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Old 08-31-2005, 07:13 AM   #1
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The purpose of this new thread is to provide links to news articles which show how Christian morality is being forced on the general public.

Here's the first link:

Texas Abortion Doctors Could Face Death Penalty

(I do understand that not all atheists are pro-abortion, and not all Christians are anti-abortion, however, look up the information on the bill's sponsors, and you'll see the Christian tie-in. I also understand that this is a loophole, and was not intended as a means of state-sponsored doctor-killing.)

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Old 08-31-2005, 07:14 AM   #2
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Ooh, here's another one:

U.S. Blamed for Condom Shortage in Fighting AIDS in Uganda

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Old 08-31-2005, 07:17 AM   #3
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And then there's this:

Scientific Savvy? In U.S., Not Much

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Old 08-31-2005, 07:20 AM   #4
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Apparently there are more important things to spend Miami's money on than fighting violent crime:

U.S. Attorney's Porn Fight Gets Bad Reviews

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Old 08-31-2005, 07:56 AM   #5
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Sadly, this is all too familiar to me. I teach an intro level science course to science majors. The kids I see are so handicapped by public school. They are way behind the times when it comes to science. And this is their field of study! What can you do, though, when the teachers in public school often cannot differentiate between Lamarckism and Darwinian evolution? Education is obviously the key, but how can you educate when your hands are tied by the members of school boards and government officials?
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Old 08-31-2005, 07:58 AM   #6
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Sadly, this is all too familiar to me. I teach an intro level science course to science majors. The kids I see are so handicapped by public school. They are way behind the times when it comes to science. And this is their field of study! What can you do, though, when the teachers in public school often cannot differentiate between Lamarckism and Darwinian evolution? Education is obviously the key, but how can you educate when your hands are tied by the members of school boards and government officials?
You're a professor of biology? That's cool. What university?
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Old 08-31-2005, 08:19 AM   #7
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Apparently there are more important things to spend Miami's money on than fighting violent crime:

U.S. Attorney's Porn Fight Gets Bad Reviews
This is the epitome of bad leadership. I wish I could say what I want to say about him and about Pat Robertson and all the rest, but what I want to say is apparantly illegal so I'll keep my trap shut. God DAMN it.
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:04 AM   #8
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Apparently there are more important things to spend Miami's money on than fighting violent crime:

U.S. Attorney's Porn Fight Gets Bad Reviews
This is the epitome of bad leadership. I wish I could say what I want to say about him and about Pat Robertson and all the rest, but what I want to say is apparantly illegal so I'll keep my trap shut. God DAMN it.
What do you expect from a man named Acosta and an insidious neurological disorder name Christianity where delusions, stupid thinking and ravenous ignorance are de rigeur?..:)

Christians and other folks infected with delusional beliefs think and reason like schizophrenics or temporal lobe epileptics. Their morality is dictated by an invisible friend called Jesus.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:07 PM   #9
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I really don't have a whole lot of sympathy for any doctor for any reason. They epitomize and represent modern society in my eyes. THe sociey where people "need" a doctor, they "need" comfort and security.
I'd rather think it was the work of doctors that saved my wife's life, and not the work of a prayer group in Dallas. :)

My guess is that if your life, or that of a loved one was hanging by a thread, you'd change your opinion about doctors.

Or maybe you'd like to be more specific. "Doctors" is a broad category, like "scientists", or "politicians". There's all different flavors and all that.

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Old 08-31-2005, 12:11 PM   #10
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I really don't have a whole lot of sympathy for any doctor for any reason. They epitomize and represent modern society in my eyes. THe sociey where people "need" a doctor, they "need" comfort and security.

So this , to me anyways, goes way beyond aborting babies. Which is also something I don't think I'd ever do for someone

This is okay, it's not like the same thing, or as wrong, as arresting medical marajuana users, or believing in the drug war, or modern society. Doctors make people believe in modern science, which is destroying people and the environment.
No, you are wrong. Society needs doctors to HEAL WOUNDS and afflictions. When my daughter was born, she lost a full pound in 1 week. I don't know if you know ANYTHING about medicine, but that is BAD. There were only 3 doctors in the COUNTRY that were qualified to perform the surgery that was necessary on a 1 week old infant. Her intestines were formed badly during pregnancy and there was a kink and the doctor had to take them out and re-insert them so that she could get all of the nutrients out of her food...if not for this surgery, she would have died in less than a week...also, if not for medical advances, she would have died post-surgery from infection. So fuck you, my daughter has just as much a right to live as you do you fuck wad
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So if I understand you correctly, dick-wad, your sister was born choking on her umbilical cord because of society? And no baby ever died as a result of that before the advent of modern medicine and science?
I'm not sure I understand you about cowardice. Am I a coward because I wanted my daughter to live? Is it cowardice to have an emotional attachment to a living thing? If so, then you are a coward for caring about what happens to those guinnea pigs. Coward. :o Dick-wad. :D
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:26 PM   #12
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How is thinking you need something, or NEED to live, any different than someone thinking a baby "needed" to not be aborted. OR a doctor thinking his job is "necessary".

You're missing the point. THe point is your mentality and cowardice. Everybody gotta die someday. You value yourself too much, and therefore do not value others or the world properly IMO

THe whole concept of "need" is only your own concept

Your daughter does not "live" in the same sense as me anyways, but I won't get into ordinary vs. non-ordinary, or qigong health and life cultivation vs. societal lifestyle. No need. The point is the cowardly mentality

Look, my family members have needed to go to the doctor from time to time. MY sister was born being choked by the umbilical cord. HOwever, I understand that it was all because my family was raised to a degree with some cowardly societal programming, and without modern society there wouldn't have been these problems to even be thought about, and you don't need modern sciene to handle these things anyways, on top of it all.
Are you suggesting we accept illness and injury and go with the flow rather then seek treatment?
Do you have a personal guru or something? I'm interested in brainwashing techniques and it seems that who ever influenced you was surely a pro.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:31 PM   #13
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Here is a quote from a page on Edgar Cayce-
blah blah blah....
Your first problem is basing an argument on something about Edgar Cayce. I'll say no more. Except that you're a dick-wad :)
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:33 PM   #14
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Could you please just write a post and stick to it...stop editing it 4 times

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Because it's hard to understand you when your post keeps changing.

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I'm going back and forth from page one to page two trying to see what the fuck you're saying

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And it's difficult when you keep changing the post on page two

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Old 08-31-2005, 12:36 PM   #15
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My point really was, that nothing happens by accident. THere is no such thing as random in human society. THere are underlying reasons for certain interactions. THere is a reason you meet certain people and not others. THere is a reason things happen.
The only reason is chaos...Things don't always happen for a reason. Things don't usually happen for a reason...they just happen.
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