probably loves her more than me, and I'm shit scared of God, so...
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11-21-2011, 09:49 PM
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Okay, egor.
You've laid out your points of what you seem to believe is your "a game".
Now, you've asked us if we would admit a god exists if you can prove it. Now i ask you. If your "proof" can be shown to be false by us, will you admit your god doesn't exist? Or will you be as stubborn, rigid and in denial as you accused us of being?
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11-21-2011, 10:32 PM
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Quote:
Michael wrote
Okay, egor.
You've laid out your points of what you seem to believe is your "a game".
Now, you've asked us if we would admit a god exists if you can prove it. Now i ask you. If your "proof" can be shown to be false by us, will you admit your god doesn't exist?
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Well, of course. But saying, "You can't prove it." is not proof against it. Right? Maybe I'll convince you that God exists; maybe I won't. Not making you believe is not proof that God does not exist.
Keep in mind, this is an exercise for the most part. I no longer believe an atheist will ever believe, no matter what they see. They might see demons, burning bushes, dead people walking, and seas parting, and all that would do is send them to the mental hospital. They still wouldn't believe.
To speak without thinking is to shoot without aiming.
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11-21-2011, 06:31 PM
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........................That were conscious?
Once you are dead, you are nothing. Graffito, Pompeii
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11-21-2011, 06:36 PM
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....and the same species?
Man, where to start? There is so much wrong here.
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