"God" is not Omnipotent - Page 2

just questions · 03-16-2009, 07:00 AM

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Xans wrote

God isn't "omnipotent" in the Greek philosophical sense of the word. Many rightly accept this fact and reject the Greek philosophical interpretation of "omnipotence". Greek philosophy has given us some good stuff but it's views on God are stupid.

If your god is not omnipotent in the Greek way

, in which way do you want your god "omnipotent" then?

just questions · 03-16-2009, 07:07 AM

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Xans wrote

Actually, God can surprise himself, can change his mind, and exhibit humility. The only thing God can't do is do the illogical.

We all knew your god surprised himself very often.
He found out he had an asshole when he touched himself around his back to model Adam, to name one.
If it is logical to force Adam and Noah to commit incest, than we can understand all the christians are meant to be retarded.

just questions · 03-16-2009, 07:13 AM

Next he will argue that Mary was not a virgin in the Greek sense either.

Philboid Studge · 03-16-2009, 07:19 AM

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just questions wrote

Next he will argue that Mary was not a virgin in the Greek sense either.

Did she do anal?

just questions · 03-16-2009, 07:20 AM

Or oral.

Sternwallow · 03-16-2009, 09:44 AM

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Xans wrote

Actually, God can surprise himself, can change his mind, and exhibit humility. The only thing God can't do is do the illogical.

And is the universe finite?

It is illogical for God to be able to change a perfect plan, that is, to change His mind. It is illogical for God not to know every detail of a plan that He made, that is, to surprise Himself.

Only by acknowledging something higher than Himself, an impossibility, could God be humble. One cannot logically be humble to one's self.

According to Hawking the universe is almost certainly finite, but unbounded. If so, its radius would be approximately 14 Billion years and growing, I think.

There have been reports that God was mistaken, surprised, ignorant and regretful, along with that other list of personality flaws (jealousy, hatred, greed, evil etc.), all of them directly from the Bible. They must be incorrect else why worship rather than revile such a petty, puny, paltry god?

Irreligious · 03-16-2009, 11:31 AM

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Sternwallow wrote

There have been reports that God was mistaken, surprised, ignorant and regretful, along with that other list of personality flaws (jealousy, hatred, greed, evil etc.), all of them directly from the Bible. They must be incorrect else why worship rather than revile such a petty, puny, paltry god?

Because Xans says so.

After all, it's Xans' personal vanity that must be placated here. Xans doesn't have to make sense. He's above all that nonsense. After all, Xans has access to an unverifiable realm where up is down and down is up when it's convenient.

It's all about the Xans, baby.

Sternwallow · 03-16-2009, 12:12 PM

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Irreligious wrote

Because Xans says so.

After all, it's Xans' personal vanity that must be placated here. Xans doesn't have to make sense. He's above all that nonsense. After all, Xans has access to an unverifiable realm where up is down and down is up when it's convenient.

It's all about the Xans, baby.

Yup, it is all up to him.

Xans · 03-17-2009, 06:00 AM

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just questions wrote

If your god is not omnipotent in the Greek way

, in which way do you want your god "omnipotent" then?

The way he was actually written to be.

Xans · 03-17-2009, 06:03 AM

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just questions wrote

Next he will argue that Mary was not a virgin in the Greek sense either.

Well, she wasn't a virgin her whole life.

Choobus · 03-17-2009, 10:30 AM

Her hole life began the day she lost her virginity

Choobus · 03-17-2009, 12:50 PM

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Xans wrote

Greek philosophy has given us some good stuff but it's views on God are stupid.

Yeah, not like the three-in-one man-fart-ghostgod who gets annoyed when dodgy snakes trick rib-ladies into eating forbidden anti-ignorance apples that he left right in their garden, and so he sends his son (who is also himself) to get crucified in order to prevent him (who is also his son) from sending humanity to burn in hell because he doesn't really want to have to do that but would otherwise have to for some reason. That's not stupid at all.

nkb · 03-17-2009, 01:22 PM

When you say it that way, it doesn't sound stupid at all.

calpurnpiso · 03-17-2009, 06:57 PM

Xans wrote:

"Greek philosophy has given us some good stuff but it's views on God are stupid."

Belief in god, a delusion inducing psychosis, is in itself stupid and a form of neurological turpitude.

Tenspace · 03-17-2009, 07:41 PM

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Choobus wrote

Yeah, not like the three-in-one man-fart-ghostgod who gets annoyed when dodgy snakes trick rib-ladies into eating forbidden anti-ignorance apples that he left right in their garden, and so he sends his son (who is also himself) to get crucified in order to prevent him (who is also his son) from sending humanity to burn in hell because he doesn't really want to have to do that but would otherwise have to for some reason. That's not stupid at all.

Sounds logical. Where do I sign up?