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Old 06-23-2018, 07:22 AM   #91
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I worship energy
Well, we finally got there.
Thank you for this deeply profound revelation.
I shall keep an eye out for Jouleism on the international religion listings.

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Old 06-23-2018, 09:29 PM   #92
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we might as well worship energy together

do you have paltalk?

we could go on paltalk and share our faith in energy, when you teach it, you learn much faster


you could also help me do research in biological immortality and soliton engineering
... and fairies at the bottom of the garden. That would be neat.

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Old 06-24-2018, 05:26 AM   #93
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conservation of energy; energy is eternal

mass energy equivalence; energy is immanent

zero point energy; energy is transcendent and infinite

power integral to energy; the eternal, immanent, transcendent, and infinite energy is inherently all-power-full

I worship energy

definition of energy, a substance that everything is made of, that has always existed everywhere
According to one theory, energy has not always existed and, in effect, an energy deficit exists from which our universe was created. The deficit will only correct itself when our universe ends. This implies that energy is not eternal.

Your equations do not imply that energy is infinite nor do they imply that ienergy is eternal.

Also, what the fuck does 'I worship energy' even mean?

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Old 06-24-2018, 09:38 AM   #94
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I'd rather get more information here before I set up a Paltalk account. That way, the others can learn about it, too.

Can you explain a little more what you mean by "worship"? In what ways do you venerate matter and energy? Do you pray to it? Or maybe just demonstrate adoration for it? In what ways?

(I looked at/thought about the word "worship" too long and now it looks weird. Just gonna go down to the garden to pick some turnips and worships.)
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Old 06-24-2018, 01:02 PM   #95
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According to one theory, energy has not always existed and, in effect, an energy deficit exists from which our universe was created. The deficit will only correct itself when our universe ends. This implies that energy is not eternal.
can you cite your theory, I bet you are misunderstanding what it says

by the way a theory does not refute a scientific fact; you would have to prove that energy can be created and destroyed.

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Your equations do not imply that energy is infinite
zero point energy says that there is an amount of energy in every point in space.... so any volume of space contains infinite energy

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nor do they imply that ienergy is eternal.
it cannot be created and cannot be destroyed, yet it exists
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Old 06-24-2018, 01:11 PM   #96
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I'd rather get more information here before I set up a Paltalk account. That way, the others can learn about it, too.
good idea

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Can you explain a little more what you mean by "worship"? In what ways do you venerate matter and energy? Do you pray to it? Or maybe just demonstrate adoration for it? In what ways?

(I looked at/thought about the word "worship" too long and now it looks weird. Just gonna go down to the garden to pick some turnips and worships.)

reverence, optimisim, admiration, ecstacy, amazement, adoration, vigilance, appreciation

trust, acceptance, interest, surprise, attention, anticipation, joy, serenity.
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Old 06-24-2018, 01:58 PM   #97
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can you cite your theory, I bet you are misunderstanding what it says
Go do your own research.

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by the way a theory does not refute a scientific fact; you would have to prove that energy can be created and destroyed.5]can you cite your theory, I bet you are misunderstanding what it says
The universe had a beginning. Before it began, space-time did not exist and therefore energy did not exist. The universe contains energy. It must therefore have been created when the universe was created.

In our universe, neither matter nor energy can be created nor destroyed. However, the point at which the universe was created is a special case and this law may not have held at that point. Likewise, the point when our universe ceases to exist may also be a special case when the conservation law may again not hold.

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zero point energy says that there is an amount of energy in every point in space.... so any volume of space contains infinite energy
Zero Point Energy DOES NOT state that there is an infinite amount of energy in a volume of space. Zero Point Energy is the lowest possible energy a quantum mechanical system may have. Further, although space is expanding, it is finite, NOT infinite. As such, the amount of energy in the universe is finite.

A full theoretical zero-point energy model does not yet exist. There is also a discrepancy between the theoretical and actual vacuum energy. This, obviously, is a major source of contention.

You quote these theories with an obvious lack of understanding. You are full of horse shit.

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Old 06-24-2018, 02:32 PM   #98
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reverence, optimisim, admiration, ecstacy, amazement, adoration, vigilance, appreciation

trust, acceptance, interest, surprise, attention, anticipation, joy, serenity.
Those are all nice words, but how is energy worship different from just living a good life and being at peace?
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:36 PM   #99
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reverence, optimisim, admiration, ecstacy, amazement, adoration, vigilance, appreciation

trust, acceptance, interest, surprise, attention, anticipation, joy, serenity.
saddo!

thank goodness he's on our side
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Old 06-24-2018, 11:20 PM   #100
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The universe had a beginning. Before it began, space-time did not exist and therefore energy did not exist. The universe contains energy. It must therefore have been created when the universe was created.

In our universe, neither matter nor energy can be created nor destroyed. However, the point at which the universe was created is a special case and this law may not have held at that point. Likewise, the point when our universe ceases to exist may also be a special case when the conservation law may again not hold.
matter can be created and destroyed


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Zero Point Energy DOES NOT state that there is an infinite amount of energy in a volume of space. Zero Point Energy is the lowest possible energy a quantum mechanical system may have. Further, although space is expanding, it is finite, NOT infinite. As such, the amount of energy in the universe is finite..
do you mean the amount of matter in the universe is finite?
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Old 06-24-2018, 11:50 PM   #101
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Those are all nice words, but how is energy worship different from just living a good life and being at peace?
we may have the luxury of living the good life and being at peace.

but much of the world doesn't


energy will look at us and wonder what we are going to do about that


is it our responsibility to take care of the world?


If you know energy, the answer is yes


the more responsibility you take the more energy will help you


its like the ethics I shared in this thread


the smarter we work for well being for all the more power we will have


power to solve problems, power to heal the world
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Old 06-25-2018, 01:02 AM   #102
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matter can be created and destroyed
NOT in our universe under the current conditions. In this case, the conservation of matter and energy laws apply. However, at the point the universe was created, they may not have.

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do you mean the amount of matter in the universe is finite?
I meant either you don't know what the hell you are talking about or that you are a liar. Either way, it's not looking too good for you.

Although the universe is large, as is the amount of mass and energy, they are NOT infinite. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Were you home schooled?

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Old 06-25-2018, 03:34 AM   #103
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This reminds me of an infamous poster on another atheist forum, Nicholas Marks. his spiel is a bit like this, Electricity, Energy is God etc. mixed in with Sunday school christianity.

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Old 06-25-2018, 07:43 AM   #104
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I believe the equation requires that it means the gradient
I guess you need to learn more then.


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did you know the = sign is literal, that both sides always equal each other
Aye, as I explained a few posts back. Can you read or not? Did you miss the question?


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ok, your probably right, but now you know, so it doesn't matter
Depends, are you going to continue making the same error? Like with your typing? Are you ever going to get somewhere from a bunch of random, poorly written equations to a point?


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the rest was all predicated on your miss use of s
"miss use" like a lady named "Use" or "misuse" like using something incorrectly? In the case of the latter, it was not predicated on me "misunderstanding" (in that I didn't misuse anything because all uses are yours), s for something else, that doesn't affect the criticisms of the rest. So I accept your ceding.

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Old 06-25-2018, 07:48 AM   #105
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if you eat tree fruit, it doesn't kill anything
Fruit is alive. If you eat it, you kill it.


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show me someone who doesn't want continued personal development
Here's a few thousand of them.


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